On Multiplayer

[senataur]

This thread is filled with good examples of the douchey behavior that comes about from people in competitive gameplay. That left for dead story above is a very common situation. Check out the WoW pvp forums for numerous examples of people behaving like dickwits in order to big note themselves.

That said, many, if not all of the most exiting a fun filled moments I've had in any game have come from multiplayer. There is something about matching skills with other people that I dont think any AI will ever be able to match. Just so long as they are not douchebags. Sadly however they seem to be the rule rather than the exception and they appear to training the new generations in the same douchebaggery.

Another example of the poor outcomes that can come from competitive gameplay with people who desire to win at any cost is cheap tatics being used in the games. If some weapon or skill makes it into a game imbalanced, bugged or overpowered you can bet that that advantage will be taken and exploited for all it's worth with a negative effect of the quality of the gameplay.

I think multiplayer is where it's at and will continue to be. Just with your friends and established communities of the like minded. Making sure to steer clear of the whooting dickbags of the general populace.

 

[Flying Dagger]

I have the opposite.
I enjoy winning but don't care about losing (unless it's to someone who's smug)

allows me to enjoy multiplayer a lot.

 

[DPunch4]

I was 11th in the world on N+, that's 11th out of hundreds of thousands. Why? Because I really loved that game. I loved how people died in the game! Now days with the new maps and stuff I'd probably be in the top 300 only tho. Still, good times were always had with 3 friends and N+.

 

[T. S. Wolf]

Personally, i feel the same way about competitive video games. While i enjoyed them back in the day when i had no responsibilities besides completing homework assignments and continuing to breathe; the problem is that i have so much other stuff going on that i don't have the time to dedicate to play one game for hours on end until i've memorized all the spawn points and know what all the best weapons are. I like co-op games for the fact that if you're playing with an all-star it helps the team; but if you're playing against an all-star he'll just keep spawn raping you until you get fed up with his endless banter about how he has no life and you leave.

 

[Gather]

...You live with other people?

 

[Moffman]

Aye I much prefer co-op to competitive any day. Good article Mr. Croshaw

 

[Moffman]

This thread is filled with good examples of the douchey behavior that comes about from people in competitive gameplay. That left for dead story above is a very common situation. Check out the WoW pvp forums for numerous examples of people behaving like dickwits in order to big note themselves.

That said, many, if not all of the most exiting a fun filled moments I've had in any game have come from multiplayer. There is something about matching skills with other people that I dont think any AI will ever be able to match. Just so long as they are not douchebags. Sadly however they seem to be the rule rather than the exception and they appear to training the new generations in the same douchebaggery.

Another example of the poor outcomes that can come from competitive gameplay with people who desire to win at any cost is cheap tatics being used in the games. If some weapon or skill makes it into a game imbalanced, bugged or overpowered you can bet that that advantage will be taken and exploited for all it's worth with a negative effect of the quality of the gameplay.

I think multiplayer is where it's at and will continue to be. Just with your friends and established communities of the like minded. Making sure to steer clear of the whooting dickbags of the general populace.

Totally agree. Shame about douche bags . Starcraft II is awesome to play online. It's simple enough for every one to get and complex enough to have real depth. Usually people are really nice, simply saying gg if you win or lose. However I played a group of real gits, who while better than me just were rude about it, swearing till the cows came home and mocking us behind their screen names. They were the kind of people that took a constructive argument and just said "F***k you NUUUUUB"... Charming.
If you are reading this and are one of those players, your not big, your not clever and really need to raise your self-esteem in a more constructive way that isn't doing down other members of the human race

 

[Moffman]

Sorry about the sheer amount of posting
I also hate those back-stabbing cowards in WoW... Very fulfilling when you turn it around and beat them though, serves em right!

 

[VanillaBean]

Why do I always seem to agree with everything Yahtzee says about multiplayer?

 

[Towels]

This is the reason I don't play games like Rock Band anymore...

The group of friend I played with used it for purely competitive reasons, ruining the fun of Rocking out in a band. Xbox-live is even worse because then you add internet annoyniminity.

Now, I love competitive games as long as its obviously expected. However, there's always that dick who turns a cooperative game into a competitive one to impress his brain-dead girlfriend who isn't really paying attention. Boring.

 

[Crimson_Dragoon]

I'm with Yahtzee on this one. I love co-op, particularly with friends, but I usually pass on competitive modes.

 

[SlasherX]

Well this makes a lot of sense thank you for clearing thsis up

 

[Bearclaw66]

Interesting to actually get a deeper explanation about this subject. I can understand not enjoying competitive multiplayer, sometimes I just don't feel up to trying to trying my hardest to ruin another player's enjoyment of the game.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

And with that, all the idiots who didn't realise that he's a comedian, stopped being as big idiots.

 

[senataur]

Paraphrased slightly to suit my own wording but this could easily be my new sig..

Sometimes I just couldn't be stuffed trying my hardest to ruin another player's enjoyment of a game.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I personally don't view Co-op as Multiplayer at all. You'r both experiencing the story together aren't you? That goes for guild questing in WoW as much as L4D too in my books.

Also, who else can't get the hilarious image of a scrawny teenage Yahtzee (with a smaller trilby) in rugby shorts being pummeled by burly kids, out of their heads?

 

[TheMadDoctorsCat]

Wait... someone's played System Shock 2 multiplayer? Since 1999? Wooooow.

Anyway... I like "Team Fortress 2" because the fact that I'm pretty bad at that kind of game in general does not mean that I can't have fun with it. Whereas I don't play "Left for Dead" much because when I bumble (and I do, often) it generally means that my entire team gets killed. And then they get all blamey about it. And kick me off the server. Doucheba... anyway.

So I think the type of game is important, not just whether it's competitive or not. That's what I'm basically saying here.

 

[Anarchemitis]

Poor Sadpants. His friend Jerry never stood a chance.

 

[duchaked]

it's true I don't play online multiplayer a lot cuz I just wanna relax and game not fight for nothing

 

[ChupathingyX]

I don't mind competitive multiplayer, I don't even know them and I will probably never meet them. So who cares about them? When I'm playing online competitive with friends it's completely different because we always joke around.

However, I've always preferred co-op more than competitive; Resistance 2 co-op was heaps of fun for me, the Special Ops mode from MW2, Nazi Zombies in WaW and BO. I love playing all of these co-op games with friends, because online people will camp, noob tube and knife you from 5 metres away, AI, however, don't do this.