Obsidian Teases a New RPG
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I got to ask what KOTOR 2 did you play? The KOTOR 2 I played hadMcoffey said:
-more bugs
-A unfinished plot
-Tons unfinished gameplay mechanic
KOTOR 2 was all around worse then KOTOR 1 from all stand points from writing to technical.
As for NWN, Hordes of the Underdark, and Shadow of the Undrentide, blow NWN2, and Mask of the Betrayer, out of the water in terms of plot
I will admit Fallout New Vegas may have had a better plot then Fallout 3, but in terms of its world, Fallout 3 is vastly superior, not to mention Fallout 3 was actually playable, unlike New Vegas which to this day still CTDs every hour without the unofficial patch. Being able to write a better story mans nothing if your players cant experience the story, which you really cant without mods. New Vegas may have been more true to the Fallout series in its portrayal of the Fallout world, but overall, Fallout 3 was the better game.
At least there are a few sane people left who can see how bad Obsidian is apparently.Kair said:
Maybe it's your system because I've never had a problem with Fallout NV CTD. Unless I alt tab while full screen which isn't exactly unheard of...SajuukKhar said:
I think Fallout NV was way better than Fallout 3 I mean even the ex pacs alone, the only problem I have is that it's too easy and the Hardcore mode would have worked better in Fallout 3 due to resource scarcity.
I think Fallout NV was truer to the originals than Fallout 3, it even follows the lore of the originals whereas F3 poos all over it.
JE Sawyer even made a free mod to make the game more challenging, that's hardly the actions of a dev who doesn't care.
god I´m all for a Arcanum 2. I know I might get flak for this, but it be sweet if a new Arcanum game got the same genre shift as the Fallout series got when Beth picked up the license.Moonlight Butterfly said:Some people saying it's Arcanum 2...if it was that would be hilarious because guess what I tweeted J.E Sawyer earlier this year xD 'Wouldn't it be great if someone made a sequel to Arcanum'So I will be in hysterics if it is. The mysterious talk of leaden keys and craters could be to do with the fate of the dwarves.
There is also this...
Hey...a girl can dream :3
They certainly aren't revealing anything with those phrases. Nothing seems to lead back to anything else. Even typing Dyrwood into google comes up with sod all :|
Otherwise I'm kind of hoping it's a new IP without any dragons or elves in it. or zombies.
I know right. I would love it.remmus said:god I´m all for a Arcanum 2. I know I might get flak for this, but it be sweet if a new Arcanum game got the same genre shift as the Fallout series got when Beth picked up the license.Moonlight Butterfly said:Some people saying it's Arcanum 2...if it was that would be hilarious because guess what I tweeted J.E Sawyer earlier this year xD 'Wouldn't it be great if someone made a sequel to Arcanum'
There is also this...
Hey...a girl can dream :3
They certainly aren't revealing anything with those phrases. Nothing seems to lead back to anything else. Even typing Dyrwood into google comes up with sod all :|
Otherwise I'm kind of hoping it's a new IP without any dragons or elves in it. or zombies.
As for that last bit I agree with you, although I'm pretty sure that will incite rage from others haha.
A Steampunk wrpg...it's...so..so beautiful.
Well, the first Neverwinter Nights was even more shitty with regards to story so it wasn't really hard to top that one.SajuukKhar said:
New Vegas was better than Fallout 3 by virtue of actually having a decent story and a world that at least tried to make sense. Is it better than the first 2 games? I don't know. It's probably not better than the first one, but Fallout 2 was a bit of a confused mess so I'd argue that New Vegas is roughly on par with that one, even if Fallout 2 benefits from being more mechanically interesting.
KotOR 2 broke the mold of Star Wars games and introduced Kreia, one of the most interesting companions/foes in games so far. It also, happily, ditched Biowares godawful romances. While the ending indeed is a mess the game overall is a lot more interesting than the first one.
With regards to bugs, aside from some weirdness in KotOR 2 (that might have been mod related) I've seen very few bugs in those games, and certainly less than I saw when playing Fallout 3. And honestly, Fallout 2 was so buggy that it wasn't even funny.
You know, I've played the entire Neverwinter Nights 2 original campagin atleast three times, and Mask of the Betrayer twice. I could barely get through the original Neverwinter Nights campagin and found Tide of the Underdark, good, but not terribly memorable.Moonlight Butterfly said:
So, I found Obsidian's story far more interesting. Sure the King of Shadows was stupid look rabbit/dark lord, but the companions made the game great (not Casavir or Elanee), the biggest shame was that they cut the Neeshka and Bishop romances.
