On Time Travel
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Has Chris E been on this to bolster his already strong and well thought out argument? He has shown (conclusively) that it doesn't take much to topple Yatzee's arguments. He says "Mario has lost his creativity", you say "you cock-juggling thunder-****". Chris E just makes it look so easy!
Should I assume the last part about Majora's Mask is a knock on the game itself?
Also I think that Singularity is MILES ahead of Timeshift. The guns are better, the time travel is reasonable and not reality-breaking like Timeshift's (as Yahtzee pointed out), and, if I remember correctly, Singularity has more variety enemy-wise.
And sure Singularity's ending is cliche time travel correction but at least there is an ending.
The ending of Timeshift was so abrupt it annoyed the crap out of me. It made sense but it wasn't very good.
Also I think that Singularity is MILES ahead of Timeshift. The guns are better, the time travel is reasonable and not reality-breaking like Timeshift's (as Yahtzee pointed out), and, if I remember correctly, Singularity has more variety enemy-wise.
And sure Singularity's ending is cliche time travel correction but at least there is an ending.
The ending of Timeshift was so abrupt it annoyed the crap out of me. It made sense but it wasn't very good.
I'll never understand all the hate mail you get, but I'm glad you get it if only for the amusement if provides when you rip on it. I love the ZP reviews, even when you rip on the games I like! Ignore the fan-boys and keep it up, except review more shit so I don't have to keep re-watching past reviews in anticipation of Wednesdays!
Jack and Calumon said:
Calumon, you're awesome. Can you copy annnyones memories ?.?
And Jack, why you never let Calumon play Half-life 2, that's not nice, loose 2 points.
On topic:
I too found that little message much to my amusement. I would point out other time travel games but from his consideration of the ones he discused I don't think it right to lead a horse to slaughter.
Misery loves company so we all get to read a letter from Chris E? Thanks? Ha.
Are we to imply from the last bit that mentioning Majora's Mask is Chris E level of poor? I'd disagree with that assessment, personally. I really enjoyed it as a "twisted tales" sort of take on Zelda games with all the good game play and level design that comes with it being a product of the actual Zelda game people.
As for games that I doubt anyone will defend, the original "Journeyman Project" was one of those "like Myst BUT" games that had time travel and original Myst style game play and none of the "good" like you want.
Clive Barker's Undying had a feature where you could watch ghosts endlessly replay the past through your "ghost vision" spell. It was frequently very useful for finding goodies and sometimes for advancing the plot but wasn't strictly time travel I suppose.
How about Braid? Pretty tight little game all around I'd say.
Are we to imply from the last bit that mentioning Majora's Mask is Chris E level of poor? I'd disagree with that assessment, personally. I really enjoyed it as a "twisted tales" sort of take on Zelda games with all the good game play and level design that comes with it being a product of the actual Zelda game people.
As for games that I doubt anyone will defend, the original "Journeyman Project" was one of those "like Myst BUT" games that had time travel and original Myst style game play and none of the "good" like you want.
Clive Barker's Undying had a feature where you could watch ghosts endlessly replay the past through your "ghost vision" spell. It was frequently very useful for finding goodies and sometimes for advancing the plot but wasn't strictly time travel I suppose.
How about Braid? Pretty tight little game all around I'd say.
Starcraft 2 previews seem to invoke time travel to bring us back to the one bit of plot anyone actually gave a damn about; ie Kerrigan getting /gkicked.
Anyway, now that I think of it most all the games I've played recently involve vicarious revivification of the past via audio logs and whatnot, if not time travel itself. Even WoW has several segments with ghosts and such to show/involve players in what happened in the past.
Anyway, now that I think of it most all the games I've played recently involve vicarious revivification of the past via audio logs and whatnot, if not time travel itself. Even WoW has several segments with ghosts and such to show/involve players in what happened in the past.
Hmm, well, Chrono Trigger is an obvious choice if I am mentioning good games which make use of time travel
also, Star Ocean was pretty good
and I had a blast playing Ape Escape on the Playstation when I was a kid.
lol, startropics II is on that list
I don't know whether that game was good or bad because I could never get out of the snowy mountains in the start without dying, but I can tell you that the story for that series is RE-TAR-DED.
also, Star Ocean was pretty good
and I had a blast playing Ape Escape on the Playstation when I was a kid.
lol, startropics II is on that list
I don't know whether that game was good or bad because I could never get out of the snowy mountains in the start without dying, but I can tell you that the story for that series is RE-TAR-DED.
Neverwinter nights time travel sandbox was a good one:not only are you stopping some anchiant evil from coming back, you find out you are the cause of a rebellion that defeated it in the first place, small but elegant sort of like the acrobat-miget of vidiogame time-travel
Time Commando ... added it to the Wiki too. From what I remember, the graphics were great (at the time) but the control was iffy because of the angles. I enjoyed the variety in the weapons too. I don't remember too many games where the main weapons are sticks and stones in one level and laser pistols in another.
Since he mentioned it, Majora's Mask rocks. Ocarina of Time had some realism issues (such as the windmill man knowing the song that you haven't gone back to use to dry up the windmill yet), but I guess MM probably would have had some of those if we'd got to see the effects of the timetravel in the distant future.
OoA was horrible in terms of logic.
OoA was horrible in terms of logic.
Well he did start Dear Yahtzee so that gives him 1 point for tact.
However he didn't spell 100 out so he loses a point for poor letter grammer.
However he didn't spell 100 out so he loses a point for poor letter grammer.
Wow, that's just freaky, because as i read this i am currently halfway through replaying Majora's Mask and it has to be my favorite game of the decade, and no even if ocarina of time was made in 2000 and Majora's Mask later, i would still say Majora's Mask. I have no idea why but i love the game and feel like in comparison ocarina of time had something missing. Oh yeah that's right, outside the royal family's of legend of Zelda (Goron, Zora, human and farmers) people actually have a story to go with them and for every mask you have a different ability, including having the ocarina. I don't know why people ***** its' short, it's like portal, it doesn't overstay it's welcome. holy crap i really got off topic. Oh well
-.- rely. The rule is if it's under 100 you spell it out, and i even think spelling ninety-nine is pushing it a little.Warped_Ghost said:
TimeShift i played for the first three chapters and i know it went back in time.klipton said:
Ocarina of Time went back in time before you could even get past one of the bosses and at the end to make way for him being a kid in, well this.
Majora's Mask went back in time neatly every dungeon and even if you could fit them all in one day, yes i mean you Adrian, you still have to do it to not be a Deku shrub the entire game unless you use cheats.
needless to say, Prince of Persia has you time travel back so you don't have to go to the last check point if you fuck up.
And i don't know shit's worth of that many games, but if any have it that you stop the entire game from happening somehow, that's traveling back in time, technically.