Nintendo Needs To Reboot Mario and Luigi

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Mr.Mattress

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theultimateend said:
Mario 64 without loading screens would be boss.
Mario 64 without loading screens IS Mario 64... Both the original and the DS Version...

OT: No way. Mario does not need rebooting. It's not like the Looney Tunes, where it was acceptable to do stuff like that back in the day, but now you can't, so you have to make it a modern sitcom that only hints at it's past. Mario is timeless really. And people should want to keep it that way. Adding story, or making it grimmer, or explaining everything, would not make it timeless, and then you would need to keep adding and removing stuff, like the Looney Tunes.
 

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I would totally play a Mario game where you play as Peach and she has to stop Bowser's...I don't know, dad, I guess? Anyway, the point is, Peach somehow makes it to the Mushroom Kingdom, doesn't like that the Toads are being treated like slaves/dirt/basically horrible, and decides to do something about it. Finally, at the end, the Toads make her their Princess and she founds the Mushroom Kingdom. I'd play a game like that.
 

schwitz

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I think the last paragraph gave me an idea, why not reboot Peach?
Start her off in New York or Brooklyn or wherever then she gets transported to the Mushroom Kingdom somehow to find it ruled by Bowser, enslaving all of those in the land. Peach goes on a mad 'free the slaves, kill everything else' spree and eventually unseats Bowser to take control of Mushroom Kingdom. It wouldn't even have to be gritty or anything (awesome if it was though) the story enough would be enough to get the ball rolling.

Final cut scene-
Peach sitting atop her throne with Bowser no longer in power. CUTS TO Mario and Luigi in Brooklyn fixing a pipe when they discover the warp pipe. CUTS BACK TO Bowser storming the castle and peach fighting them off until she gets pinned down and captured. Enter, the Mario Brothers.
Reboot Complete.
 

Carlston

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Reboot what? There is no story.

Lord the only thing you can reboot is the Princesses name back to Toadstool from Peach when they did what with Mario Sunshine.

Other than that, what can be rebooted? Every game is it's own mushroom trip...
 

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I don't know if a reboot is necessary, but a game focused on the actual characters of Mario and Luigi, their relationship with Bowser and Peach could be a great or at the very least an interesting one. After all, Nintendo is a very big company with a lot of experience and trying something new with their franchises might be for invariably the better and- Excuse me for a second.

*picks up cellphone* Yeah?
...They did?
...What's it called then?
...Oh. [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6f/Metroid_Other_M_Cover.jpg/250px-Metroid_Other_M_Cover.jpg]
Oh my god.

No. I'm sorry, I'd rather let Mario curl up and die as a franchise than letting that happening again to ANYTHING. It's like franchise colchisine.
 

Dak_N_Jaxter

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Great intro. I always kinda like that movie too.
Anyway, I guess you could reboot Mario (it'd be interesting at the very least), but I don't think it'll happen.
It'd be like rebooting Winnie the Pooh.
 

theultimateend

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Mr.Mattress said:
theultimateend said:
Mario 64 without loading screens would be boss.
Mario 64 without loading screens IS Mario 64... Both the original and the DS Version...

OT: No way. Mario does not need rebooting. It's not like the Looney Tunes, where it was acceptable to do stuff like that back in the day, but now you can't, so you have to make it a modern sitcom that only hints at it's past. Mario is timeless really. And people should want to keep it that way. Adding story, or making it grimmer, or explaining everything, would not make it timeless, and then you would need to keep adding and removing stuff, like the Looney Tunes.
I'm sorry, I guess I didn't use the right word. I thought it was obvious.

Mario 64 without instanced maps...
 

GeneralFungi

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I don't believe the plumber could really use a reboot. The 2D Mario games already focus too much on going 'back to basics', and any way you could change the universe with a reboot would only serve to distract people from what made Mario games special; their creative level design and wholesome (yet hilarious) sense of humor. Any dramatic change to Mario's universe would probably be better received as an entirely new IP rather then hijacking a successful and popular series.

With that being said, I really hope Nintendo's next announced installment to the 3D platformer side of the Mario series gets something out to really excite me. While the 2D games are fun yet uninspired, the 3D platformers never fail to impress me and capture my imagination. With the possible exception of Mario 3D land. Nintendo just needs to let loose with Mario and stop restraining him with tradition and nostalgia.

