No Right Answer: Most Overrated Videogame

[hyplion]

Bioshock, the big twist was copy pasted from system shock 2. atlas left me with a bitter aftertaste: can someone say polito? and they also went for a crummy final boss fight like its spiritual predecessor.

 

[maninahat]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "OVER-RATING".

Okay, to be specific, if people are expressing their honest opinion about something, they can never over-rate something. If they are lying about the quality of something, pretending it is way better than they really think it is, then, yes, they are clearly over-rating it.

What am I talking about? Simple: the term "over-rate" claims that someone is saying something is better than it really is. The problem with that claim is that games are regarded on a largely subjective level: there is no metric for deciding, objectively, how good a game is. So if a bunch of people honestly find Mario or Zelda really good, and I think it isn't, I do not have liscense to accuse those people of over-rating the game, as though their opinion is "wrong" for thinking that thing they like is so good. It certainly doesn't give them liscense to suggest I'm "underating" the same games, just for thinking lowly of them.

There is no centralised agency for deciding how good games are, so until there is, "over-rating" is a term that should be used exclusively to refer to that thing journalists do, when they pretend a game is good just to keep cosy with the devs.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

In a nutshell, my thoughts:

Perfect Dark >>>>>>> Goldeneye

FF6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FF7

Most over-rated game ever? Skyrim. Good, just not anywhere near as good as it should have been.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "OVER-RATING".

Okay, to be specific, if people are expressing their honest opinion about something, they can never over-rate something. If they are lying about the quality of something, pretending it is way better than they really think it is, then, yes, they are clearly over-rating it.

What am I talking about? Simple: the term "over-rate" claims that someone is saying something is better than it really is. The problem with that claim is that games are regarded on a largely subjective level: there is no metric for deciding, objectively, how good a game is. So if a bunch of people honestly find Mario or Zelda really good, and I think it isn't, I do not have liscense to accuse those people of over-rating the game, as though their opinion is "wrong" for thinking that thing they like is so good. It certainly doesn't give them liscense to suggest I'm "underating" the same games, just for thinking lowly of them.

There is no centralised agency for deciding how good games are, so until there is, "over-rating" is a term that should be used exclusively to refer to that thing journalists do, when they pretend a game is good just to keep cosy with the devs.

You are wrong for one reason: People exaggerate. It is a form of lying, and people do it a lot. People also get massive nostalgia goggles, and remember things as being better than they were.

 

[Skiisk]

Halo and CoD most overrated bar none, for they are just plain mediocre and yet are praised as something more. HL2 takes the bronze.

Golden eye overrated? Go to bed kids.

 

[Monkeyman O'Brien]

Dude lost any and all credibility when he said that FF8 had a better story than 7. Also when he called 7 cookie cutter for all those tropes. What game do you think invented those tropes? Yeah, FFVII.

As for most over rated. Shadow of the Colossus. Boring, empty, broken piece of shit game that does not deserve to be remembered at all let alone called one of the best artistic games of all time.

 

[217not237]

I have to say Final Fantasy VII. People admit that GoldenEye has aged poorly. They say it all the time. The only praise it gets is out if nostalgia, and people accept that people didn't like it, since the controlls are old. FFVII, on the other hand, is still considered great! Well, to be honest, the game I always call the most overrated is, shocking, since I'm a JRPG fan, Chrono Trigger. I couldn't find anything to like about it, and the main reason people remember it so fondly is because it was innovative.

 

[maninahat]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "OVER-RATING".

Okay, to be specific, if people are expressing their honest opinion about something, they can never over-rate something. If they are lying about the quality of something, pretending it is way better than they really think it is, then, yes, they are clearly over-rating it.

What am I talking about? Simple: the term "over-rate" claims that someone is saying something is better than it really is. The problem with that claim is that games are regarded on a largely subjective level: there is no metric for deciding, objectively, how good a game is. So if a bunch of people honestly find Mario or Zelda really good, and I think it isn't, I do not have liscense to accuse those people of over-rating the game, as though their opinion is "wrong" for thinking that thing they like is so good. It certainly doesn't give them liscense to suggest I'm "underating" the same games, just for thinking lowly of them.

There is no centralised agency for deciding how good games are, so until there is, "over-rating" is a term that should be used exclusively to refer to that thing journalists do, when they pretend a game is good just to keep cosy with the devs.

You are wrong for one reason: People exaggerate. It is a form of lying, and people do it a lot. People also get massive nostalgia goggles, and remember things as being better than they were.

Exaggeration isn't really a lie, it is a rhetorical device that carries across the sentiments and essence of how a person views the game. If someone says Sonic 4 is the bestest thing ever, maybe they believe that. Even if they don't and they are exaggerating, and you sit them down and point out that they obviously like some things more so, they'll probably sit you down and explain that exaggerations are not meant to be taken literally, and that they were simply trying to articulate that Sonic 4 is very good. I'm surprised you haven't called a metaphor a lie as well.

As for nostalgia, the rose tinted way in which we look back on something simply reflects a change in view: we've grown to like something more than we used to, and we've diminished the importance of the negatives that may have once bothered us. That doesn't mean that the individual is lying to themself, or is any less honest about their preferences than before.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "OVER-RATING".

Okay, to be specific, if people are expressing their honest opinion about something, they can never over-rate something. If they are lying about the quality of something, pretending it is way better than they really think it is, then, yes, they are clearly over-rating it.

