On the Left 4 Dead Ban

[widowspeak]

Honestly, why do governments care SO much about snot nosed minors. If the parent is a shitty parent and cannot control what their child sees then that is THEIR problem, not every adult in the nation, whose liberties are infringed thanks to concerned religious mothers.

Absolutely agreed. We have similar problems here in the U.S., just not on the same scale. Every time this issue has come up with some government official or other uppity individual (for example, Jack Thompson), we've somehow managed to quash it. Congressmen and other busybodies refuse to acknowledge that it is the parents' job to police the hobbies and goings-on of their own children. I can see why, given most parents around here seem to think it the responsibility of the government to do their job for them.

I used to work at a game store, and even though we had large posters outlining the meaning behind each ESRB rating, parents STILL didn't get that buying an M-rated game was going to expose their offspring to. . .well, not-so-kid-friendly stuff. I would point out the rating and the contents of the game to a parent at checkout, and, sometimes, I would get through to them exactly what they were about to buy for their kid. On those occasions, the parent would look at their child, and you could see from the child's face that they had hoodwinked good 'ol Mom or Dad into purchasing a game they really shouldn't be playing until long after puberty. Other times, though, I'd get screamed at for trying to tell a parent how to raise their little hellion. Is it any wonder why I no longer work in retail?

Bottom line: Parents, do your damn job. You've got to be at least a little better at it than the government. I mean, look at their track record. Do you REALLY want those idiots raising your kid?

 

[widowspeak]

I wonder...

what if they replaced the zombies with monkeys.. would it still get banned?

Probably not, but I'm sure PETA would be first in line to try.

 

[Skylarm]

Okay, this may be a stupid question, but can't you just buy off of Amazon? Or Steam? I don't know the workings of the mailing system/government system in other countries, but I don't think they can ban you from using Amazon, or buying it off Steam.

 

[Uszi]

What qualifications do you need to run for the ACB?
What branch of the government do they respond to?

What's the point of your representative democracy if the Australians aren't actually politicizing their unrest. A bunch of snide articles on esoteric video game based websites won't change a damn thing.

Yahtzee mentioned the average gamer is over 30. Is that true?
If it is, it seems like simply publishing a survey result arguing that should take the wind out of the ACB's sails. Or at least force them to implement an 18+ rating.

 

[rayman 101]

This article gets 2 thumbs up from me:

DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB
DOWN WITH THE ACB

 

[bushwhacker2k]

I can't imagine it's the first violent zombie game they've ever heard of, or do they only get out so often? Every couple years?

 

[JoshGod]

how about you all dress up as infected and go eat ur government. XD what too rash? how about talking with them and if they persist start patitioning against things old people like, for example pensions or worthers originals, or those mini car things... they could run people over on our streets ffs they're to dangerous the also encourage lazyness.
ha
i wonder when were in our old age if we do something similar to the new technology?

 

[Nuke_em_05]

I think it's better to focus on the bit about not having an 18+ rating.

That means that the ACB considers videogames a pass-time for minors. That said, all of their points are quite valid in their context, there's no point trying to ridicule them or justify it.

The problem is that since it is unsuitable for minors, and they have no rating for non-minors, they can't approve it for sale. That said, perhaps more effort should be spent in advocating an 18+ or "Mature" rating, instead of complaining about their reasons for it being unsuitable for minors.

The points are valid in-context. The solution is changing the context.

 

[Netwatcher]

all these reasons for the ban just increase my will to play this game...
good thing they didn't mention that you can even frigging DIE in the game, and float around like a ghost looking at your living allies fighting a horde of zombies and then extracting you magically from a closet somewhere along the way.
I won't wanna try that in real life.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Okay, this may be a stupid question, but can't you just buy off of Amazon? Or Steam? I don't know the workings of the mailing system/government system in other countries, but I don't think they can ban you from using Amazon, or buying it off Steam.

That might just work.

 

[Infernai]

Hmm, so basically the game isn't allowed because the ACB are Actually zombies themselves plotting world domination. And what us to be as unprepared as possible, for the zombie apocolypse that is currently on the horizon? I knew it!

 

[Lusulpher]

You could always move to Canada, Yahtzee. We haven't banned any games here, at least not to my knowledge. And we get games released at the same time as the Americans. WHOOOOOOO!

[font size=8]*Disclaimer: Not actually suggesting Yahtzee move anywhere. "Suggestion" intended for humorous purposes.[/font]

This quote...it is Truth, I quote it for world to share.

Also, it's one Attorney-General that needs to have non-violent sitdown of a about 30 people outside his office for a week(go larger, more days, more calmly). He'll get the message that you know about him, and that will make him realize he is pissing off a lot of older people.

Take a day off from work and fuuking protest! Old-school gangsta style(RIP M.L.K. Jr., Ghandi, Jesus).

Corrupt governments can't defend against peaceful attacks, everybody knows it. It's only a matter of time before they have to admit they represent evil/laziness/cruelty/incompetence in the system.

 

[Wyes]

Corrupt governments can't defend against peaceful attacks, everybody knows it. It's only a matter of time before they have to admit they represent evil/laziness/cruelty/incompetence in the system.

China.

 

[Sketchy]

This makes me rage... It'd better be classified by release, or I'll march right down to Canberra, and slap the government silly.

And I WILL do it...

 

[SonicSoulstrike96]

Corrupt governments can't defend against peaceful attacks, everybody knows it. It's only a matter of time before they have to admit they represent evil/laziness/cruelty/incompetence in the system.

China.

QFepicT

Rather ironic, considering that old joke of Australia being founded by convicts and all. And here I thought American raters were retarded old prudes.

 

[Knight Templar]

This quote from the Manhunt ZP seems appropriate

"There's a very clear certification indicating that twelve year olds aren't supposed to be playing it but there's no denying they play it anyone because no one other than twelve year olds are into this thing. Talking breathlessly about wire decapitation and baseball bat cranial explosion is a good way to win friends around middle school but around the office water cooler it's a good way to lose them."

What's your point?

Those kids will still end up playing the games, it's those who do care about the law that are punished. The average gamer in Australia is about 30 years old, why should the many be punished to hide things from the few?

 

[Metalrocks]

they are soooo worried that this has a bad influence on children. soon they mide ban scooby doo, because it mide make the children solve dangerous crimes. or any game based on cartoons like batman, spiderman etc. they have violence too and the children try to be like them.
maybe the government tries to have the same life like in the movie demolition man. no violence, swearing etc.

 

[Spider Expert]

This quote from the Manhunt ZP seems appropriate

"There's a very clear certification indicating that twelve year olds aren't supposed to be playing it but there's no denying they play it anyone because no one other than twelve year olds are into this thing. Talking breathlessly about wire decapitation and baseball bat cranial explosion is a good way to win friends around middle school but around the office water cooler it's a good way to lose them."

What's your point?

Those kids will still end up playing the games, it's those who do care about the law that are punished. The average gamer in Australia is about 30 years old, why should the many be punished to hide things from the few?

Almost every kid would want this sort of thing and the large majority of adults would not care for it.

Also few? Hardly. Suppose my point is banning it is pointless.

 

[Knight Templar]

Also few? Hardly.

What part of "The average gamer in Australia is about 30 years old" didn't you understand.
The majority has to follow the rules that exsist for the few.

 

[Razorback0z]

It doesnt stop us getting the games. Almost all my games are imports and always have been. All it effectively does in the end is deny Australian retailers the income... go figure...