Eventually this generation of classic Mario players will pass and there won't be much about Mario that really leaves an impression on today's youth. I love Mario and I don't like to have to say it, but this business model will only sustain itself for so long without Nintendo putting some serious effort into stirring things up and giving us a memorable experience. Without it I'm not sure if Mario can really survive for another 10 years.
 

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firmicute said:
and maybe peach could be more that an object to get`?

maybe peach could save them? or even change roles and peach and bowser are the heroes...
i mean, if you reboot it, you could make her the leading role and that would rock hard.^^
peach is riding the yosho-mobile and batteling two madmen who became greedy as they gained powers. she gets help by one old man, called b. owser.
They had a game like that, Super Princess Peach for the DS. Didn't do too hot, but some form of reboot is definitely needed from the dead cow.
 

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Mario is the gaming Mickey Mouse, he's an icon. If he were to change to look different for a 'reboot' it'd cause a negative reaction from people and what would it gain them? A few people who'd ***** about how pathetic it is, a bunch of people annoyed that it changed and a few people enjoying it, but outnumbered by those who didn't.

Mario was born in the area of games appealing to a younger audience and an audience who enjoyed fantasy. He doesn't belong in the disgusting gaming market of today where realism is the way of making a 'good' game.
 

Asuka Soryu

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The Towel Boy said:
firmicute said:
and maybe peach could be more that an object to get`?

maybe peach could save them? or even change roles and peach and bowser are the heroes...
i mean, if you reboot it, you could make her the leading role and that would rock hard.^^
peach is riding the yosho-mobile and batteling two madmen who became greedy as they gained powers. she gets help by one old man, called b. owser.
They had a game like that, Super Princess Peach for the DS. Didn't do too hot, but some form of reboot is definitely needed from the dead cow.
I highly doubt you can call it a dead cow when it still rakes in cash for Nintendo.
 

lord.jeff

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How do you reboot a series that changes genre on a whim and has no connecting stories?
 

Arnoxthe1

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that's....impossible. Mario doesn't really HAVE a continuity, explaining stuff ABOUT Mario, Peach, and the Mushroom Kingdom would be stupid (in the same vein of trying to make elaborate backstories about Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, or Donald Duck), and an image change would be even MORE stupid. There's no reason for a reboot. Heck, the only Nintendo series I think even has a POSSIBILITY of a reboot is Metroid because that series is dependent on it being the life story of its ONE protagonist whose lifespan is finite.
This. Except for the part that almost all the Nintendo series' didn't need a reboot. I'm still waiting for Nintendo to do Twilight Princess: Non Half-Assed Edition
 

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I guess if you really think it'd bring back those who "shouldered" mario. I like Marios platforming. In truth, its getting to be my only real platforming need-filler. We used to have sonic and megaman beating down the door, delivering excellent playthroughs over and over, and then crash bandicoot would come crashing in with his silliness,and Blinx the cat would stop time enough for me to actually consider the xbox from microsoft housing some really quality platform titles...But alas. mario is all i have left. The blue bomber and the blue blur are slowly gone. Please guys, dont take away the plumber too. Hes all i got ;_;
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
I don't know, I think Yahtzee is familiar with MLP. He strikes me as a Fluttershy fan.
Based on a podcast I recall watching a few months ago where he was talking about Fandoms along with Bob and Jim, he made a comment about it where he still seemed to be under the impression that bronies are an "ironic fandom" pretending to like MLP, which implies he probably hasn't been paying any serious attention to them.

OT:

Actually, a Friendship is Magic style reboot might be the most useful for Mario.

Still sugary and cartoonish and kid-oriented, but with enough worldbuilding and characterizations to be more enjoyable for adults.

A grimdark epic fantasy would just be the butt of all jokes, with everyone laghing at it instead of with it. It would be exactly the kind of thing that Yahtzee imagines bronies to be, where we ironically pretend that now the Mushroom Kingdom can be taken seriously.

But if it would be only a little bit more "mature" in an elaborate way, like MLP, it could likewise actually be taken seriusly.
 

Something Amyss

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Entitled said:
Based on a podcast I recall watching a few months ago where he was talking about Fandoms along with Bob and Jim, he made a comment about it where he still seemed to be under the impression that bronies are an "ironic fandom" pretending to like MLP, which implies he probably hasn't been paying any serious attention to them.
And yet, he's calling for a darker reboot to appease the "irony" base.

Perhaps he doeth protest too much.

Nah, I'm not seriously entertaining this, nor do I really care. I actually DON'T like MLP, so it doesn't matter to me if he is or isn't.