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thaluikhain said:
Yeah, I'm reading this on a machine powered by and made from plants contemporaneous with early dinosaurs, which allows me to gather information from places all across the globe. I can look at detailed pictures of the surfaces of every planet in the solar system, including those I can't even see with my own eyes. I can find things out about animals that went extinct in times that are several orders of magnitude older than the beginning of my own species. I'm not seeing a lack of wonder, I'm seeing people being jaded.
Just the night sky alone. I seriously wonder how people can look at the cosmos and not be filled with a sense of wonder and--for want of a better term--magic.
 

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It's probably about time religion made a comeback in the West. I'm irreligious. Also, multiculturalism has no place outside of settler nations such as Canada/USA/Brazil.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
thaluikhain said:
Yeah, I'm reading this on a machine powered by and made from plants contemporaneous with early dinosaurs, which allows me to gather information from places all across the globe. I can look at detailed pictures of the surfaces of every planet in the solar system, including those I can't even see with my own eyes. I can find things out about animals that went extinct in times that are several orders of magnitude older than the beginning of my own species. I'm not seeing a lack of wonder, I'm seeing people being jaded.
Just the night sky alone. I seriously wonder how people can look at the cosmos and not be filled with a sense of wonder and--for want of a better term--magic.
I think part of it is the fact that the cosmos, the universe is a very abstract thing to them. Most people will probably never get to set foot off this planet in our lifetimes, so I can understand the disinterest. You know how when kids are in school and they ask "how am I going to use this?" and if you don't have a good answer they just stop listening? That's how most people are about space, they don't think it affects them so they don't care.

 

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After World War II, I hear the United States government executed captured axis interrogators for waterboarding. I can't say I would mind a return to our old attitudes regarding torture.
 

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You know how when kids are in school and they ask "how am I going to use this?" and if you don't have a good answer they just stop listening?
How are abstract dragons going to be useful to the people complaining about a lack of wonder? I mean, unless there actually were dragons and they were impacting daily life....
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
You know how when kids are in school and they ask "how am I going to use this?" and if you don't have a good answer they just stop listening?
How are abstract dragons going to be useful to the people complaining about a lack of wonder? I mean, unless there actually were dragons and they were impacting daily life....
The same way abstract mathematics is.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
The same way abstract mathematics is.
I'm big enough to admit when I'm lost.
Being lost is the one time a person gets to feel like an explorer these days. GPS killed being physically lost so being mentally lost is now the only exploration mankind can achieve. Explore the universe within your own mind. Your filthy, disgusting mind.
 

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Westaway said:
It's probably about time religion made a comeback in the West. I'm irreligious. Also, multiculturalism has no place outside of settler nations such as Canada/USA/Brazil.
Can I ask why to both of these? To me, religion seems like a bad thing and multiculturalism a good thing, so it's interesting that you think differently.
 

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Company loyalty, in both directions. Your employer wants you to stay on, and understands it's in their best interests to invest in and take care of you and your family; you want the company to do well because you feel like a functional part of a greater entity, not a cog in a machine that would be cheaper to replace than to repair. With the attendant understanding that you can't have middle-class consumers if you aren't willing to employ people at wages that allow them to be middle-class.

I'm half inclined to wish for a return of dueling culture, just on the lines that we'd stop hearing from the more egregiously obnoxious people so often.

(I kid.)

(Mostly.)
 

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Alek_the_Great said:
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I'm just... how... I mean... WHAT?!?! I know you're not a radical feminist or anything but that is literally one of the most stereotypical and cliched fallacious statements you could see those exact type of people spouting. I'm really having trouble trying to understand the reasoning behind the correlation.
Mabye the wording was a bit strong but as I said an obsession with purity and virginity has always negatively affected woman first and foremost
 

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Community.

In some ways, that's changed. Like in this forum, this is a community that wasn't possible years ago.

But, in many ways, it doesn't replace a neighborly community.

There was a time you needed a community, a tribe a town, or a guild to look after one another cause life was much more unpredictable. Reciprocal altruism helped us thrive.
 
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Err... none? I actually quite like the social norms and values of today and most of the bad ones already existed for a looong time.
 

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f1r2a3n4k5 said:
Community.

In some ways, that's changed. Like in this forum, this is a community that wasn't possible years ago.

But, in many ways, it doesn't replace a neighborly community.

There was a time you needed a community, a tribe a town, or a guild to look after one another cause life was much more unpredictable. Reciprocal altruism helped us thrive.
Wow this is one I can actually agree with.
 

Elementary - Dear Watson

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Definitely fashion ideas. I like a nice pair of trousers and a tailored shirt... and I hate that I am somehow looked down on as odd and stuffy (even though I have some great colour combinations... Purple, gold, red and green trousers now!) because I prefer not to wear the Devil's Cloth (denim). My traditional but colourful dress sense from the heart of British Tailoring should be respected!
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
thaluikhain said:
Yeah, I'm reading this on a machine powered by and made from plants contemporaneous with early dinosaurs, which allows me to gather information from places all across the globe. I can look at detailed pictures of the surfaces of every planet in the solar system, including those I can't even see with my own eyes. I can find things out about animals that went extinct in times that are several orders of magnitude older than the beginning of my own species. I'm not seeing a lack of wonder, I'm seeing people being jaded.
Just the night sky alone. I seriously wonder how people can look at the cosmos and not be filled with a sense of wonder and--for want of a better term--magic.
I think part of it is the fact that the cosmos, the universe is a very abstract thing to them. Most people will probably never get to set foot off this planet in our lifetimes, so I can understand the disinterest. You know how when kids are in school and they ask "how am I going to use this?" and if you don't have a good answer they just stop listening? That's how most people are about space, they don't think it affects them so they don't care.

I think education is partly to blame, there is no time allowed to inspire or encourage curiosity, all the time is taken teaching kids the checklist of facts they need to pass the exam.

The universe is scary as shit, I would think it would be one of the easiest topics to engage kids with if a decent teacher was allowed free reign. I can't even remember doing anything "space" related past primary school.
 

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Elementary - Dear Watson said:
Definitely fashion ideas. I like a nice pair of trousers and a tailored shirt... and I hate that I am somehow looked down on as odd and stuffy (even though I have some great colour combinations... Purple, gold, red and green trousers now!) because I prefer not to wear the Devil's Cloth (denim). My traditional but colourful dress sense from the heart of British Tailoring should be respected!
Indeed, you should see the looks my new bonnet gets.
 

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Wandering_Hero said:
Men and women as equals, in both rights and to be expected of them. if its unacceptable for a man to do something it should be unacceptable for a woman to do something. If a woman acts unethically, they should be treated the exact same way as a man who did something unethical. A woman should be expected to stand on her own merits, as a man who can. Their is no weaker gender, especially on the internet. Those who claim to stand for social justice can hold woman to that justice as well as men. harrasmanet is not ok, no matter which gender or faction is doing it. Also practice what you preach.

Man Suffragette Feminism is way better than this modern joke
You sound like something straight out of 9gag. I honestly don't know where people get these twisted ideas about feminism.

OT: as fun as it is to get all nostalgic about the past, I think the atmosphere of tolerance and progress in my part of the world is about as good as we've had it, so I'm happy with things as they are and hope they continue to improve; looking forward, not backward.
 

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Wandering_Hero said:
I'm just wondering who would defend Quinn and that "gamers are dead lol" person if the genders were reversed. Gender shouldn't affect morality.
I wonder who would care at all if genders were reversed.