Ocean's Eleven female spin-off

[SupahEwok]

Since no one else asked, I will. Why eight? Is it because the traditional shape of a woman is the figure 8?

The main appeal of the Ocean's movies are the chemistry of the actors who are friends with each other in real life. Right off the bat, this new cast missed the point of the IP that they are going to remake. I am not going to claim that it can't be a good movie. The rationale for the casting is the same one that had for Ghostbusters. It's a pointless gimmick to get people talking about it both positively and negatively.

Trilogy. First trilogy was 11, 12, 13. Started with 11 cuz that was the number of folks doing the heist. A new movie after a decade would want to call back to that. 14 would be too expensive/unweildy a cast for a first movie. Ergo, they'll start now with 8, with the hope of a 9 and 10 down the road.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

Okay, the next in line to crash and burn horribly. Just line up, there are enough movies and games doing the same right now.

Another 20 bucks i save, that's also nice.

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

Well Anne Hathaway is cool. Still, I doubt I'll watch it. I saw the Ocean's 11 remake back in... whenever it was released? I wanna guess 1999 or something but that's probably not right.

Then I didn't bother with the next two.

 

[dreng3]

Well Anne Hathaway is cool. Still, I doubt I'll watch it. I saw the Ocean's 11 remake back in... whenever it was released? I wanna guess 1999 or something but that's probably not right.

Then I didn't bother with the next two.

You are off by about two years, 2001, at first I recalled it being earlier as well, no idea why, perhaps it's because old school con movies are just a thing of the past, and I'm talking about the con movies that doesn't rely on unrealistic physics or flashy gimmicks, looking at you Now You See Me 2.

 

[Vykrel]

honestly, if i were a woman being eyed for this film i would steer clear just to avoid the inevitable backlash... it just isnt worth it.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

As long as the movie is good, I don't give a damn what gender anyone is.

Hopefully it turns out alright.

 

[mysecondlife]

Not bad of a cast.... LOL RHIANNA. Never mind everything I said.

But really... I don't see any reason why it couldn't work. I remember that I really enjoyed the South Park's spoof of Ocean's 11 and 2008 Presidential Election between Obama and McCain. So if anything, I hope they do something similar there.

 

[Silvanus]

Has Ghostbusters taught them nothing? I wouldn't mind a female lead, I wouldn't mind a majority female cast, but an all female cast just screams 'look at me, I'm being progressive'.

Why? Hundreds upon hundreds of films have all-male casts of protagonists, and nobody bats an eyelid!

There's no problem inherent in the concept. Issues (might) arise in execution, which seems to be what happened in Ghostbusters.

 

[Bobular]

Has Ghostbusters taught them nothing? I wouldn't mind a female lead, I wouldn't mind a majority female cast, but an all female cast just screams 'look at me, I'm being progressive'.

Why? Hundreds upon hundreds of films have all-male casts of protagonists, and nobody bats an eyelid!

There's no problem inherent in the concept. Issues (might) arise in execution, which seems to be what happened in Ghostbusters.

I actually said that its the same problem as if they had an all male cast

With eight main cast and not a single male there is no excuse it just seems to be sexism the other way, an all female cast is no better than an all male cast they are both just different sides of the same coin.

And I believe these days an all male cast would cause outcry, especially when you have 8 main cast members (though unfortunately it wouldn't be as much as an all female cast will generate). As I said I wouldn't mind if it was a mostly female cast, say 5 or 6 of the 8, but this just seems to go too far the other way and comes back out as being sexist again. Whether the movie will actually be entertaining is another matter but I'll reserve judgment on that until I see a trailer or two.

 

[Silvanus]

I actually said that its the same problem as if they had an all male cast

Aye, but ascribe rather different motivations in both cases, which is what I'm questioning.

 

[Lykosia_v1legacy]

If they're respectful to the franchise and it's fanbase I don't see a problem there. That was the problem with Ghostbusters. They did almost everything they could to alienate fanbase of the franchise. Of course it failed.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Okey dokey.

If you can refrain from slapping me in the face with hammy girl-power messaging I might enjoy it. Awaiting trailer.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

honestly, if i were a woman being eyed for this film i would steer clear just to avoid the inevitable backlash... it just isnt worth it.

Doubt there's gonna be much backlash here. Putting aside the fact that the Ocean's movies weren't cultural icons and don't have much weight at all to their names (Two shitastic sequels will do that), there's also the fact that this is a spinoff and NOT a reboot.

 

[Vykrel]

honestly, if i were a woman being eyed for this film i would steer clear just to avoid the inevitable backlash... it just isnt worth it.

Doubt there's gonna be much backlash here. Putting aside the fact that the Ocean's movies weren't cultural icons and don't have much weight at all to their names (Two shitastic sequels will do that), there's also the fact that this is a spinoff and NOT a reboot.

i dont think the guys responsible for these ridiculous controversies are going to take any of that into account. they probably dont even know that Soderbergh's Ocean's Eleven was a remake.

maybe im wrong, but i can totally see the first teaser/trailer for this film getting like 50% dislikes regardless of whether or not it looks bad.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

i dont think the guys responsible for these ridiculous controversies are going to take any of that into account.

Wait, Paul Feig, Amy Pascal, and Melissa Mccarthy are gonna be involved with this movie?

 

[The Almighty Aardvark]

Has Ghostbusters taught them nothing? I wouldn't mind a female lead, I wouldn't mind a majority female cast, but an all female cast just screams 'look at me, I'm being progressive'. With eight main cast and not a single male there is no excuse it just seems to be sexism the other way, an all female cast is no better than an all male cast they are both just different sides of the same coin.

The biggest difference is that barely anyone notices when there's an all male cast (or 90% male). It's the norm, yet an all female cast is still considered something very exceptional, and will make people assume that there's some sort of statement being made.

I don't doubt that the main reason that people are even able to make movies with all female casts is by coasting on the public interest in "progressiveness", but it just means that we're in a time period where they can actually try something like that. Hopefully when all the fervor dies down it will be considered something more normal and someone won't have to jump through a series of hoops to have either gender comprise the majority of the cast.

 

[Fallow]

As long as they don't take the Paul Feig route and start insulting the audience (and their parents) it could be a passable (though not too interesting) movie.


Bullock is an excellent choice for a middle-of-the-road swashbuckler, and Helena Bonham Carter is kind of the female Johnny Depp. Hathaway and Catie are likely too boring to bring anything interesting to a lightweight, charm-based heistscene and then there's ....

Spoiler: Rihanna?

I don't know what kind of cocaine-induced festivity preceded that decision, but it must have been a good one.



Hmm, this might be more fun if they cast everyone as a woman, including all the bad guys and everything. Just making it a movie about women, with women jokes and women thoughts and all. No bashing, no battle of the sexes, just a movie that appeals to women, thinks like women, and is all about the heist stuff.

 

[Laughing Man]

What reason is there that it couldn't work?

Rihanna? Seriously you telling me there is such a dearth of female talent in Hollywood that they had to roll out that chart bothering polluter of the air waves?

 

[RanD00M]

I see no problem with it, but it does feel pandering. Whether it will be good or not, only time can tell, but here's hoping.
You'd think though with all the talk of equality they'd have just that, equal parts, instead of ONLY men or ONLY women.

Never saw the original Ocean's movie, never saw the remake series with Clooney and Pitt, won't see this one. Don't care about heist movies, never will. So they can make new ones of it with whomever they want, I have zero stake in this franchise.

What great insight you have brought into this discussion.

 

[American Fox]

Didn't John Muhlaney make an awesome bit about how this wouldn't work?