No Right Answer: Worst Reboot Ever

[MorganL4]

Includes Planet of the Apes book spoiler that kind of defends Burton's ending.

Spoiler

] To be fair, The ending of Burton's planet of the apes where he shows up and sees a Chimpraham Lincoln memorial is kinda what happened at the end of the book. In the book, they go back and a gorilla politician gets out of a limo and introduces himself to the main character, and he main character's new wife (kind of, technically just his mate) freaks out and runs back on the space ship cradling their child.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Still that doesn't justify Spock doing Kirk's "KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!" line and then going into a rage and trying to beat Kahn to death.

Maybe he has learned the importance of some level of emotional existence, as he did in the 1970s "Star Trek: The Motionless Picture".

But your point is taken. And I think they later said it was a mistake to have Saavik shed a tear at Spock's "funeral".

It hasn't spoiled the movies for me. They are B+ rather than Empire Strikes Back level A+, but they're fun. Hardly the worst reboots ever. Given the rules for this thread, I'd still give it to Dalton's Bond movies. I think people still want to see Star Trek III with Abrams at the helm. Another Dalton Bond movie? Please, in the name of all the is good and holy, don't let it happen!

Really? If I was feeling charitable I'd give the first film a C+ and Into Darkness a D-. I will admit that the first film was enjoyable, but Into Darkness is only enjoyable if your planning on riffing it. Neither of them did the franchise any favours.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

Man of Steel gets way too much flak for how not-awful it was. It wasn't amazing, it wasn't even as good as Superman Returns, but it wasn't a terrible movie.

Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes was a TERRIBLE movie.

 

[Korskarn]

How is the winner (loser?) not Highlander? They've had to reboot that franchise 4 times!

(Original) Immortal dudes cut each others' heads off.
(Reboot 1) Scrap the "immortal" thing, this time they're aliens.
(Reboot 2) Nope, they're immortals again, but the original ending never happened
(Reboot 3) Hi, I'm a cartoon!
(Reboot 4) Live action series, the movies never happened (although the main character from the original still exists)

...and there's a 5th reboot in the works. They're *technically* sequels and spinoffs, rather than reboots, but each one changes the previously established mythology so much I consider them more as Do-Overs.

EDIT - Wow, I misremembered when the series actually started. In 1994 there were actually 3 different Highlander mythologies at the same time - the live action series, the cartoon series, and the third movie.

 

[Arppis]

Whoa, whoa, whoa... WORST reboot ever?

So wait you guys aren't listing these two reboots instead: The Thing or Total Recall? Instead you guys pick these two?

Seriously? Those two movies sucked HAAAARD they were really boring. Atleast Man of Steel had fun action and it was entertaining to watch. Planet of the Apes wasn't great or anything... but atleast I could bare watch trough it.

But Total Recall and The Thing were horrible. Absolutely horrible.

 

[Korskarn]

Whoa, whoa, whoa... WORST reboot ever?

So wait you guys aren't listing these two reboots instead: The Thing or Total Recall? Instead you guys pick these two?

Seriously? Those two movies sucked HAAAARD they were really boring. Atleast Man of Steel had fun action and it was entertaining to watch. Planet of the Apes wasn't great or anything... but atleast I could bare watch trough it.

But Total Recall and The Thing were horrible. Absolutely horrible.

Because they were remakes, not reboots.

Reboots = Franchise; there was an attempt at a continuous story across multiple films and/or series.
Remakes = 1-off; there was no forward momentum for the reboot to kill (Chris' rule #3).

Robocop, Predator, Aliens, Superman, Highlander, Planet of the Apes, all had multiple stories contributing to the franchise.

The Thing, Total Recall, Day the Earth Stood Still, War of the Worlds, none of them had a franchise to "kill".

(Incidentally, rule #3 is why Amazing Spider-Man and Star Trek get a pass because the franchise has continued on. Chris' loophole with Man of Steel is that the sequel is going to be a team-up movie rather than a solo sequel)

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Really? If I was feeling charitable I'd give the first film a C+ and Into Darkness a D-. I will admit that the first film was enjoyable, but Into Darkness is only enjoyable if your planning on riffing it. Neither of them did the franchise any favours.

Except make a buttload of money and get non-Trekkies to see a Star Trek movie. Which was their entire reason for existence.

That didn't do the franchise any favours, that only did the Executives' pocket books favours.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

That didn't do the franchise any favours, that only did the Executives' pocket books favours.

