Just want to point out that even though it isn't out yet (Windows 8 that is) Microsoft have already begun to buy exclusives to the Metro platform, so just like console exclusivity expect to start seeing games that can run perfectly fine on your PC (cus they are) being locked into Metro only. Yes only Metro is the walled garden, but Microsoft are going to be pretty aggressive about making sure you have to enter it to get the games you want.
Notch: Windows 8 Could Be "Very Very Bad" for Indies
- Thread starter The Wooster
- Start date
Recommended Videos
According to this video not even old, un-tech savvy people are going to use it.madster11 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nU
I haven't used windows 8 myself since I have no interest in the metro thing, but from what I've seen of windows 8 it seems very unintuitive. In my opinion hiding buttons and making operations rely on obscure mouse gestures does not make it more intuitive. But that may just be me since everyone in favor of windows 8 keeps talking about how intuitive it is.
Epic Ninja is epic. Windows 8 is the successor in terms of dev cycles to Vista and ME. Not a huge pedigree there. Add the fact that Win7 is amazing, and you've got yourself a nice argument for keeping 7 around for as long as we kept our XP installs.Moonlight Butterfly said:
You missed Windows 2000, which was basically the basic shell of Windows XP, and whose file structure/handler was based on Windows NT. (fun fact: The source code for Windows 2000 was leaked in 2004, which had a profound impact on XP since XP was based on Win2000)CriticKitten said:
Also, the launch version of Windows 98' was an absolute train-wreck. I remember this not for its actual launch, but because I would spend my early days of fixing computers with troubleshooting problems for users who didn't get the Win98 Upgrade Disc.
(That, and "fixing" Windows ME. Which is the technical equivalent of the tragedy of Sisyphus.)
Really, the version of Win98 that we "fondly" remember is actually Win98 Second Edition.
Uniquely, this is the first case where a Windows launch is being condemned well before the beta is even through. This would be like pissing all over Vista back when it was still codenamed "Longhorn".
I honestly think ReactOS (also open-source) will be poised to dominate the market more so than Linux, at least for client side applications, just because it's designed to emulate windows 2000/XP so closely. It's also in the process of reverse engineering and developing its own DirectX-type API, which will be crucial for any kind take over as far as gaming PC are concerned.fenixkane said:
The only major drawback is it's incomplete 64-bit environment. Making it an attractive option to people switching from WXP 32, but not necessarily W7 64.
Why do people treat whatever Notch says as though he is some unquestionable prophet.I like minecraft and I think its success has created a new better way to make games however the man is frankly a bit of an idiot the whole debacle over bluexephos and so on I think he has let the success or minecraft and the unwavering loyalty of some fanatic fans go to his head.I'm not saying you have to agree with me I just don't understand the worship he gets.
Guess I'm sticking with Windows 7 unless they pull an even bigger dick move by dropping support for it almost immediately after 8 comes out. In which case, I'll force myself to learn how to operate Linux... or go hook up my Commodore 64 and pretend this shit didn't happen.
On the linux topic: have you tried them recently? In the past, it was pretty much a "nerd's OS" (some distro's still are) but most of them (Ubuntu, Mint, Sabayon,...) offer a very compelling user interface, highly customisable (if you're into that, you don't have to (anymore)) and very functional "out of the box".Eric the Orange said:
The days of having to install mp3 codecs by hand are long over! You can usually just plug in your windows game cd and play the games using wine (a windows compatibility layer, not an emulator. Almost no performance hit). Installing new software with synaptic is a breeze; and all your software is kept up to date with a single click.
The only hurdle is getting the distro, putting it on a stick and doing the install. This seems to scare people, but it really oughtn't.
Linux these days is at least as convenient an OS as windows. The only hurdle is mentality, i guess.
The ARM version of Windows 8 already restricts you to software from the Windows Store. How long before they extend that restriction to the x86/x64 versions? That is what Gabe and Notch are objecting to
They're actually using the Directx and Direct3D stuff from Wine. And ReactOS is a lot less complete than you are making out. Even the x86 version is still very much Alpha software at this stage. Wine is still a better choice for running Windows software on a different platform.Mortons4ck said:
I agree, I'm not particularly interested in a constant feed of Notch quotes. Though he is right this time.koroem said:
Comments like this are uncalled for. I'm not a fan of Notch myself, but people could at least show a little courtesy.robert01 said:
That and ARM isn't the only thing that's being locked down. The windows 8 OS is not as a whole friendly to third-party developers. Having a centralised "app" store is just going to erode user freedom.
EA and Activision throwing their collective weight behind it, watch it tumble and burn..Sixcess said:
Windows 7 4 Lyfe Son!
I can see a clear divide forming between the loyalists (Win7/People with 1/2 a brain) and the overseers (Win8/Sheeple herd of app hungry homo-sapiens) - let the PC Civil War begin!ResonanceSD said: