Just because you are the most vocal group does not mean that you are the majorityNameIsRobertPaulson said:Guess what I'm not getting?
Though that sentiment seems to be basically universal. Did they want anyone to buy this thing?
Fiz_The_Toaster said:I was wondering the exact same thingKorten12 said:I was under the same impression, but apparently not. Silly us.Fiz_The_Toaster said:Plus, isn't the whole main point of buying a vita is to, you know, play Vita games?
The only PSP games that I would want to transfer are Birth by sleep and Crisis Core, both of them can't be download, which is exactly why I will keep my PSP.Snotnarok said:I still want the PSP2 (vita is a crap name) however I'll be keeping my PSP close. Even if they had some transfer plan because seriously that's just dumb.
But people don't want the truth, they want to hate the people who made it big by being good at what they are doing, people seem to mistake "wanting to make money for the job you do" with "being greedy"ila said:I still can't believe how self-entitled certain gamers feel. When I bought a UMD I wasn't thinking to myself "oh boy I sure hope this works on every Sony system ever." It' just like a license. When I bought say, God Eater Burst on UMD, I was buying just that. The game on UMD. At no point was anyone obligated to make sure I can download a digital version of the game for use on a new upcoming system.
And for the record, this whole "transfer" system only covered games that already had PSN releases. It didn't cover every UMD, in fact it covered a very limited amount. Hardly "crippling."
Full disclosure here: yes I have the Vita preordered, and I also own a 3DS. I don't care to see any company "fail" or the like. I'd rather that gaming continues to get better. I really don't think the recent trend of negative journalism is helping the case at all.
I would like to thank the four of you, I was really starting to think the community here was full of people who immediately jump on the hate bandwagon.
And on a side note, are we sure Rupert Murdoch doesn't own the Escapist? because most of these news articles read like something I would hear on Fox News
But you are not upgrading, you are buying a new handheld,but ignoring that, any game you already downloaded for your PSP (including the PSone Classics) will be playable on the Vita.Zouriz said:Ah, but here is the thing. It discourages people to upgrade their PSP to a Vita. Why should they upgrade if the Vita can't play any of their PSP games?Korten12 said:Plus, isn't the whole main point of buying a vita is to, you know, play Vita games?Fiz_The_Toaster said:That's what I was thinking, I don't know many people that have a PSP, i.e. only one other person, so I don't think it's going to hurt Sony that much in the long run. Yeah it sucks for the people that want to transfer over to the Vita, but really, if you already own the PSP, why would you want to get ride of it when you know for a fact that you can still use it to play games?Korten12 said:It sucks but honestly... The west won't care. Despite what many think, The PSP IS DEAD in the west. It never sold well here, so this probably will have little effect on sales. Plus, I understand the want to have the ability to play old games, but if you didn't have a PSP (which most likely sales will be full of) then this will have little to no effect.
Would I want this UMD system? Hell yes.
Will it effect sales heavily? No.
Still plan on getting the Vita though, even though this news kinda blows.
Um... isn't the whole main point of buying a vita is to, you know, play Vita games?Zouriz said:Ah, but here is the thing. It discourages people to upgrade their PSP to a Vita. Why should they upgrade if the Vita can't play any of their PSP games?Korten12 said:Plus, isn't the whole main point of buying a vita is to, you know, play Vita games?Fiz_The_Toaster said:That's what I was thinking, I don't know many people that have a PSP, i.e. only one other person, so I don't think it's going to hurt Sony that much in the long run. Yeah it sucks for the people that want to transfer over to the Vita, but really, if you already own the PSP, why would you want to get ride of it when you know for a fact that you can still use it to play games?Korten12 said:It sucks but honestly... The west won't care. Despite what many think, The PSP IS DEAD in the west. It never sold well here, so this probably will have little effect on sales. Plus, I understand the want to have the ability to play old games, but if you didn't have a PSP (which most likely sales will be full of) then this will have little to no effect.
Would I want this UMD system? Hell yes.
Will it effect sales heavily? No.
Still plan on getting the Vita though, even though this news kinda blows.
Here's a different scenario that a lot of gamers have:RikuoAmero said:No-one is has said that Sony is obligated to give us downloadable copies of our PSP games. No, what we're complaining about is poor customer service. Here's the scenario.
Let's say I now have a PSP in my hand (one with a UMD drive, the less said about the Go, the better). I've got a bunch of games on it I've paid money for (let's also assume I bought them all new, so we don't get into the arguments over new vs used). I now hear that Vita is on its way, its the shiny new handheld console, its more powerful and generally better.
