No Right Answer: The Killing Joke vs Watchmen
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This.The_root_of_all_evil said:V for vendetta?
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?
Skizz?
Halo Jones?
D.R. and Quinch?
Swamp Thing?
Hellblazer?
ABC Warriors?
Doctor Who? (Comic only)
Killing Joke spawned the Miller series, so loses points.
Watchmen is only his most well-known work, not his best.
Like last week, it's not "No Right Answer" it's "Not The Right Candidates".
The Ballard of Halo Jones is way better. It was in 2000 AD though so they may have an excuse for missing it.
Yeah. I mean sure, the squid monster was ridiculous (something that the movie actually improved upon immensely), but come on. This should have been a tie. Personally, I'd prefer Watchmen over TKJ and find Watchmen to be the best graphical novel off all time, though neither are without flaws.Ne1butme said:
Yeah, it's missing something. It does have potential, but it's just not so fun to watch these two talk and the subjects are somewhat bland and shallow.Visulth said:
Why can't he say vagina in the video? Is that a bad word now? What about penis? Why are these videos censored like we're in China?
._. i loved the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen! Also I didn't like watchmen at all, it was so unfocused. Enough for a book but too much for a movie. Not to mention there were sex scenes every 15 minutes! IT WAS SOOOO UNFOCUSED!
V for Vendetta is one of the best movies ever. Guess who plays V, Hugo Weaving. I could have never guessed that.
Plus, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic is terrible but the movie rocks.
Plus, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic is terrible but the movie rocks.
Great stuff. I don't even read comic books or the aforementioned long-ass comic books, but both of the guys obviously cared about the material. That made the argument interesting.
And now that the show is actually getting funny and interesting, comments have severely dropped off. Is the Escapist losing steam or do its viewers really just hate being entertained?
And now that the show is actually getting funny and interesting, comments have severely dropped off. Is the Escapist losing steam or do its viewers really just hate being entertained?
Loved Watchmen, liked Killing Joke but I am a little more partial with his run on Swamp Thing and that Superman story he did.
You noticed that too? Three weeks in a row it's been judge's decision (because water's a lot easier to chug than Jones Soda) and gone to Chris.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
The reason those two are so important is because they both kind of changed everything. Watchman was what set off the 'gritty realistic hero' thing Killing Joke is what shifted joker from being 'clown/gambling themed villain to what he is'
edit: don't bother pointing out that DKR came out b4 Killing Joke. someone else already did. Thanks
edit: don't bother pointing out that DKR came out b4 Killing Joke. someone else already did. Thanks
Didn't Alan Moore write both?
And having read only watchmen, I will have to say that it's brilliant, but then again I do love me some Joker.
And having read only watchmen, I will have to say that it's brilliant, but then again I do love me some Joker.
Was going to say this. That book makes me cry everytime.The Great JT said:I'd say it's a tie. Watchmen was incredible (and the movie was pretty good too), The Killing Joke was incredible, but you want to know what the true best Alan Moore story was?
But if you really, REALLY want to get how great Alan Moore can be you got to go way back to where the Vertigo imprint began.
Next to nothing in comics beats this series.
You know, I've been thinking about what is wrong with this show, and I think i got it more or less figured out. You guys take a broad question, with numerous potentially correct answers then pick two of them to debate over. This leads to a feeling by some viewers that neither answer was right because their favorite is not present in the debate.
Take for example the question of Superman VS Batman. There are two ways you can ask this question, the way you have been it would look like this:
Who is the best superhero ever?
Person A: Superman!
Person B: Batman!
Audience: 'Green Lantern!' 'Captain Marvel!' 'Squirrel Girl! (seriously look at the list of villains she's taken down)'
Then the audience doesn't feel so good about the debate because they aren't invested in either of the choices.
Now, if you asked it in a slightly different way:
"Who do you think is better, Superman, or Batman?"
then the audience would be put into a better mindset to really get into the idea of the debate rather than just thinking that neither choice is good.
Take for example the question of Superman VS Batman. There are two ways you can ask this question, the way you have been it would look like this:
Who is the best superhero ever?
Person A: Superman!
Person B: Batman!
Audience: 'Green Lantern!' 'Captain Marvel!' 'Squirrel Girl! (seriously look at the list of villains she's taken down)'
Then the audience doesn't feel so good about the debate because they aren't invested in either of the choices.
Now, if you asked it in a slightly different way:
"Who do you think is better, Superman, or Batman?"
then the audience would be put into a better mindset to really get into the idea of the debate rather than just thinking that neither choice is good.