Nintendo Puzzled Over Other M's Poor Performance

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Space Jawa

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Logan Westbrook said:
As a high-ranking Nintendo executive, Fils-Aime isn't about to openly criticize Other M to the press, regardless of his personal feelings. Any confusion that Nintendo might be experiencing is likely just the company trying to figure out what do with the franchise next.
I'm going to give Reggie the benefit of the doubt and go with this explanation. I think it's safe to assume that he has a good idea of what actually went wrong, and is only refraining from saying what he really thinks due on account of his job.
 

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Nintendo:

"Make another Metroid game, but give it crappy controls (HOLD THE CONTROLLER SIDEWAYS TO CONTROL IN 3D SPACE, THEN FLIP IT OVER TO POINT IT AT THE SCREEN WHEN YOU WANT TO SHOOT IN FIRST PERSON MODE, INSTEAD OF USING THE NUNCHUCK+WIIMOTE AND MAKING A DEDICATED BUTTON FOR FPS MODE. MAKES PERFECT SENSE.), shoddy voice acting and scriptwork, and shit all over Metroid Prime 3. But we gotta hype the hell out of it to make it seem like it's the best Metroid game ever!"

That's basically it. LOVED Metroid Prime 3. Hell, I love ALL the other Metroid games. But Other M makes me cry.
 

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I liked Other M, the gameplay wasn't horrible and it was rather fun.

But...the story...Oh my god the story. Whoever wrote it and decided Samus needed to be an emo 10 year old boy needs to be fired. I always pictured her having a stronger voice, more like Lightning from FF13. The basically destroyed one of their characters and wondered why it didn't pay off.
 

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You see Nintendo... this is what happens when you give it to developers who made Ninja Gaiden...and the Dead or Alive Series.

*sips my cup of tea*

Now you know never to do that again, but I jest, you probably will...
 

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Maybe Nintendo should think about giving the consumer what they want, which is an old school, 2D Metroid title.

Did you ever think of that Reggie?
 

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Ahlycks said:
Is it just me, or dose team ninja just like changing what the game is about and making the fanbase rage?
Team Ninja tried to start an original Metroid game and screwed up, they wanted to make THEIR game and not a fanboy's wet dream, personally I had the same experience with DOA Volleyball thinking that Team Ninja was obviously selling out with their DOA franchise.
 

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mythgraven said:
I can no longer count on an excellent IP to produce an excellent game.
Nor could you ever. IP is a brand, produced by people. It's the people you have to watch out for, always.
 

kouriichi

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Its just to much if you ask me. They just put to much together, that it felt really bogged down.

Dont get me wrong, it was fun. But it just didnt stick.
 

Macgyvercas

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Nintendo did nothing wrong, huh?

*cough*pieceofshitvoiceacting*cough*

Necromancer1991 said:
Maybe the fact that you turned Samus Aran into Bellah from twilight may have something to do with it...
OUCH! Good burn!
 

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Twilight.falls said:
I admire Nintendo for experimenting with one of their franchises, they usually stick to a formula and are very hesitant to change things up.
It's a shame Other M sold poorly, perhaps Nintendo shouldn't diverge from formula too much?
Perhaps customers just don't like change? Food for thought...
That is EXACTLY what happened. Fans claim this series as 'theirs' and anything that is different or unexpected = rage and cancellation of sales.

The story wasn't the greatest thing ever but god damn it I liked it. But most importantly, I had 'fun' playing the game and while it was short, it was a damn good ride for a Metroid game.

At least it was longer than Fusion, albeit Fusion was 'slightly' more fun.

I'm sorry but I really just wanna say 'Fuck you' to all the insanely hardcore fans who just 'totally' ruined any chance of a very narrative heavy or voice acted samus for the future. Because of people taking games way too god damn seriously, taking things out of context and not being content with any changes whatsoever, I pretty much have no hope of ever getting to have 'another' enjoyable experience like the one I had.

I'll still have fun playing a metroid game, no doubt about that, but it won't get to be like Other M ever again, all cause you guys had to go and bust a nut over your 'precious' franchise being 'ruined'.
 

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Macgyvercas said:
Nintendo did nothing wrong, huh?

*cough*pieceofshitvoiceacting*cough*
No, you can shut your mouth. You wanna hear piece of shit voice acting? Play Arc Rise Fantasia, THEN tell me that Other M had piece of shit voice acting.

Seriously, all of you who wish to call out Other M as bad because of VOICE ACTING, seriously go play Arc Rise Fantasia and then come back and say that again.

Oh wait, except you won't because then you will have truly experienced god awful voice acting.
 