Mask of the Betrayer was a bloody masterpiece. The story was great, the designs were beautiful, the companions was well-written and even the soundtrack was bloody awesome.
Should Obsidian keep the standard of writing that they had for NWN2, KotOR 2 and FO:NV, while fixing their... 'polishing' issues (aswell as finishing the damn game), they would, quite easily become my favortie developer.
That said, I still play Neverwinter Nights 1. Sure the campagins were meh, but the online servers are still great.
Desinty and RPG's go hadn in hand.electric method said:
No the reason its not WOT is because.
A) I believe EA has those rights atm. (Not sure, some pruducer kind of does) And Red Eagle Entertainment, a crappy buisness in the practice we've seen so often here, simply bought the rights, did nothing with them, in opes someone will buy them off of them.
There IS supposedly a Movie & A game in the works though.
B) THe text given so far, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the wheel of time. And the oroborous? Its supposed to be wrapped around a wheel, not on its own. Declining Popularity? Its finally releasing its final Book January 2013. Its going to spike hard core this year, even those who read it years ago, and lost interest, will read it. Just because your own local store throws it into the bargain bin not long after, doesn't mean others do. I've seen stores keep those books on the shelves (replacing the ones bought as soon they are) for months, even keeping them up while the paperbacks go up for sale.
So.. yea, The series isn't as deflated as you think it is. Its going to only grow in the coming months, before finally waning out.
And there is a game in the works. Just not by Obsidian.
This could be a Dragon Age though. Sounds like something in their world.
And for those of you who don't realize it. Dragon Age is baisclaly Neverwinter Nights. Only with sex.
Oh please do not be a Wheel of Time RPG.
Wheel of Time was not designed for a game. Channelers are absolutely broken mechanically. If you're going by the lore situation, situations involving them are far too binary.
For instance: When encountering a channeler, are you a channeler yourself:
If no: Can they channel where and when they are? If no, hope that they're not also equally skilled with other forms of defense. If yes, are they eliminated before you're noticed? If yes, you win. If no, do you have several thousand others with you? If yes, you might survive. If no, you lose.
If yes: Are you stronger than them? If yes, shield them and instantly overpower them. If no, they shield and instantly overpower you.
Mistborn on the other hand...
Personally I'm hoping that it's a White Wolf based system. It's yet to disappoint. Perhaps Changeling or Geist. The atmospheres of those particular groups actually really appeal to me.
Wheel of Time was not designed for a game. Channelers are absolutely broken mechanically. If you're going by the lore situation, situations involving them are far too binary.
For instance: When encountering a channeler, are you a channeler yourself:
If no: Can they channel where and when they are? If no, hope that they're not also equally skilled with other forms of defense. If yes, are they eliminated before you're noticed? If yes, you win. If no, do you have several thousand others with you? If yes, you might survive. If no, you lose.
If yes: Are you stronger than them? If yes, shield them and instantly overpower them. If no, they shield and instantly overpower you.
Mistborn on the other hand...
Neverwinter Night's official campaign was terrible. The reason that it's so good (still relatively popular even now) is because of the easily accessible toolset that allows people to create their own modules.SinisterDeath said:
Personally I'm hoping that it's a White Wolf based system. It's yet to disappoint. Perhaps Changeling or Geist. The atmospheres of those particular groups actually really appeal to me.
I liked Alpha Protocol too. Sega says they'll never okay a sequel though.Kurt Cristal said:
That said, I'd LOVE it if Obsidian would develop another modern-day spy/stealth RPG, learning from their mistakes in AP (I liked AP, it did have flaws, however) and also from the things in it they did well (interesting stealth gameplay, the dialogue system).
Unfortunately, all the jargon in these teasers highly suggests it's going to be a fantasy game. I know that because it's from Obsidian, it will probably be a GOOD fantasy game, but I'd rather something different.
You realize many of the key creative team from Black Isle, who made Fallout 1 and 2, are also on the key creative team for Obsidian, right? Obsidian is what Black Isle became after Interplay tanked. So if even if you didn't like New Vegas, if you liked Fallout 1 and 2, then you enjoyed an Obsidian/Black Isle game. Just FYI.SajuukKhar said:
I'd give my left boob to play an awesome RPG set in Ancient Egypt or a game set around the Tigris and Euphrates BCE. Oh the possibilities.omicron1 said: