TomLikesGuitar said:
TerribleAssassin said:
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I'm not in the mood for a big argument. So let me address this with a few statements and a few questions.
Questions
1) Are you a troll?
2) How long have you actually been listening to dubstep for?
3) Do you actually have any idea about how to produce music? Besides just watching how to make Skrillex basslines in Massive?
Statements
1) 'Distorted Electro Wobble' isn't the same as a dubstep wobble. If you want a real Dubstep wobble, listen to Woo Boost by Rusko.
2) I am not a Dubstep hater. I like the old-school proper British dubstep. I like the newer off-shoot of that with artists such as James Blake and Jamie xx and quite like Brostep once it pulls itself together.
3) We were never doubting the drum patterns and the processing of the drums in dubstep. What we are saying is that Rock n Roll contains a four-to-the-floor beat. Standard house music. The fact the tempo is around 130 BPM is another clear indicator that Rock n Roll is House song.
4) There's no such thing as a noise filter, there's low-passes, high-passes, formant, band-reject, band-passes, combs, but never in my 9 years of electronica listening and 6 years on producing electronica have I encountered a noise filter.
5) Yes there is such thing as a dubstep part, listen to 'Legend of Zelda' by Zedd and tell me how that doesn't change into a Dubstep part. And yes, listen to a guitar solo in the middle of a Beethoven song and go it's the rock part, because the brain makes an automatic association. And as for Rock n Roll, after the 'Rude boy bass, mash up thee place' sample around 2:20, the drums become more syncopated and lose their consistency, the tempo is increased to 140 BPM and the high hats become more sparse and syncopated. That is quite often the ideal growing conditions for a 32 bar dubstep variation, and it works from a rock song switching in to a dance song, listen to 'The Tempest' by Pendulum for an ideal example.
6) House isn't always a minimalistic genre, hence why there is a sub-genre 'Minimalist house.' And just because there's more layers, doesn't mean that it's automatically not a genre, I wouldn't say 'Iron Heart' by Netsky isn't a Liquid Funk tune because it has more than 2 synths playing the main progression.
7) The vocals in Rock n Roll do not make it a dubstep song. If I where to get a sample of Ian McKellen over a Tech House tune, wouldn't make it instantly Hardstyle.
8) I'm quite certain techno artists know a 4-to-the-floor beat when they hear one.
Good day sir.
