Now it's Filesonic, the witch hunt was officialy begin.

[liveslowdiefast]

christ, they'll come of worse in the long run though, tv people that is. once people can't just 'check out a few episodes of a show online' less people will want to buy them if they really enjoy them and want a physical copy, for instance me with breaking bad. people don't want to invest £20 in a show they might not even enjoy.

 

[spartan231490]

I doubt this opinion will be seconded by even one person on this site, but I'm glad. Pirating needs to be stopped. Attacking pirates is pointless, you can't find them all, and there are too many ways for them to hide what they do. You have to attack the sites that provide them the files. Maybe these sites will finally put into place measures that at least do some small thing to prevent piracy. Probably not, but I can hope

 

[The Funslinger]

I think because it's a Swedish hosted website? The US has no jurisdiction over it.

Except megaupload was hosted in Hong Kong, and the US somehow had jurisdiction there (servers seized etc.)

I'm no expert on international law, but how can the FBI throw their weight around in New Zealand and Hong Kong like that?

I've no idea. I'm no expert either.

Maybe they just haven't gotten to Pirate Bay yet? Could be hesitation to interfere with Sweden's weird new piracy = religion thing. Probably because they don't really get what happened.

 

[wooty]

I think because it's a Swedish hosted website? The US has no jurisdiction over it.

Except megaupload was hosted in Hong Kong, and the US somehow had jurisdiction there (servers seized etc.)

I'm no expert on international law, but how can the FBI throw their weight around in New Zealand and Hong Kong like that?

You ever see the Dark Knight? Batman has no jurisdiction.

I'm still a bit annoyed, halfway through Fate/Zero and Shana III and they pull this......I hate waiting 3 years for licensing to come into effect.

 

[Meight08]

I think because it's a Swedish hosted website? The US has no jurisdiction over it.

Except megaupload was hosted in Hong Kong, and the US somehow had jurisdiction there (servers seized etc.)

I'm no expert on international law, but how can the FBI throw their weight around in New Zealand and Hong Kong like that?

there were a few servers in virginia i think and that made the susceptible to us laws.
atleast i heard that while lurking around here.

 

[Ariyura]

I think because it's a Swedish hosted website? The US has no jurisdiction over it.

Except megaupload was hosted in Hong Kong, and the US somehow had jurisdiction there (servers seized etc.)

I'm no expert on international law, but how can the FBI throw their weight around in New Zealand and Hong Kong like that?

I think I read in one of the articles that some of the servers were in Virginia and that gave them jurisdiction.

 

[TheDooD]

Sites that hold copyrighted material get taken down. Why is this a big deal? You want the content, pay for it.

OK what if said sites were used for sending out somebodies OWN products and or used to back up files. So what then, what if they didn't want to charge people for their product.

 

[Sandytimeman]

Doesn't Which hunt imply innocents on the part of the victim? The fact of the matter is megauploads was in the wrong on the way they made money off copyrighted content. Youtube doesn't give out partnerships to people who upload copyrighted content but thats basically what mega did.

Because Mega got caught doing things that were against the law, they have paid the price. These other services are just trying to keep their own nose clean. And thats cool by me.

 

[Kotaro]

I'm fine with taking down the copyright-infringing files.
But I (and many people I know) used these sites (well, Megaupload) for legitimate purposes.

 

[Xanthious]

I doubt this opinion will be seconded by even one person on this site, but I'm glad. Pirating needs to be stopped. Attacking pirates is pointless, you can't find them all, and there are too many ways for them to hide what they do. You have to attack the sites that provide them the files. Maybe these sites will finally put into place measures that at least do some small thing to prevent piracy. Probably not, but I can hope

Maybe this would have the smallest bit of anything that could possibly resemble an effect if these sites that are shutting themselves down were doing any meaningful amount of piracy. They aren't. I mean hell you may as well go bust my old neighbor that was selling dime bags of weed out of his house and declare that you've struck a major blow in the war on drugs.

The real sites, like Pirate Bay and their ilk are all still up and running and showing no signs of slowing down. Of course even if one of those sites did go down there are contingencies on top of contingencies on top of contingencies in place to keep the free flow of data going strong.

You see the major players in the piracy scene, for all their faults, are waaay more savvy than most people like to think. A long time ago the pirates learned that having a central point of operations is about the worst thing that could happen as far as their long term survival is concerned. As a result they decentralized to beat all hell and there really isn't a way to strike any major blow to them as it stands.

Bottom line, these sites getting scared and shutting themselves down in meaningless. Piracy won't be going anywhere anytime soon as the pirates are better prepared and far more clever than the people that are trying to stop them.

 

[Sandytimeman]

Sites that hold copyrighted material get taken down. Why is this a big deal? You want the content, pay for it.

OK what if said sites were used for sending out somebodies OWN products and or used to back up files. So what then, what if they didn't want to charge people for their product.

Note in the OP's topic that he said in the first file uploading site that you could only download files you upload personally. That seems fine to me there and their are dedicated sites for backups (also DVD's or Raid 1 for hard copy backups)

As far as distributing your own works, well that does get a bit trickier. I would suppose that if the demand is big enough a dedicated site will emerge that does just that. Hosts people's original works for distribution. That's how the free market works, if they can make money off it mind you.

Also I'm sure if they were looking for distribution money wise they could easily get on iTunes or Amazon. (shit I've had two different series of podcast on iTunes before)

 

[Makhiel]

Sites that hold copyrighted material get taken down. Why is this a big deal? You want the content, pay for it.

I don't know about others but I mostly download TV shows. As far as I am aware there is no legal way for me to be able to watch the next episode of, say, Fringe other than a) moving to US b) waiting a year or more while hoping that one of the local channels decides to buy the show and dub it.

eztv.it, and uTorrent. Works for me, EZTV are great uploaders, and they have all sorts of shows. Even that new Alcatraz series, which only has 2 episodes so far but seems to be worth watching. I feel your pain, but I wouldn't know what to do with myself without torrents - other than moving to the US, and putting up with an ad break every 5 minutes.

Thanks, I know where to go I was just pointing out that if there was a way to "pay for the content" I might do it but there simply isn't.

 

[GonvilleBromhead]

Sites that hold copyrighted material get taken down. Why is this a big deal? You want the content, pay for it.

OK what if said sites were used for sending out somebodies OWN products and or used to back up files. So what then, what if they didn't want to charge people for their product.

Then the site in question has to do everything in it's power to adhere to international copyright law, if it doesn't want to disappoint it's customers

 

[Staskala]

I doubt this opinion will be seconded by even one person on this site, but I'm glad. Pirating needs to be stopped. Attacking pirates is pointless, you can't find them all, and there are too many ways for them to hide what they do. You have to attack the sites that provide them the files. Maybe these sites will finally put into place measures that at least do some small thing to prevent piracy. Probably not, but I can hope

I've heard the line "Filehosters should do more against piracy" a lot these days and it strikes me as odd, because they have always been doing all they had to. By law they are only obliged to remove content once the copyright holder requests it and not a single hoster didn't follow these requests. That's really all there is to this, they did what the law demanded and no moral compass can fault them for not doing enough.
If a company follows the law it shouldn't have to face any repercussions from the government.

But even then, what else should they do? Check each and every file on their site? That would not only be expensive as hell but also illegal; a kin to a bank checking every safe deposit box under their jurisdiction to make sure no one hides any drugs or a post office opening every letter to look for threats. I wouldn't want a law where all my possessions - be they physical or virtual - can and will be searched without any reason for suspicion.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I think because it's a Swedish hosted website? The US has no jurisdiction over it.

Except megaupload was hosted in Hong Kong, and the US somehow had jurisdiction there (servers seized etc.)

I'm no expert on international law, but how can the FBI throw their weight around in New Zealand and Hong Kong like that?

I've no idea. I'm no expert either.

Maybe they just haven't gotten to Pirate Bay yet? Could be hesitation to interfere with Sweden's weird new piracy = religion thing. Probably because they don't really get what happened.

I'd suggest that a religion that's not good ol' Christianity just gives America another reason to attack that country, hell, being of another religion is effectively admitting to terrorism, surely?

To me it's not about law, it's about the FBI doing what the hell they like where they like, because the US is getting so many bribes from big business they can afford more guns than anyone else and it makes their pants feel fizzy.

I just think the US is lucky Europe's so fucked up, if more than two of the countries in Europe could get along for more than 5 minutes, the US might have someone who they'd have to consider a potential rival. Fortunately none of us like anyone who lives more than 10 miles away, never mind other countries with their funny hats and silly languages.

I do hope a thousand people sue for loss of content/earnings however after they lost access to legitimate files.

 

[Irridium]

Um, US government, remember Grokster vs. MGM? You CANNOT take down a P2P site/service unless it specifically advertizes the hosting of copyrighted material. And add in the Sony vs. Universal case, which says that you CANNOT take it down if some, or many, or most people decide to use them for copyright infringement, so long as there are perfectly lawful uses, they cannot be denied by EVERYONE just to go after the unlawful ones.

So, entertainment industry, fuck you. Fuck you hard. Maybe these people wouldn't pirate so god damn much if you actually released your shit in their countries in a timely matter, and not wait six months.

 

[Xanthious]

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But these sites aren't being shut down. THEY ARE SHUTTING THEMSELVES DOWN. The US has done fuck all outside of legally shutting down MegaUpload after a TWO YEAR investigation. Furthermore, MegaUpload was shut down for reasons beyond copyright violations. That place had all sorts of illegal stuff going on.

These other sites are simply acting like scared sheep and needlessly running for cover out of fear they will be next. This isn't the start of a war. This is just the US strategically timing the shut down of one site and as a result causing a bunch of other sites to wildly over react.

 

[Irridium]

Sites that hold copyrighted material get taken down. Why is this a big deal? You want the content, pay for it.

OK what if said sites were used for sending out somebodies OWN products and or used to back up files. So what then, what if they didn't want to charge people for their product.

Then the site in question has to do everything in it's power to adhere to international copyright law, if it doesn't want to disappoint it's customers

Or, in the US, simply having perfectly lawful uses should be enough to protect them, so long as they don't actively advertise copyright infringement as a primary use. See: Sony vs. Universal and Grokster vs. MGM. Taking these sites down in the US would violate Supreme Court rulings.

Pretty sure that's a big god damn deal and should not be happening.

 

[Manji187]

DDL scene is dead.

Consequence; adaptation. People move elsewhere for their fix or learn new methods.

The King is dead. Long live the King.

 

[ShindoL Shill]

Why, though, is the Pirate Bay still legal? Why is that a thing?

because its swedish, therefore outside US jurisdiction, and sweden is cool with pirates.

Sites that hold copyrighted material get taken down. Why is this a big deal? You want the content, pay for it.

oh ok. i'll just pay the people that upload minecraft mods and adventure maps to mediafire etc for them. that's much better.

Ok, it's time for the UK to step in and take over the US. Please? Hell, I'll leave the door unlocked for ya. Now all my anime and porn is getting cut off

we tried that before. then you called our monarch a shitlord[sup][citation needed][/sup] and shot us in the faces. personally, i think America was just a British plot to get rid of all the annoying-ass Puritans who were cramping our styles that got out of hand.