However, the main thing keeping me from then buying the Vita is the fact its a separate console. The point of a handheld console is the fact you can carry it around with you, preferably stick it in a pocket, or keep it in the inside pocket of my coat. Now, I have to worry about which of the two handhelds from the same manufacturer I will bring with me. I'm not going to bring both, I already bring my smartphone with me (and that's competition right there, smartphones already have a bunch of great games, at better prices).
So, one way Sony could have persuaded me to buy their new product would have been to offer me downloads of any UMD games I have for the PSP. One way it could have worked would be to stick the disc in the PSP drive, log in to my Sony Account on the PSP and have the option to then register the game to my account. I then log in to my Sony account on the Vita and I'm able to download. Once my downloads are complete, I toss the PSP, and keep the Vita, and then on buying Vita games.
As the Vita is right now, its competing with its manufacturer's own products (which is never a good thing). At the moment, the only Vita game I'm interested in getting is Persona 4, but one game is not enough to get me to buy a machine.
Where did you come up with that malarkey? I just googled "first rule of business" and nowhere did "be nice" show up. Certainly it can be beneficial to "be nice" to your customers, whatever that means, but it's hardly a rule of business. It sounds more like some pithy bit of wisdom someone who knows nothing about running or building a business.Rainboq said:Alright, Sony, time to go back to business school. Rule one of business is BE NICE TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
I don't get it... why do you need to play War of the Lions on the Vita? Why not just play it on your PSP? What is the point of spending $250 on hardware to play a game you already own for a system you already own? If there's no games for the PSV that you want right now, then don't buy it and stick with your PSP. The more people that do that, the more reason there is for Sony to consider reducing the price sooner rather than later.Redd the Sock said:If I want to play War of the Lions on the vita, I'd have to pay full PSN price to download it, even though I own the physical copy.
artanis_neravar said:Just because you are the most vocal group does not mean that you are the majorityNameIsRobertPaulson said:Guess what I'm not getting?
Though that sentiment seems to be basically universal. Did they want anyone to buy this thing?Uhh....Fiz_The_Toaster said:I was wondering the exact same thingKorten12 said:I was under the same impression, but apparently not. Silly us.Fiz_The_Toaster said:Plus, isn't the whole main point of buying a vita is to, you know, play Vita games?
The only PSP games that I would want to transfer are Birth by sleep and Crisis Core, both of them can't be download, which is exactly why I will keep my PSP.Snotnarok said:I still want the PSP2 (vita is a crap name) however I'll be keeping my PSP close. Even if they had some transfer plan because seriously that's just dumb.
But people don't want the truth, they want to hate the people who made it big by being good at what they are doing, people seem to mistake "wanting to make money for the job you do" with "being greedy"ila said:I still can't believe how self-entitled certain gamers feel. When I bought a UMD I wasn't thinking to myself "oh boy I sure hope this works on every Sony system ever." It' just like a license. When I bought say, God Eater Burst on UMD, I was buying just that. The game on UMD. At no point was anyone obligated to make sure I can download a digital version of the game for use on a new upcoming system.
And for the record, this whole "transfer" system only covered games that already had PSN releases. It didn't cover every UMD, in fact it covered a very limited amount. Hardly "crippling."
Full disclosure here: yes I have the Vita preordered, and I also own a 3DS. I don't care to see any company "fail" or the like. I'd rather that gaming continues to get better. I really don't think the recent trend of negative journalism is helping the case at all.
I would like to thank the four of you, I was really starting to think the community here was full of people who immediately jump on the hate bandwagon.
And on a side note, are we sure Rupert Murdoch doesn't own the Escapist? because most of these news articles read like something I would hear on Fox News
You may want to do something about that. I'm certain the mods won't take very kindly to it.
.No. said:Honestly if the mods are going to ban me for stating my opinion about some of the articles, then I don't want to be part of this site. Thanks for the heads up thoughartanis_neravar said:Just because you are the most vocal group does not mean that you are the majorityNameIsRobertPaulson said:Guess what I'm not getting?
Though that sentiment seems to be basically universal. Did they want anyone to buy this thing?Uhh....Fiz_The_Toaster said:I was wondering the exact same thingKorten12 said:I was under the same impression, but apparently not. Silly us.Fiz_The_Toaster said:Plus, isn't the whole main point of buying a vita is to, you know, play Vita games?