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They characterized Samus as being subservient. I did not buy this game ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT. Keep in mind that I am such a Metroid fangirl, I am still strongly leaning to naming my daughter Samus, despite the fact my cat and most of my RPG character female leads are already named that.
 

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Only played it twice, since I've got no Wii of my own, but what I experienced, I actually really liked.
Except for when Samus talked.
She's another victim of horrendous dubbing.
 

AceAngel

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Samus loses here edge.
Samus becomes submissive.
Funky control between FPS and Scroller.
Certain glitch.

I was able to turn away 5 of my friends from buying this game. Told them to hold out till the game becomes a bargain pick. Sorry, Nintendo...
 

Shoggoth2588

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I would pick it up if it were on a traditional console. The biggest problem I have with my Wii is the motion controls.
 

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For me, the problem was that I felt that it's hard to shake the feeling that the traits that make a good Metroid game have been perfected already and that I can't realistically even expect someone to do better within the confines of the general outlines set for the series.

Super Metroid already offered me almost everything I ever wanted from a 2D Metroid game. I'm not sure what else I would want from a new one, certainly not more Metroid Fusion although I guess Super Metroid could've used some of that fluidity in the controls department. Metroid Prime 1 with Wii controls gave me just about everything I want from a Metroid game in 3D, or at least in first person perspective, minus some upgrades and interesting boss fights that 2 and 3 had.

I kept an open mind for Other M, I swear, but the image I got from even the most positive descriptions was that it was kind of like an even more linear Metroid Fusion with an emphasis on cinematics and the storyline. I just wasn't impressed and lost interest. It only got worse when reports of control annoyances started rolling in.

There are better things to use my money on, I decided.
 

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I would be willing to give the benefit of the by saying the poor sale could have been the attributed to word of mouth. My own grievances with the game aside, it wasn't a bad game by any means. Certain risks were made, and this is the end result. That's what I think, anyway.
 

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cursedseishi said:
Gralian said:
I haven't played through Other M myself, though i have played Super Metroid and the Metroid Prime games. I think they should characterise Samus primarily, if not entirely through her actions. I think her choosing not to kill the last baby metroid in one of the earlier games is one of the greatest expressions of her character and that's without the need for all that dialogue and cinematic effect. We don't need her whiny life story and we don't need a voice actress so dull and sedated that it sounds like she's trying to force out every single line. Grrr, i didn't need to play the game to know how annoying that was.
Exactly. They should of used Jennifer Hale again, yet I can only assume they didn't to cut even more costs from the game. The whole thing reeks of lazy design. I've seen Moviebob's statement for it, and honestly refuse to watch it more than once, as he refuses to actually examine it, pushing aside everything valid that people bring up, by blanketing it with the whole "You all just don't want her to have personality and be your misinterpreted idea of stoicism" rant.

Yahtzee, on the other hand, is completely right to me. Samus has thus far given us an idea of her personality, through her actions, and the snippets of voice work in the GBA titles.
What we got in Other M was some 2-bit work handled for a more cheese-cake fashion with little, if any care, to the script, voice work, or even logic behind the game's storyline and dropped plots.
She's striked down Ripley several times before Other M, so why break down now?
She has all her powers active, so besides being a closet masochist, why wait til one insignificant character says its fine to activate something vital to your own survival, and nothing else?
And for the love of god, did they even observe the acress for Samus when she did her lines? Or did they just throw her in the closet and left her alone, without checking how it was read? Even an untrained child could handle the voice work better.

And, because I have to bring it up every time when one refers to the game.
"What's past, is prologue"
Pure. Unadulterated. Genius. Really. Someone should let that man write a bloody novel. Oh yeah... Stephanie Myer did with Twilight, or Dan Brown with some chunks of his writing.

Even Ninja Gaiden had better writing than Other M.
alright, everyone keeps blaming the voice actress of other m, but it was all recorded at the behest of Sakamoto. he was that told her to be lifeless and dull. she was only doing as she was directed.
 

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Kyogissun said:
Macgyvercas said:
Nintendo did nothing wrong, huh?

*cough*pieceofshitvoiceacting*cough*
No, you can shut your mouth. You wanna hear piece of shit voice acting? Play Arc Rise Fantasia, THEN tell me that Other M had piece of shit voice acting.

Seriously, all of you who wish to call out Other M as bad because of VOICE ACTING, seriously go play Arc Rise Fantasia and then come back and say that again.

Oh wait, except you won't because then you will have truly experienced god awful voice acting.
I'm probably a better voice actor than the infant down the street, that doesn't mean I'm good at it. Saying something is good because it's better than something even shittier is very poor logic.