Oblivion is impossible!

[renegade7]

Roll a combat or magic class. Archery is a pain in Oblivion.

On a second note-STEAL EVERYTHING! Just master the lock-picking minigame (you actually don't need to level the skill to do this), go into any store at night (wear leather armor or something that gives a bonus to sneak) and it's a 'get anything you want free' card.

 

[Zeema]

If your gonna use Arrows get some Sneaky snake action goin

i love shooting with Arrows

 

[Nerfherder17]

Is this really worth making a thread on?

 

[LuckyClover95]

So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade. Why do people like this game? I think it will be the first game I give up on due to difficulty in years. Atleast I only spent $20 bucks on it.
Edit: Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. I was going to give another shot anyway, but for sure I'm going to lower the difficulty. Apparently archery sucks and or requires too much stratgie. I'll still to my blades and forget about archery all together. Does anyone know if there is a follower that could help me out this early?

I sort of get what your saying - I left the Oblivion gate, went off and did side quests before return many levels later. It is stupidly hard for a level 2 or 3. You should be getting experience though, don't know why you're not. And the combat is shit, every time I point that out to Oblivion nerds they avoid it. However, it is good, there are some excellent side misions, characters and general cities to do/meet/explore. I recommend you walk from city to city, as not only will you get more experience and money from the animals and highwaymen you meet there, but you might discover things on the way, like I discovered this little inn with loads of really weird characters like an invisible man, someone in insanely cool armour, loads of people. And the barmaid, also quite a character, gave me a new mission which I did and it got me experience and was a fun little thing to just encounter. Get into to the guilds like fighters and mages guild, and hopefully at some point you can get into what I consider the better ones, the secret ones of Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild. Also, I have a friend who literally only uses his bow, his fighting is all archery, so it can be done but it is difficult - especially since if he loses his bow his backup is melee, no swords or anything. Anyway, good luck - it is a fun game, although I admit I never finished the story, just got about halfway or three quarters way through and did a fuck load of side quests (also, when you're a higher level, check out the side quest with the ghost near Leyawin or the other southern town that I can't remember the name of. It's a slightly difficult but interesting quest. Have fun!

 

[infohippie]

Also, I have a friend who literally only uses his bow, his fighting is all archery, so it can be done but it is difficult - especially since if he loses his bow his backup is melee, no swords or anything.

That's what I do. Bow only, with the best poisons I can make and enchantment on my bow. My backup if the bow screws up is running like hell and sneaking back later for another try. I hate melee in Oblivion.

 

[Julianking93]

I think all of your complaints have been mentioned and addressed already.
The leveling can be fixed, but you have to work at it.
Health bars are those little things above the crosshairs but, does a health bar really matter?
And if you want something a bit more easy on a first time playthrough, go with the Dark Elf or Breton class and level the fuck out of your Destruction and Restoration skills.

If your gonna use Arrows get some Sneaky snake action goin

i love shooting with Arrows

I couldn't ever get into shooting arrows.
Always seemed too... well I know this is a bit of a problem on my part, but difficult.
Couldn't ever hit anything and the damage it did was practically nothing unless used on something weaker than an ant >.>

And... weird. I just realised I've quoted you twice in like 5 minutes

 

[Chizambers]

I screwed up my first time playing the game. I level my character to like level 8 before doing the first Oblivion gate. Unfortunately he had no combat skills at all.. it was all alchemy, speechcraft, mercantile athletics,and security. I couldn't kill the enemies at the first Oblivion Gate with my non combat skills.

Had to restart with a new character.
Didn't beat the game until my 3rd time trying to play it.

 

[Bobbity]

Enemies do have health bars, you do get experience, and turn the difficulty down heaps while you're getting used to the combat. It worked for me.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade.

Believe it or not, not every game needs health bars! Truth be told, they are there, you just don't see them. The leveling system is like morrowind (but simpler) and works well. You choose your major skills which you'll use most and every time they go up 10 combined, you level and get stat points. If your minor skills also went up, they increase stat bonuses for relevant stats. It rewards you for working your chosen skills but doesn't preclude you from using any others.

One criticism of Oblivion you hadn't even mentioned is the enemy scaling (you will later). Enemies are always on par with you anywhere in the game. I beat the Imperial arena by lvl 5 if I remember rightly. Saying that, being lvl 4 you don't have the super weapons/armors yet, nor the spells, health, skills, etc. Seriously, play the game and level a little. I highly recommend doing all the guilds (Fighters, Mages, Assassins, Thieves). They not only give unique, powerful rewards, you also get followers (nameless underlings of whatever guild you're leader of), income, fame and some of the finest quests in any game.

The Daedric Shrine quests are also fantastic. As well as incredible rewards like Azura's Star, Skeleton Key, Goldbrand and Ring of Khajit. Sheogorath's in particular is great fun but the Assassin's guild quests are really something else. One I consider to be one of the greatest game quests ever devised sees you put into a locked house with 6 people for a bit of murder-mystery, emphasis on the murder! I shan't spoil it for you but really urge you to join that guild. The characters you meet in it are completely twisted, the end reward is very cool and you have the opportunity to turn vampire if you so choose.

If you're finding it unpleasantly hard, turn the difficulty down a notch till later. I assure you by the time you're level 20-25ish you'll be slaying daedra with almost impunity. And for archery, it's not really very effective until higher skills levels and when combined with sneak. Eventually you'd be able to zoom right in, headshot/one-hit kill most normal enemies while sneaking.

 

[Kurokami]

So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade. Why do people like this game? I think it will be the first game I give up on due to difficulty in years. Atleast I only spent $20 bucks on it.
Edit: Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. I was going to give another shot anyway, but for sure I'm going to lower the difficulty. Apparently archery sucks and or requires too much stratgie. I'll still to my blades and forget about archery all together. Does anyone know if there is a follower that could help me out this early?

