Online Kombat

[Schadrach]

>kotaku.
Right, right people use that site still.
huh, I actually give more fucks about that then the gay char, weird.

Yeah, I know, right?

No one's demanding this character be changed from how he was designed to make him that way, or retroactively changing an existing character because outrage mob or any of the other bullshit, so...good for them?

Now the people who have a problem with it can go to hell, but that's mostly because they're doing is exactly the same bullshit I complain about when the other side does it.

 

[TristanBelmont]

I didn't know there was even a gay character to be honest.

 

[ace_of_something]

That's cool but the question remains. What horrifyingly violent ways does he kill a person?

I thought there was a transexual character in street fighter?

Only in Japan

 

[Bad Jim]

If you make an effort to tell everyone you don't care, you care.

What if I don't care about, say, Anita Sarkeesian, but I covet those lovely "On Fire" badges? Starting a topic with 2,000 words about me not caring would be a good move, right?

 

[cleric of the order]

I didn't know there was even a gay character to be honest.

It normally doesn't come up
Like when I talk to gay dudes(I often am antiquated with them for quite a while), they're like yo I'm gay and we move on. Well in a day to day sense.
Talking about your sexuality, is damn personal and not something you do quite often.
Also the games haven't been built around characterization as far as I remember

 

[Vorpal_Smilodon]

Yeah... im calling BS on the Unicorn thing...

Im able to play gay characters in any bioware game but i have yet to be able to play as a unicorn...

WE NEED MORE DIVERSITY!

You are missing out! http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html

 

[Amir Kondori]

I think it is great to have gay characters in video games.

 

[Adultratedhydra]

You know after spending a half a day looking around i still cant see anyone legitimately complaining about this outside of obvious troll spaces. This is literally manufactured outrage going on. People have gone out and made up some outrage so they can be outraged at it. And then people are getting outraged at the outrage over the fake outrage.

We have to go deeper.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

I too must question the relevance. Unless it impacts the game in some shape or form, it is a pointless detail. I've been playing Mortal Kombat since the very first game, and thus far, none of the details concerning the personal lives has changed the way the game is played.

 

[Adultratedhydra]

Both make fun of a small contingent of morons who get upset when games include homosexuality and that's it.

When did it become accepted practice to feed trolls? Isnt doing this, even mocking them, just giving them what they want? what happened to ignoring the trolls when they said something so obviously baited? Yes even 2000 words or less essays of this crap should be ignored because at the end of the day responding to it with -Anything- is giving the troll what he or she wants, attention.

 

[Adultratedhydra]

Both make fun of a small contingent of morons who get upset when games include homosexuality and that's it.

When did it become accepted practice to feed trolls? Isnt doing this, even mocking them, just giving them what they want? what happened to ignoring the trolls when they said something so obviously baited? Yes even 2000 words or less essays of this crap should be ignored because at the end of the day responding to it with -Anything- is giving the troll what he or she wants, attention.

Because it's not all trolling...

All the more reason to ignore it. What is the man covered in shit shouting about not wanting to catch the gay going to do exactly? is he going to sit Ed Boon down and have a discussion about why the gay is evil and he must purge the gay? Or is he going to buy every copy of MKX in existence and burn them all in ritualistic glory to the star born ones?

The point is the people who are pissed about this cant do anything about it except rattle their cage as the world moves on without them. Mocking them or engaging with them in any way just makes them keep going. It's like the Ethics brigade, GG would have died out months ago if people just ignored it, the only reason it keeps going is because people keep talking about it. If the internet stopped giving it the time of day it would cease to be.

 

[Random Argument Man]

If you make an effort to tell everyone you don't care, you care.

What if I don't care about, say, Anita Sarkeesian, but I covet those lovely "On Fire" badges? Starting a topic with 2,000 words about me not caring would be a good move, right?

Serious: I'll still say that you care. I would be entertained as hell though knowing the "On Fire" while reading your essay.

Semi-Joke: I could also point out that the idea that you've made a 2000 words post stating that you don't care would be similar to Taylor Swift singing "Shake it off". The big difference would be that you made a better effort. Although, if I pointed this out in your thread, it would seem rude to tell you this comparison since you've made a great effort?Therefore, I wouldn't point it out?and the 2000 words essay would go by with no criticism?