What am I talking about? Simple: the term "over-rate" claims that someone is saying something is better than it really is. The problem with that claim is that games are regarded on a largely subjective level: there is no metric for deciding, objectively, how good a game is. So if a bunch of people honestly find Mario or Zelda really good, and I think it isn't, I do not have liscense to accuse those people of over-rating the game, as though their opinion is "wrong" for thinking that thing they like is so good. It certainly doesn't give them liscense to suggest I'm "underating" the same games, just for thinking lowly of them.

There is no centralised agency for deciding how good games are, so until there is, "over-rating" is a term that should be used exclusively to refer to that thing journalists do, when they pretend a game is good just to keep cosy with the devs.

You are wrong for one reason: People exaggerate. It is a form of lying, and people do it a lot. People also get massive nostalgia goggles, and remember things as being better than they were.

Exaggeration isn't really a lie, it is a rhetorical device that carries across the sentiments and essence of how a person views the game. If someone says Sonic 4 is the bestest thing ever, maybe they believe that. Even if they don't and they are exaggerating, and you sit them down and point out that they obviously like some things more so, they'll probably sit you down and explain that exaggerations are not meant to be taken literally, and that they were simply trying to articulate that Sonic 4 is very good. I'm surprised you haven't called a metaphor a lie as well.

As for nostalgia, the rose tinted way in which we look back on something simply reflects a change in view: we've grown to like something more than we used to, and we've diminished the importance of the negatives that may have once bothered us. That doesn't mean that the individual is lying to themself, or is any less honest about their preferences than before.

Whether it is a kind of lying or not is irrelevant, people will hype up a game as better than even they think it is, either because they are exaggerating or not remembering it properly, therefore it is over-rated.

 

[Lunar Templar]

the correct answer has been reached i think, of the generation golden eye and FF7 hail i can think of no game as over rated as FF7

 

[Right Hook]

yes, what DO you mean by linkin park?

I don't know, I'm wondering that myself, haha. I feel like Chris just says things that don't make any sense some times.

 

[draythefingerless]

yes, what DO you mean by linkin park?

I don't know, I'm wondering that myself, haha. I feel like Chris just says things that don't make any sense some times.

i think he used to be one of those linky die hard fans back when their good albums came out, then saw Transformers...and a bit of his heart got bitter rotten and disgustingly twisted, turning him into the critical debater he is now.

or you know, bullshit.

 

[Vault101]

the term "over-rated" just seems to be a phrase we can use to take a stab at popular things we dont like...

...so in the spirit of that I'll say Oblivion and Skyrim

 

[szakalt]

my opinion:
Skyrim as the most overrated game of this decade.
MW3 close second
GTA 4

 

[Sexy Devil]

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[BehattedWanderer]

I'll give it to Final Fantasy VII, merely because it's somehow managed to age well. Goldeneye, conversely, is remembered well, but the age lines started showing a long time ago haven't stopped coming. VII is aging, no doubt, but it's just below that "cougar" line, where it remembers being the hottest thing around, but isn't anymore, times having been a bit hard.

Wait...if FF VII is almost a cougar...

Does that make something like Chrono Trigger a Silver Fox?

 

[Tanakh]

Well I think one of it's merits, or better said one of the reasons why it was hailed as being great was the fact that it had four player - which was undoubtedly a lot of fun but I attribute that bonus more to the console it was on than anything else.

So I do agree that GoldenEye is a little overrated and think that a lot of what people liked about it had to do with the system it was on.

Then again without golden eye we wouldn't have Halo, GoW or RAGE, ID software would still make Qake and Epic would do UT...

OMG! Golden Eye is not overrated, it was the the ANTICHRIST! It should burn!!!111


Edit: BTW, Skyrim is an amazing game, one of the best EVER!!onene!


[small]on the computer, with sck and heavily modded, otherwise i wouldnt even touch it[/small]


Edit 2:

Aw, come on, it's up to me to say it? Way most overrated game of all time: Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time.

And there is your right answer. Was a good game, but nowhere near the praise it gets, even most of the Zelda fanboys will admit it wasn't the most innovative or the best of the series.

 

[Monty McDougal]

What was that comment about Linkin Park suppose to mean?

 

[Closet Superhero]

Ocarina of Time, Half-Life, Secret of Monkey Island, Modern Warfare 3, GTA IV, Metal Gear Solid 2. All worthy candidates in addition to the two discussed.

In defense of FF7: It has the best story of the FF franchise. (period) FF6 is its only competition. No game has better used its story as an allegory to examine the video game player without being outright hostile towards them (see MGS2).

Jenova remains one of the most compellingly mysterious RPG antagonists of all-time, cthulu-like in its origins and motivations, while the portrayal of Shinra is one of the most relevant and powerful video game critiques of corporations in our own societies.

Cloud is NOT the typical JRPG angsty emo kid because the game points to how pathetic his angst is and how he is in all likelihood repressing his homosexuality. Compare that to Squall who IS just a typical angsty emo kid. Meanwhile FF9 is frankly a kids story and the characters in FF10 are all unbearably annoying save for Auron and Kimahri (because he doesn't talk).

The battle mechanics are shallow and the 3d graphics are bad only in so far as the game has aged. Besides, no one tends to over-rate these aspects of the game.

Basically I'm suggesting that FF7 does in fact have one of the greatest stories in video game history, definitely a top fiver out of the games I've personally played. In virtue of that alone, I don't think it is too over-rated when people laud the story. Also, Nobuo Uematsu did the score and that's got to count for something!

Are any of those other over-rated games a top-5 in some key aspect of video gaming?

 

[renegade7]

FF7, Halo, or Oblivion all come to mind...