No Right Answer: Best Animation Style Ever

[Lunar Templar]

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given that Dan him self stated 2 he should watch him self? had to dig up something that was light on the normal stuff (which is most my collection to be honest)

well, sides Lodoss War, not like i suggested Devil Hunter Yoko (though he might like that one if he like heavy metal just for the boobs...)

sides, i like the show, and Dan seems to have his mind made up and i doubt he'll even read my suggestion anyway, not to mention, the argument was weak, cause really? those where the best reasons he could come up with? really? basing his whole argument on 3 shows? 2 of which suck anyway, yeah -.- lot of credibility there

also, he gave us NO information to suggest something he might like, 'shot gun suggestions' ( just suggest me something) doesn't really work with anime because of how much diversity there is, he wants a better set of suggestions then he's gonna have to give us more information

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you know where i can find the manga? I'd love to get the REST of the story. though i do get why it would turn some one off, subtle it's not, the 'fan service'-y bits didn't bother me, for being there, a more that they felt REALLY out of place with how dark the rest of the show is. kinda hard to find Nu 'sexy' when Lucy takes people apart for looking at her funny nude or not

 

[Firefilm]

Not gonna watch this one it seems. Dans nothing but a worthless troll.

If you did watch it, you would see that they both make snipes at each other, but both also have valid points.

Whats Dans argument? " ITS FROM JAPAN NOT AMERICA THEREFORE ITS BAD!!!"

Ah no. He even went on to explain that of the anime he has watched, he's been unimpressed. He says that he is willing to give other shows that he hasn't seen a shot. If he likes them, he likes them. If he doesn't, he doesn't.

Congratulations, Soviet Heavy, you won this week's secret contest. For standing up against the hate and reminding them that this is a comedy show, and for pointing out that I had a disclaimer at the end. Your prize is an extra week of life. When you are in your 80's, you can thank us!

 

[Navvan]

@Dan: Elfen Lied, partly cause its good, partly cause there's non of the sweat drops and such you hate, and partly cause its short clocking in at 13 eps or so.

and

Vampire Hunter D, the first one. a good, but bloody anime flick

other wise :/ really ... the style that brought us forgettable crap like SPONGE BOB won .... -.- no matter how crappy the anime there's always an over arcing plot, (unless your FLCL or The Excel Saga*) also, Akira and DBZ suck, so it little wonder why Dan doesn't like anime ...

Spoiler: *

stay away from the excel saga, it will make you dumber. if you want a dumb, doesn't really go anywhere anime that wont hurt your head, FLCL, or magical shopping arcade abinabashi both manage funny with out being retarded

Elfen Lied?

Seriously? You mean the series with so much fan service of young characters that it borders on some very dodgy territory?

I like Elfen Lied, it was a good series, but it's hardly a suggestion for someone who hates tradional anime tropes.

I would say Elfen Lied doesn't really have much fan-service if any. It has a lot of nudity. The distinction being if there is a good reason I'm being shown this within the confines of the story they are trying to tell or if they are throwing it on-top of the story.

That said I agree that its likely not the best recommendation to get someone into anime. What it presents can often be misinterpreted.

I'd recommend the Miazaki films if you like Disney/Pixar films. Otherwise I'd recommend a movie known as

Sword of the Stranger.

Shorter than what you are going to get with a series so it won't waste your time. It has great action, great story, great character development, and so forth. Oh and no school girls, crazy government conspiracy, fan service, filler, or any of that other boring stuff a lot of anime is filled with.

 

[artanis_neravar]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Code Geass. It's a more serious anime so there are very few if not none of the visual animation jokes like the "rain drop", it was an original animations, so unlike DBZ or Naruto it's not based on a manga and as a result they didn't have to extended out episodes with fluff to try to match up with the manga. The animation is good, and it has a very well thought out story.

I love Code Geass and it's one of my favorite anime but I never really try to "convert" people with it, mostly because the character deign is by CLAMP and it really shows. I like the art personally but most of my friends just starting out with anime tend to think that the art looks bizarre and avoid it. What I would start with is either Cowboy Bebop (like he said he was going to try) or Baccano! For those less enlightened Bacanno! is an amazing anime about mobsters in the american 1920s-1930s. It centralizes around a train robbery and the crew of a Dutch ship who in the 1700s were given the secret to immortality. Also the dub of it is incredible.

Baccano! is amazing, but it is also way over the top, and you have to be dedicated to make it through. If you are already on the fence about anime Baccano!'s seemingly random story and especially the Isaac and Miria story line will probably be a turn off. Bebop will probably be a good choice, it's been awhile since I've seen it so I'm not a good judge. I did notice he said Trigun, which is probably a bad choice for him because it is a very goofy show between the serious.

Code Geaaa' animation is a very crisp and clean animation, it's not traditional like trigun or Bebop, but it is still good, and Dan seems to be more turned off by the style of animes and their over the top mood exaggerations.

