I'd have to double check, but I believe sigil is back in 4e.tehroc said:Planescape is a long discontinued product. 3.5 Edition, a new "center of the multiverse" was created in the Epic Level Handbook, of course that product is also discontinued. No clue on what's going on with 4th Edition.
So is Bioware, but there are just some games that should be left alone.coldalarm said:You seem to forget that Obsidian is mostly Black Isle devs.The Zango said:Nooo! A Planescape sequel or something else set in that universe would be fine, but please let it be made by a competent studio, anyone. Anyone! But Obsidian.
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said:As it goes, a Spelljammer game wouldn't go amiss, given the previous efforts in that regard have gone to piss. Giant space hamsters? Corpses of floating gods used as cities? Vile Githyanki? Why, it'd be Mass Effect with a distinctly DnD flavor.
Aww man, they discontinued Planescape! Sigil was awesome, and that creepy lady of pain, great. Was there some kind of continuity as to why sigil dissappeared, or did they just drop it? I think D&D must suck these days.tehroc said:Planescape is a long discontinued product. 3.5 Edition, a new "center of the multiverse" was created in the Epic Level Handbook, of course that product is also discontinued. No clue on what's going on with 4th Edition.
Blame the WOC takeover. They wanted to streamline the game line, so the "weird" settings like Planescape and Spelljammer got dropped with 3rd Ed, to focus only on the dungeons and the dragons (the bog standard discount Tolkien setting).McShizzle said:Aww man, they discontinued Planescape! Sigil was awesome, and that creepy lady of pain, great. Was there some kind of continuity as to why sigil dissappeared, or did they just drop it? I think D&D must suck these days.tehroc said:Planescape is a long discontinued product. 3.5 Edition, a new "center of the multiverse" was created in the Epic Level Handbook, of course that product is also discontinued. No clue on what's going on with 4th Edition.
I agree(!).Warachia said:So is Bioware, but there are just some games that should be left alone.coldalarm said:You seem to forget that Obsidian is mostly Black Isle devs.The Zango said:Nooo! A Planescape sequel or something else set in that universe would be fine, but please let it be made by a competent studio, anyone. Anyone! But Obsidian.
Not really, no. Unless Bioware picked up Troika's staff...Warachia said:So is Bioware, but there are just some games that should be left alone.coldalarm said:You seem to forget that Obsidian is mostly Black Isle devs.The Zango said:Nooo! A Planescape sequel or something else set in that universe would be fine, but please let it be made by a competent studio, anyone. Anyone! But Obsidian.