The only PSP games that I would want to transfer are Birth by sleep and Crisis Core, both of them can't be download, which is exactly why I will keep my PSP.Snotnarok said:I still want the PSP2 (vita is a crap name) however I'll be keeping my PSP close. Even if they had some transfer plan because seriously that's just dumb.
But people don't want the truth, they want to hate the people who made it big by being good at what they are doing, people seem to mistake "wanting to make money for the job you do" with "being greedy"ila said:I still can't believe how self-entitled certain gamers feel. When I bought a UMD I wasn't thinking to myself "oh boy I sure hope this works on every Sony system ever." It' just like a license. When I bought say, God Eater Burst on UMD, I was buying just that. The game on UMD. At no point was anyone obligated to make sure I can download a digital version of the game for use on a new upcoming system.
And for the record, this whole "transfer" system only covered games that already had PSN releases. It didn't cover every UMD, in fact it covered a very limited amount. Hardly "crippling."
Full disclosure here: yes I have the Vita preordered, and I also own a 3DS. I don't care to see any company "fail" or the like. I'd rather that gaming continues to get better. I really don't think the recent trend of negative journalism is helping the case at all.
I would like to thank the four of you, I was really starting to think the community here was full of people who immediately jump on the hate bandwagon.
And on a side note, are we sure Rupert Murdoch doesn't own the Escapist? because most of these news articles read like something I would hear on Fox News
You may want to do something about that. I'm certain the mods won't take very kindly to it.
Wait really? Damn you sony. well quess I don't need to fill out my collection of those >.>Crono1973 said:I am just amazed at how many people have the attitude:
- The Vita does not play PS1 classics at this time, maybe it will in the future, maybe not
- Yes, they CAN make this happen, they did it in Japan and they can do it here if they want to
artanis_neravar said:Your welcome. Oh, and this is there official stance on the issue at hand:.No. said:Honestly if the mods are going to ban me for stating my opinion about some of the articles, then I don't want to be part of this site. Thanks for the heads up thoughartanis_neravar said:Just because you are the most vocal group does not mean that you are the majorityNameIsRobertPaulson said:Guess what I'm not getting?
Though that sentiment seems to be basically universal. Did they want anyone to buy this thing?Uhh....Fiz_The_Toaster said:I was wondering the exact same thingKorten12 said:I was under the same impression, but apparently not. Silly us.Fiz_The_Toaster said:Plus, isn't the whole main point of buying a vita is to, you know, play Vita games?
The only PSP games that I would want to transfer are Birth by sleep and Crisis Core, both of them can't be download, which is exactly why I will keep my PSP.Snotnarok said:I still want the PSP2 (vita is a crap name) however I'll be keeping my PSP close. Even if they had some transfer plan because seriously that's just dumb.
But people don't want the truth, they want to hate the people who made it big by being good at what they are doing, people seem to mistake "wanting to make money for the job you do" with "being greedy"ila said:I still can't believe how self-entitled certain gamers feel. When I bought a UMD I wasn't thinking to myself "oh boy I sure hope this works on every Sony system ever." It' just like a license. When I bought say, God Eater Burst on UMD, I was buying just that. The game on UMD. At no point was anyone obligated to make sure I can download a digital version of the game for use on a new upcoming system.
And for the record, this whole "transfer" system only covered games that already had PSN releases. It didn't cover every UMD, in fact it covered a very limited amount. Hardly "crippling."
Full disclosure here: yes I have the Vita preordered, and I also own a 3DS. I don't care to see any company "fail" or the like. I'd rather that gaming continues to get better. I really don't think the recent trend of negative journalism is helping the case at all.
I would like to thank the four of you, I was really starting to think the community here was full of people who immediately jump on the hate bandwagon.
And on a side note, are we sure Rupert Murdoch doesn't own the Escapist? because most of these news articles read like something I would hear on Fox News
You may want to do something about that. I'm certain the mods won't take very kindly to it.
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Yea... once the price dropped to a reasonable amount and people figured out how to crack it.Skopintsev said:Also, can we please refrain from calling the Vita a 'failure'? Give the platform some time for christ sakes, the PSP didn't do well at the start either and its at what now? 70+ million?
they took out the gba thing to make room for the camera and stuffZeZZZZevy said:Yea this is going to put me off from buying the system. I would have probably gotten it if I could still keep all my PSP games, but without that, no. Haven't bought any DS past the 2nd gen model (after that they rigged the systems so you couldn't play GBA games on it for some reason...)
Oh well. I'll just save money to buy a console once the next gen ones hit.