 

[Richfeet]

It's a lost cause. See, Japan makes animated series. many have mature plots. animation over here is seen as for kids so, they get easily put down, except for a few films. They just can't compete at all. Second anime gets reviewed regardless of who watches it. I dont know of a website where people review cartoons every week episode by episode. Also people can write three pages about one scene in a single episode of a single anime about the deep philosophical meaning of it, making the anime sound like an art film home work assignment. When is the last time somebody wrote about the deepness of Spongbob's "Just one bite"? None at all. Sadly most japanese anime is well animated but isn't saying anything anymore. Japan needs to start making cartoons like ours for a while. Stop being so depressing, anime.

 

[JoaoJatoba]

Why people suggest old animes? Beebop? Trigun? All from the last millennium. Try Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood (way better than the first release), Another (horror story), GANTZ, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0. There is sooooo much more...

Anime are more like movies than cartoon, because you have tons of "american pie" comedies, but also deeper ones like Inception. The thing is you must know which is which, and that's the hard part. The themes in eastern animations are more restricted it seems (comedy, basically).

The industry of anime in japan is not at all like cartoon industry in the US. There, they are more like Hollywood..

And newbies, stay away from the series with 500 episodes. The pace is so slow. Try smaller anime, with 13 or 26 episodes.

 

[artanis_neravar]

And that's it. Apart from that, what has the Western animation stable produced of note over the last 15-20 years?

Invader Zim, Angry Beavers, Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Doug, Camp Lazlo, X-men, spiderman, etc

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Not gonna watch this one it seems. Dans nothing but a worthless troll.

If you did watch it, you would see that they both make snipes at each other, but both also have valid points.

Whats Dans argument? " ITS FROM JAPAN NOT AMERICA THEREFORE ITS BAD!!!"

Ah no. He even went on to explain that of the anime he has watched, he's been unimpressed. He says that he is willing to give other shows that he hasn't seen a shot. If he likes them, he likes them. If he doesn't, he doesn't.

Congratulations, Soviet Heavy, you won this week's secret contest. For standing up against the hate and reminding them that this is a comedy show, and for pointing out that I had a disclaimer at the end. Your prize is an extra week of life. When you are in your 80's, you can thank us!

Sweet! The I could rent Ultra Porn!

 

[artanis_neravar]

Why people suggest old animes? Beebop? Trigun? All from the last millennium. Try Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood (way better than the first release), Another (horror story), GANTZ, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0. There is sooooo much more...

Anime are more like movies than cartoon, because you have tons of "american pie" comedies, but also deeper ones like Inception. The thing is you must know which is which, and that's the hard part. The themes in eastern animations are more restricted it seems (comedy, basically).

The industry of anime in japan is not at all like cartoon industry in the US. There, they are more like Hollywood..

And newbies, stay away from the series with 500 episodes. The pace is so slow. Try smaller anime, with 13 or 26 episodes.

You should really include that GANTZ is NSFW, or atleast that it is a very Mature show

 

[mysecondlife]

Shin Chan is great. Some of the recent American Dubs are comedy gold.

 

[Furrama]

Why didn't Chris get a point for his last statement?

Dan, watch Kino's Journey. Have fun with your nightmares. I'd suggest Wolf's Rain but it's probably too deep/weird for you. You should have fun with Cowboy Bebop though. Everyone does.

Oh, quick plug for a favorite anime reviewer of mine. Go seek out Jesuotaku, (either on Blip or Thatguywiththeglasses). She'll give you a pretty good down-low on an anime you've been eyeing.

 

[RepeatAfterMe]

There truly can be "No Right Answer" if both parties total anime watched can be counted on hand.

 

[Starik20X6]

What I've always found interesting is the way anime has one main style it goes with. Sure you get some variation in art style but it's always got that same basic look. Western animation has a whole lot more visual variety to it. Imagine if every western cartoon looked like it was created by Matt Groening. It'd be weird. In the west, you can pretty much tell instantly what show a character comes from, even if you've only seen a tiny bit of it. You put Charlie Brown next to Adventure Time next to Batman The Animated Series next to Invader Zim, and each one is visually distinctive. You could take a whole bunch of anime's back to back and it'd probably just look like a very random story.

Not saying it's a bad thing, but I think it's interesting.

 

[kwagamon]

I thought that this debate was going to be which is better purely on the merits of the animation itself. I was severely disappointed.

For the record, I prefer western animation in terms of actual animation quality. Anime is very good, but the animation tends to be a little too jerky or spastic for me. You very rarely find one that actual has the characters move like living beings instead of just speed lines and suddenly they're in a different position (although there are a few animes that feature realistic movement), which really breaks the immersion pretty badly for me.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

And it seems that the anime defenders are lining up to express their outrage. Not that this was unexpected.

Seriously, can you not just take this show for what it is as a comedic argument series without getting offended that someone has a different opinion than you?

This is supposed to be comic? Where are the jokes? Where's the fun part?

I do not mind the fact that guy dislikes anime, I do mind he says ignorant things to other people like it was true. Making the watchers dumber.

Then don't watch it! If you don't like listening to them, then ignore it.