And "Into Darkness" has like an 87% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. And non-Trekkies like Star Trek for once. Mission Accomplished.

Am I supposed to care what Rotten Tomatoes thinks? And non-Trekkies like Star Trek eh? Well actual Trekkies don't. ...or maybe that's just me.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Am I supposed to care what Rotten Tomatoes thinks? And non-Trekkies like Star Trek eh? Well actual Trekkies don't. ...or maybe that's just me.

And when it comes down to it, hardcore Trekkies are not who the new movies are aimed at. They're aimed at younger viewers and the public at large. And it worked. The DC superhero movies weren't aimed at the comic book fanatics but the Marvel movies are designed to pander and appease them.

So attracting a new audience by alienating the audience you already have is considered a sound strategy is it? In any case I think a reboot could have been done that would've done the whole "appeal to a younger new audience" thing without being this stupid.

 

[Ratty]

How is the winner (loser?) not Highlander? They've had to reboot that franchise 4 times!

(Original) Immortal dudes cut each others' heads off.
(Reboot 1) Scrap the "immortal" thing, this time they're aliens.
(Reboot 2) Nope, they're immortals again, but the original ending never happened
(Reboot 3) Hi, I'm a cartoon!
(Reboot 4) Live action series, the movies never happened (although the main character from the original still exists)

...and there's a 5th reboot in the works. They're *technically* sequels and spinoffs, rather than reboots, but each one changes the previously established mythology so much I consider them more as Do-Overs.

EDIT - Wow, I misremembered when the series actually started. In 1994 there were actually 3 different Highlander mythologies at the same time - the live action series, the cartoon series, and the third movie.

Forcefully forgotten the mythology rewriting in Highlander: Endgame and Highlander: The Source eh? I'm not that big a fan of the series but can't say I blame you.

 

[duchaked]

the moment people start bashing Man of Steel I just sort of shut out nowadays. heard plenty of it in the past year haha. I don't particularly love the movie (or the older ones, or the character in general), but I recently went back to re-watch some scenes and...yeah still think it's pretty good. well shot if anything.

that being said...Amazing Spider-Man I disliked a lot. I guess my gauge is that Man of Steel made me want to see more Superman (after hearing news of its sequel however...not anymore haha not even a bit). Amazing Spider-Man made me NOT want to see more Spider-Man lol

 

[Spider RedNight]

I dunnooooo I'm still sort of sidling over with the people who think Amazing Spider-Man was the worst reboot. While Man of Steel was PRETTY bad, there were still a couple of things I liked about it and I'm not nearly as fiery about bashing it as many others are. PoTA... At first, I too was thinking "What. They aren't seriously about to try to explain why 'Rise' was a bad reboot", I just sort of... shrug off any Tim Burton movie that isn't ORIGINALLY from him - I'm really excited about Beetlejuice 2, especially because Keaton's coming back but Alice, Dark Shadows, PoTA... I just sort of ignore them (Alice REALLY pissed me off) and say "Well, it's not Burton's imagination on this one so of course it's not gonna be as good as Edward Scissorhands).

I'm one of those people who's never really liked the Spider-Man movies; I feel like there was a TAD bit too much drama and angst and TAS only made it WORSE. I just don't get it, why would they strip EVEN MORE of Spider-Man's original character for the sake of wangst and brooding? It's like every superhero wants to jump on Batman's bandwagon because his trilogy, whether you like it or not, made LOADS of money.

(Disclaimer: Yes, I understand that Batman did not invent brooding over things he lost, it's just when I think "brooding superhero", I think of Batman (and maybe Wolverine)

 

[xPixelatedx]

I'm voting for Amazing Spiderman

I'm going to second Amazing Spider-Man.

I third this. It should have really been between Man of Steel and Amazing Spiderman

I thought the planet of the Apes reboot was a fantastic movie, and I would have loved a sequel. Sure the ending was silly, weird and made no sense, and it did loose the original message. It was however pretty good and entertaining all it's own. The fact he didn't like the Tim Burton's Batmans either just tells me we have a VERY different tastes.

 

[Nicole Maronn]

Planet of the Apes clearly wins this round (my god it was just awful)! Man of Steel, to me, wasn't that bad. I liked the main cast and it did have some rather nice moments for the characters. BUT what really killed it was how over-bloated the over-all feel the movie was trying to go for. I'm fine with drama for Superman, but the film really needed to have some humor in there to lighten the mood and get a better script to execute it properly.