Obsidian Does it Again

[Rockdrake]

Well my companion Veronica just bugged out after her main quest line(just stands in the same spot forever) that was fixable by going to Gibson's shack and downloading the data again although it did certainly ruin the immersion afterwords. I also lost five hours worth of saves before that. My game crashes constantly even after I've updated all my drivers. Don't even get me started on random events and gambling.

This is absolutely the same shit I dealt with KOTOR II my god that game was buggy even after I got a brand new PC and downloaded all the new patches I really HATED that game. I will blame Obsidian for this because of the track record they've had with these games. I will not however ask for my money back because of the well told story within it. Even though it may push me down and break my teeth I will not give up on this game because it draws me in so much better than Fallout 3 even if some of the immersion is broken. The only thing I hope for now is that the ending being well thought out(that may be to much to ask from obsidian though).

 

[Delusibeta]

It's interesting how Obsidian managed to get a hatedom that Bethesda doesn't have, outside of No Mutants Allowed.

 

[Jesus Phish]

Eh it's a bethesda open world game. They are always super glitchy when they first come out.

The only glitches ive seen are the fucking deathclaws >.> oh wait, thats obsidian being retarded i hate deathclaws so....

Oh i copletely agree.

Obsidian dev: I know let's make it so that Deathclaws have a million health are armored and can kill you in one swipe.

Obsidian dev2: That's brilliant and lets have them be grouped upall together so that you have to fight 10 of them at the same time.

So Deathclaws are back to how they were in Fallout 1 and 2? Things that were meant to be feared beyond anything else.

Sounds good to me!

I like Obsidians games. I liked KOTOR2 and NWN2 alot. I bought them about a year after they were released and thus had alot of bug fixes (shame about the ending of KOTOR2 but it was rushed by LA). So I'll do the same for FNV. In a years time when I'm ready to play it, it'll be great.

 

[yourbeliefs]

Very interesting read. I played Fallout 3 and really enjoyed my time with it WHEN IT WORKED. Sadly, the multitude of bugs eventually pushed me away, and I do feel bad that I had to turn my back on such an engrossing experience. I had put NV in my Gamefly queue which is usually a lock, but for whatever reason it didn't ship out and probably won't for a while. After reading that this game was even more plagued by the same things that pushed me away from 3, I'm not so bummed that it didn't ship out. As a former programmer (I say former because my dickhead boss fired me because nepotism is a good way to run a business) I sympathize with these game developers, but a simple thing like the save issue is really inexcusable.

 

[nipsen]

It's interesting how Obsidian managed to get a hatedom that Bethesda doesn't have, outside of No Mutants Allowed.

Not really interesting.. it's just telling, that somehow "everyone" (who is anyone, I guess) agrees that the most heavy advertisers:

1. never release buggy games.
2. always get positive slants on their news-items.
3. never produce a game that rates lower than 8.

 

[hawk533]

I found the same sort of problem with the release of Civilization V. Rampant CTDs and silly errors that anyone could have spotted. Ridiculous AI issues, pathfinding errors and game mechanics that don't work as intended. They're working on fixing them, but I'm convinced now that buying PC software on day 1 is like signing up to be a paying beta tester.

 

[MrJoyless]

the only issue ive ever had with either fallout 3 or new vegas was the buggy as hell operation anchorage and "the Pitt" the DLCs for FO3 just seemed a bit less polished than necessary.

 

[poiuppx]

Eh it's a bethesda open world game. They are always super glitchy when they first come out.

Quoted for an amazing level of truth. C'mon, folks. If you ever bought a Bethesda game before, you knew what you were getting yourself into here. It's the price of admission. One I happily am paying while I enjoy wandering the Mojave Wastes. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta go hunting for star caps.

 

[Continuity]

Any ambitious sandbox RPG is bound to be riddled with bugs when it releases, so long as they make good by patching everything in a reasonable time frame then its all good by me.

 

[PrinceofPersia]

Well there is one game I'll never buy now. I hated KOTOR 2 and NWN 2 made me swear off D&D video games.

 

[Ensiferum]

I have to disagree with a lot of the vitriol directed towards Obsidian. I for one LOVED Kotor 2 and NWN2 and when playing through both of those games (on the PC mind you) didn't experience the level of bugginess that most people seem to suffer through while playing them. I admit there were a few bugs but that's to be expected in any massive rpg. Was the original NWN, Oblivion or Fallout 3 without bugs during their initial releases? Not Hardly. I wouldn't expect differently from New Vegas.