The problem is that your thinking seems to be "leveling = good", in oblivion it isn't really, I mean it's nice every once in a while when you're having an easy time, but really you want to level up at a normal pace. It's stupid, but oh well.

Enemies do have health bars, it's that half circle on top of your cursor that mysteriously goes down (however little by) whenever you hurt an enemy. The game, I find anyhow, is significantly easier if you choose to be a mage. Regardless it's often better to choose your class to work against what you're hoping to use as it will decrease the frequency of your leveling and allow you to proceed at an easier pace (though leveling up the skills you want will be slightly more of a *****)

Oh, and I suggest forgetting about the main story and just going ahead and joiniing up the Mage's Guild or Dark Brotherhood ASAP. (The Dark Brotherhood was probably the best part of the game for me, the mages guild was awesome the first time I experienced it as well, I quite liked the lectures, but I recommend it mostly because it allows for custom spells and enchantments.)

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

...Is this...is it real?

1. The enemies have health bars, it's that curved line above your crosshairs.

2. You level up from your class' main skills. Select something with the skills you intend to actually use as primary skills. It's not experience for killing things, since when does bashing a dude to death teach you how to raise the dead? It's how often you use the skill that levels it up.

3. Bows and arrows are recognised to be the trickiest weapons. If you want a cakewalk load up a mage.

Well, that's that thread done.

What will you do next, Master of Pointing Out Things That Should be Obvious but Apparently Aren't to Everyone Man?

 

[the_honey_badger]

You don't actually have to go to Kvatch yet. Do some side quests and develop your character a bit.

 

[TriggerHappyAngel]

Lol, I'm one of the few people who loves vanilla Oblivion I guess.

I hate the mods.

I am with you man, some people make it sound as if Oblivion without mods is a crappy game.

OT: listen to the people here and then try again, Oblivion is freakin' awesome.

 

[zauxz]

You don't actually have to go to Kvatch yet. Do some side quests and develop your character a bit.

...Which will do absolutelly no good, since Oblivion has the stupid level scaling system. The higher level you are, the tougher are your enemies.

In other words, leveling up, developing your character is pointless. You can pretty much beat the game as a level 2 fighter with that kick ass suit of rusty iron armor.

Anywho, OT. As pretty much everyone said, all you need to do, is reduce the difficulty. I find it hard to even comprihend how it wasn't self explanatory.

 

[michael_ab]

So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade. Why do people like this game? I think it will be the first game I give up on due to difficulty in years. Atleast I only spent $20 bucks on it.
Edit: Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. I was going to give another shot anyway, but for sure I'm going to lower the difficulty. Apparently archery sucks and or requires too much stratgie. I'll still to my blades and forget about archery all together. Does anyone know if there is a follower that could help me out this early?

first things first, turn down the difficulty a tad, 1/4 should be fine. and make a new charactor, this time think about how your going to play, are you going to be a sneaky theif? melee warrior? or arcane mage? or some mix in between? i usually do an arcane theif, use my theify skills to maintain mobility, use my magic to kill and to enchant (if you do it right you can get 271 speed all the time). the game is MUCH eaisier if you plan ahead a bit, choose what your going to be, then stick with those skills. and no one mentioned this DONT DO THE MAIN QUEST. you can seriously just avoid it and dick around for the whole game. i was level 40 before i went to kvatch. i played this game for 400 hours on one charactor, and i had like 5 more with similar times, if you need any help just ask, i love talking about this game.

 

[michael_ab]

i didnt say my console was "better", i said play the fucking game instead of making your own.
i have only ever encountered 2 bugs in my gotye.
1) SOMETIMES after playing for a LONG time it crashes. This is Rare.
2) when i get the mask of clavicius vile it crashes. This is avoidable

with mods you can change the music, combat, weapons,and so many other things its just not the same game. but it wasnt meant to be played that way.

Play the game bethesda gave you. if you dont like it dont play it

this game is insanely buggy, its true. mods can improve gameplay because they let the players fix the game after the developer has lost interest, and in fact on the pc bethesda actually kept updating the game long after they left the console version alone.

when YOU get the clavicius vile helm it crashes, this is not supposed to happen, i think it may be a problem with your disk or console, i had the same problem but i got it fixed

captcha: far cressame

 

[the_honey_badger]

You don't actually have to go to Kvatch yet. Do some side quests and develop your character a bit.

...Which will do absolutelly no good, since Oblivion has the stupid level scaling system. The higher level you are, the tougher are your enemies.

In other words, leveling up, developing your character is pointless. You can pretty much beat the game as a level 2 fighter with that kick ass suit of rusty iron armor.

Anywho, OT. As pretty much everyone said, all you need to do, is reduce the difficulty. I find it hard to even comprihend how it wasn't self explanatory.

I know that the enemies level with you, but I'm pretty sure that you'll find it easier to get better weapons/spells etc. which give you the edge over others.

I know that I was always killed by an imp at level 1, when you came out of the sewers. But I don't find myself being killed by an imp at level 10.

 

[baddude1337]

And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it.

Yeah the Oblivion gates are a right ***** at early levels. I tried for hours on the first one then gave up and went out to level up. Came back and it was pretty easy, especially now I better understood the mechanics of the game.

Now I've sunk about 350 hours into my one Oblivion Character and nothing can touch me. Especially in my Knights of the Nine gear and weapons with my summon Daedroth spell.

 

[Mungular]

you keep getting your ass kicked because the enemies lvl up with you. this killed the game for me, but i figure ill give it another go before skyrim come out

 

[Sebenko]

Stop playing that god awful Oblivion.

Play FO3 if you want combat (with some combat mods, of course). Play Morrowind if you want it to be worth bothering going over the next hill.