- Feb 2, 2012
Yes, Rape is about power not physical attraction. A woman could be walking down the street naked and it still wouldn't be her fault if she was raped.Mr F. said:Dropping in for 30 seconds before going to the pharmacy.Scott Rothman said:There isn't inherently wrong with a joke that discusses the topic of rape. The issue is with jokes that are at the expense of victims of rape.
Joke that touches on rape and isn't offensive to victims of rape
One: Your video made me laugh. (Gonna embed it into your post. You should embed things people)
Two: Because rape is rape, it can never be justified, normalised, and its not ridiculous. See, when I say "What is the difference between a truck load of sand and a truckload of babies? You cannot unload a truckload of sand with a pitch fork" that is ridiculous and fucking stupid. Just ridiculous and just fucking stupid. There will never be a truckload of babies being unloaded with a pitchfork.
You might know someone who knows someone who has been murdered. My dad lost a colleague in Pa Pua New Guinea to a screwdriver during a robbery. You might know someone who has been brutally assaulted, had a friend jumped outside Tesco, he had seven kinds of hell beaten out of him. But that is unlikely.
What is incredibly likely is that you know a rape victim. I mean, bar those specific examples, I know nobody who has been murdered or brutally (As in, hospitalised) assaulted. Yet, from the top of my head, I can name at least 4 rape victims that I knew on a personal level. Oh, wait, five. And, if I had not fought and stuggled, I would be number 6 on that list. Those are just the people that have, on a personal basis, told me about what has happened.
See, that is why Rape is just something you have to be very, very careful about joking about. That vid was fucking hilarious, that is a rape joke done well. But most are not. And you sorta have to remember that chances are you know a rape victim. Chances are you know a FEW rape victims. I do not live in a rough area, never have. Rape permeates our culture, on every level.
Would you tell holocaust jokes with a survivor in the room? Would you crack out your "My grandad died in one of the camps, he fell out of a guard tower"? If you say yes, you are either lying or an asshole. Well, its the same with rape. Unless you know, you are CERTAIN, that there aint a survivor in the room, don't tell your fucking joke. Unless it is fucking hilarious (Like the above comedy video)
Too busy to find the study, but a tiny minority of rapists cite sexual attraction as being anything important. As in, the people that DO the raping dont do it because "She was well fit" they do it for power. Rape is about power, about the weak being controlled by the strong. The guy that tried to rape me, a close personal friend who I trusted (Like the VAST MAJORITY OF RAPISTS.) wasn't interested in me, he wasn't fucking gay. He knew I was Bi though, he knew I was drunk, he had just had a fight with his girlfriend and he wanted power over me, he wanted to "Test" me (His words.)Watcheroftrends said:Unfortunately, dressing in a sexual manner attracts attention that can be very bad. *SNIP*
So no, its not like walking around with all your money on show.
Its more like being human and having a moment of weakness when there are cunts around. Cunts who are your friends, your family. Cunts who want to have power over something because they feel small. Its not "Idealistic" to assume that women should be able to walk the streets at night, it is not even unrealistic. Most rapes are not committed by strangers. Hell, its not about showing a moment of weakness, it is just about being weaker then someone else or percieved as weaker. The guy who tried to rape me KNEW he had the power, he was popular, all bar one of my friends was one of his OLD friends, if I said anything nobody would believe me. Was it my fault for putting my assets on show?
A friend turned up on my doorstep after his mum kicked him out. I was drunk and let him come in to crash on my floor for the night. We started watching a film, he encouraged me to keep drinking (And he was abstaining and sober at the time.). Is this my fault? Really?
And, on that note, go look into some serial rapists. There was that guy caught in London who was breaking into houses are raping OAP's. That was DEFINITELY because he was sexually attracted to them, right? When men are raped in prisons, that is about sexual power, right? When gay men are raped in Iraq, before being murdered (By the police) in horrific ways, that is about sexual attraction right?
See, when feminists, like myself, go on about "Rape Culture" its helpful when people like you appear and sorta prove our points. Nothing you have said has any basis in any known study, nothing you have said has any basis in anything other than victim blaming.
And the important distinction about the joke above is that while it does discuss the topic of rape it doesn't belittle the experience or any victims of rape.