Ok, Bioware you're *somewhat* forgiven
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If a planet sized, talking, pink elephant called Andy and his transvestite pixie lover Alan had appeared and killed all the reapers with a duet of I would walk 500 miles by The Proclaimers, that would have made more sense than the three different endings, that all end the same, that we were given.way2sl0w said:
To clarify Ending is senseless. It won't have been that much of problem if it was sad or unwinable.
After playing for hours the triology (and reading the books) It leaves with the feeling What the **** just happened.
Mass effect 1 and 2 spoilers below.
Imagine playing mass effect 1 chasing the saren to the last and ending video shows collectors homeworld destroyed And normandy and shephard getting away.You would think where did that came from with a blank look.
Or the story.
There was a king and a queen both died in an attack. And the ending video would be their sons baking potatoes in their funeral fire.
PS: Don't play on a black and white monitor or you can get only one ending out of seven or so.
After playing for hours the triology (and reading the books) It leaves with the feeling What the **** just happened.
Mass effect 1 and 2 spoilers below.
Imagine playing mass effect 1 chasing the saren to the last and ending video shows collectors homeworld destroyed And normandy and shephard getting away.You would think where did that came from with a blank look.
Or the story.
There was a king and a queen both died in an attack. And the ending video would be their sons baking potatoes in their funeral fire.
PS: Don't play on a black and white monitor or you can get only one ending out of seven or so.
This thread really makes me want to see that ending.
Can't be worse than Clive Barker's Jerhico.
Can't be worse than Clive Barker's Jerhico.
http://social.bioware.com/633606/polls/
Poll on the bioware site with 50,000 votes.
2% thought the ending was fine though in fairness another 7% though some minor tweaks would make it ok.
I've seen the 3 bioware endings on Youtube now, I'm glad I chose the Alt+F4 ending. I figured if I don't push a button atleast the others have a chance to finish this right.
Poll on the bioware site with 50,000 votes.
2% thought the ending was fine though in fairness another 7% though some minor tweaks would make it ok.
I've seen the 3 bioware endings on Youtube now, I'm glad I chose the Alt+F4 ending. I figured if I don't push a button atleast the others have a chance to finish this right.
Something many of the fans were prepared for/okay with.way2sl0w said:
Negates a good chunk of the choices you made in a game series that has promised your choices will have consequences made by a developer who promised that your choices would shape a dnamic ending.
Also:
-That has plot holes.
-That changes only nominally based on the choices they offer you.
-That introduces a new Deus ex Machina right before the end of the game Cobined wit hthe above, it actually kind of negates the need for the series to have ever happened.
-That offers no closure. Keep in mind closure itself can be bad, it it's a necessary and expected element of storytelling AND life. While I'd prefer my father not to die at all, if he died, I'd want to know rather than be left without information.
Aaaaand the rest of the post seemed to be knocking down strawmen, either because they did something horrific to you like kill your family, or because you're posting on a subject without any real understanding of the subject at hand.
Though if you can look at this with some degree of depth and still say it's a good thing, more power to you.
That's not why the ending is badway2sl0w said:
^^That's why the ending was bad.BloatedGuppy said:
I would be perfectly happy with a downer end. (Paradoxically)
The problem with the ending(s) they presented was that there was such a jarring disconnect between the events leading up to the ending and how it actually ended.
The whole series leading up to that point was very tight, personal and character based. And it ends with some broad scope big picture magic button crap.
There's no closure, no sense of accomplishment, no emotional connection to what's happening, there's not even context. It's just out of place.
They could potentially fix it with DLC but if you're the kind of person who gets up-in-arms about Day 1 DLC I could only imagine that your head would explode if you heard they were holding the ending hostage for another $10.
I can't think of many endings that would be more awesome than that, really. In fact, if I ever make a game, I'm contracting the end series to you.Gizmo1990 said:
ME1:Phlakes said:
Did you let the council die or did you save them?
Was udina the new councilor or was it anderson?
Did you kill the arachnid queen or not?
ME2:
Which of your companions died in the end?
Did you blow up the collector base or not? (yes I know it has an 'effect' on the outcome in ME3. But I would hardly call it a big one.)
ME3:
Did you cure the genophage or not?
Did you kill the quarians?
Did you kill the geth?
Or did you unite them?
These are just a few that come to mind. I'm sure there are more. The point is that some decisions have a small impact. Some of them have a big one. I know they can't take ALL choices into consideration. But I don't think they should consider them all pointless in the end. For example: how can the catalyst even begin to claim the synthetics will kill all organics if A) you kill the geth? B) the geth and quarians have made nice and are both helping you? It kind of disproves his strongest argument?
I was dissapointed a bit before you get hit by harbingers beam. I expected to see all the squads you earned throughout the game. For example: arlac squad, asari commandos, the students from the academy. A bit like DA:O did. In the final war you can get help from your allies. Would have been fun. But I suppose this can be forgiven.
Also, why did I do the side mission on lesuss? I destroyed the academy and still those damn banshees are showing up? I shouldn't have bothered. Same goes for those damn arachnids. I thought I stopped the reapers from making more of those little buggers?
I also hate this arbitrary military effectiveness. It adds f*ck all to the game. It's just some arbitrary number. Apparently having a bigger fleet helps you when you are talking to the catalyst. How? How does having a bigger fleet help you when you choose to destroy the reapers? Somehow having more ships means that earth doesn't get blown up? You survive the destruction because you have a higher chance of bouncing off the ships on your way down to earth?
In ME2 the upgrades to the normandy made sense in the end. In ME3 having a bigger fleet just means a bigger number.
. Kind of sad that colour is such an important part of the ending of an epic tale =.=
that would be logical thing to do, ME3 is a really great experience, but like others have stated, the ending is completely stupid, and has been confirmed now that major parts of it have been gutted.Newtonyd said:
If I were you I would wait until this issue gets resolved, If it ever gets resolved is quite a different question.
Yes the game is fun, and through the course of it, you will get pay off to every decision you made.wooty said:
The difference is that ME2 could get away with it because it wasnt the end of the story, everyone knew there was sequel coming, so things could be left unanwsered, it was another choice that would have an eventual payoff.Danial said:
That is the main difference
It's the Neon Genesis Evangelion ending of video games, completely out of touch with the themes of the game, robs you of any sense of accomplishment and has no logical reason to exist apart for the sake of a gainax ending.
Won't your post, and by extension my post, do exactly the same thing?Athinira said:
J/K
For myself, I have just hit the point of hoping that this is my own delusion, and that I will wake up before March 3, and I will be able to still imagine how awesome ME3 is supposed to be rather than being crushed by the reality of it all.
Let me just say I liked Dragon Age 2. I didn't like the low amount of assets used to make a the game but I think that is about the only complaint against it and that is 90% a complaint on the visuals, which doesn't matter much to me. I think it important to take that into consideration considering the "beautiful disaster" theory some people use on fan outrage.way2sl0w said:
I would say read spoilers, man. I know how that sounds and I personally hate reading spoilers myself. But seriously, spoil the hell out of this ending for free instead of spending $60 bucks for it. Make sure you want to support it. The "dream hypothesis" is not only a small stretch, it appears to me to be that its merely people trying to justify the actual content so that they don't feel so bad about their purchase and time investment into the series. Even if the "dream hypothesis" was the intention of the ending, it is still very poorly written. Those dots are not easy to connect and that shows poor writing and even if you do manage to connect them, the ending is still abstract and hollow.
Spoil the ending for yourself, I promise you won't be ruining any part of the experience. This is coming from someone who did decide to spoil the ending for himself and have since never cared about finishing my Shepard's tale. I am glad I read spoilers and didn't waste money on this title this year.
Read spoilers. Just do it, you won't regret it. Your reaction will most likely be "That's it?" followed by any urgency to see the ending of the series completely gone.
I have started to only come into these threads to see if you are in them, you're consistent!BloatedGuppy said:
Srsly, over reaction would be an understatement! It's like you got one of those lollipop's where the stick is a whistle but you didn't like the note you got.
Did see this much hate when they didn't let you find out what happened to Morrigan and your baby in DA:O ... if they do even pull the "we will release it as DLC later" move.
Just treat it like an assault course wall, get over it!
Well the thing is it comes on to how one views the story and all.omega 616 said:
Some folks do have 'fridge logic' on things.
Some people can see the Star Wars prequels and not care and still think Vader is a badass.
Some see them and can't get over he was a "Whiny emo" who "hates sand" and went "NOOOOOOOoooooooooooo" and can't view him as a threatening imposing badass anymore.
To put it in ME terms
Some people can play through ME 1-2-3 again and not be bothered by the fact that, well, The Quarians will literally never see Rannoch again even if you make peace. Some will view their helping as the quarians in those games as pointless, then dislike them as a result
To put it in other terms.
For some people it's not like "The note after the lollipop"
for some people it's more like taking that final bite of ice-cream and having it be disgusting and then spitting out the parts of a fly.
You're not gonna look back on how good the icecream was.