I hate dealing with bugs in RPGs as much as anyone, and I'll admit the stories in Obsidians' sequels are often weaker then their predecessors, but the gameplay is always great overall and if there's one thing I've learned is it's that massive RPGs like these take some patience. Yeah it might mean waiting a week or two for a patch but it's usually worth it in the end, especially when there's such a huge modding community out there that give you way more then your 50-60 bucks worth that you spent on the vanilla game.

 

[CrustyOatmeal]

i really havent encountered too many glitches except for one that is really pissing me off. every time i want to use a computer i have to hold down the action button in order to keep the screen up. so if i want to hack a computer i have to hold down "B" (my action button) nd then cycle through the commands and press "A" while still holding down "B". im not connected to live (i live in the mountains so its not an option) so i dont know if the patch fixed this

new vegas is a great game but the only thing wrong with it is all of the bugs. i dont regret my purchase but i do get agitated with the game for all of the bugs. then again, i would rather have a great game with a ton of bugs than a crappy game with no bugs at all

 

[HK_01]

It's funny how many people support Obsidian even after all these buggy games.

 

[Necromancer1991]

Ok so aside from the bugs, did you like the game, I'm not kidding, you see for some reason everybody and their grandma seem to think just because of some bugs (severity notwithstanding), that the game sucks, but from my experience it works perfectly (aside from the bugs obviously), the story is simple sure, but it works, the game's sense of humor is spot on, from what I've played of the original Fallouts (Best $20 I've spent on steam so far, sides from TF2). I'm not saying that all of their work was AAA-material, KOTOR2 was admittedly trying too hard plot-wise and ended up falling flat, Alpha wasn't helped by the pretentious main character, but overall New Vegas is a fun game.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

I knew Obsidian were second-rate (at best) after KoToR 2, but releasing games with this many bugs, and bugs this OBVIOUS, is completely unacceptable. This is a high-profile game, there should be plenty of budget to hire additional testers.

Thank god I wasn't interested in New Vegas after being bored to tears by FO3.

 

[ChupathingyX]

It's okay to like the others better, just don't do it because you think they are realistic.

I don't prefer the others because they're more realistic, I prefer them because they explain things better, give you more background lore and just generally give you more options. Being forced to help the Knights-in-shining-armour BoS was a dumb move as they were never a major faction. Also I'm not saying radiation mutation and FEV is realistic, just that it isn't a "do-anything" tool. There is a limit.

Also remember the Fallout series is based in a 1940/50's world, so things like giant ants, mutants and ghouls are what people thought would happen and was featured in movies, that's why they're in the game. Fallout 3 barely introduced anything new. and the things that were introduced were either given weird storylines or little backstory, or were shown in a bad way. Also Mothership Zeta crossed the line into stupidity.

Also about the game example I used, all I was saying was that why have a game where you can only use melee weapons, when there are guns lying around. It makes more sense. How did a bunch of settlers manage to create an entire city by tearing down an airfield, yet they don't know how to build a well? Which they could use to find clean water. I mean seriously it's been 200 years since the bombs fell, people in D.C must be pretty lazy compared to California who managed to create a thriving city with 300,000 members and fully working government in a shorter time? Not to mention wells and agriculture.

 

[infinity_turtles]

I've spent more time with New Vegas than I have with Fallout 3 so far, and have encountered less bugs. I don't know if that's more common than the opposite, but I don't really care. I've also enjoyed every bit of New Vegas more. So yeah, thumbs up to Obsidian. They more or less delivered the game I expected. Was hoping for some more companions, but whatever. Also love the way it so blatantly ignores the changes Bethesda's version tried to make to the lore.

Also, you haven't played Mask of the Betrayer? You poor soul...

 

[Mythiii]

Well I still can't use VATS without getting the infamous blue screen of death, so yeah..

 

[asinann]

Never seen anyone so quick to dismiss Neverwinter Nights 2 and Mask of the Betrayer. It had rough edges, yes, but it was hardly "broken."

You didn't try to play it through the first 7 patches then did you? You had to run Daemon tools or a crack to play the game because it wouldn't read the CD and hence, wouldn't start. It took them 5 patches to fix that one.

On another note, neither Fallout 3 or Fallout NV will let me play in my monitor's native resolution of 1920x1080. In fact, if I try taking it above 1280x720 letterbox the game crashes every time it tries to load.

 

[Knight Templar]

I read this and thought, "no issues for me yet".
Now I've had people and followers fall into the ground or out of existence, and load times get longer and longer the more areas I move into.