 

[Lightknight]

Kotaku's readership and monthly hit counts actually increased as Gamergate got bigger. The site's most successful month ever was the November after Gamergate hit. Also, Polygon's readership has remained steady, while Gamasutra (which was never aimed at the gaming public in the first place) saw a sizable drop in readership.

Really? I'd have suspected a tremendous spike in every site that published articles on the matter. That's generally the purpose of click bait articles anyways and gamers are dead was the "flamiest".

I understand the Kotaku bit. They've got to be the biggest name in gaming sites right now and I'm sure people were looking for answers even if they weren't coming.

 

[Eric the Orange]

Yea, I don?t give a fuck. I mean, seriously! Who cares if they?re a gay character in Mortal Kombat. I mean, there?s been gay characters in video games before; it?s not like this is some kind of ground breaking phenomenon! I mean... WOW! There a gay character in a video game! Who gives a fuck? I mean, Bioware has had a zillion gay characters in their games. I mean, I could make a list if I wanted, but I?m too lazy to bother doing so because it would be such a waste of my time to put any solid context behind my claims. But it?s not just Bioware games either. Zhang He, from Dynasty Warriors, is totally another gay character in video games. I mean, it was never confirmed, but he obviously is. I mean, look at the way he talks and dresses! And someone already mentioned Venom from Guilty Gear! Gay characters are ALL over video games, seriously! And this is really nothing new. I mean, we?ve had gay video game characters for the longest time! I mean, what? You think Tails is straight? Give me a break. We all know which way Tails turns in bed.

I?m letting you all know that I don?t give a fuck. I mean, totally. What?s the big deal about being gay anyway? I mean, you?re not normal, so does that give you should get some kind of special representation in games? I mean, really! Just because you?re gay doesn?t mean that you?re entitled to get some kind of special treatment in games. All of this social justice bullshit that?s getting pushed onto video games recently? I just don?t give a fuck man; it?s all just minorities acting like they deserve special treatment and stuff, just because they?re minorities. I mean, get over yourselves, WE?RE the majority, so WE deserve more representation in games. I don?t give a fuck about all these minorities pulling a victim routine and trying to force gamers to accept that you exist. I am totally entitled to speak for all gamers, and I?m telling you all right now--Gamers don?t give a fuck about representation in games!

But you don?t understand. I REALLY don?t give a fuck. That?s why I wrote this two-thousand word post in the comment section of Kotaku and am now copy and pasting it here. Seriously, when it comes to representation in games, I just don?t give a fuck. And BECAUSE I don?t give a fuck, this is the exact reason why no one else should give a fuck also. It?s just a waste of time and money for devs to spend their time and effort on representation in games because I just don?t give a fuck about that kind of thing. And, since I?m an average straight, white, male gamer, it?s safe for me to say that all gamers don?t care about representation in games. I mean, most gamers don?t give a fuck about representation in games, and I really, REALLY don?t give a fuck. So why is this even posted on a news site any? I mean, what? Is a slow news day or something? Posting news that no one gives a fuck about? God...

Sorry about the language.

I really hope this comment is serious. Because it is so much more funny if it is serious.

 

[O maestre]

I'm all for inclusiveness... but... unless there's a sex mini-game, how would we even know they were gay, or why should it be relevant in the least? I mean, do we know for sure Chun-Li isn't gay? That Scorpion doesn't like dudes? Would it even matter, in the least?

I hear you man, for all we know the entire cast of Mortal Kombat is homosexual, and it still wouldn't be a big deal due to the way Mortal Kombat games usually deals with story.

The only story heavy fighter game I can think of is Tekken. Even some of my (filthy peasant) casual gamer buddies notice stuff like the various familial relations in Tekken's story, not so much when it comes to MK or Street Fighter.

 

[K12]

Is he stereotypically gay? How is he identified as such in the game?

They really don't draw much attention to it. This is the only reference to it in game.

This is a pretty classy way of doing a gay character. He's not "The gay guy" his homosexuality is just as relevant as it would make sense to be.

Never ever thought I'd used the word classy to refer to Mortal Kombat!

 

[Sanderpower]

I've got mixed feelings on the whole tokenism debate. On the one hand, I would like to see more fleshing out of a character dealing with their sexuality. On the other hand...do they always need to? I mean there are black characters in fighting games and they don't exactly flesh out their race and any experiences related to their race. Why not just let them have a gay character who just happens to be gay, end of story? We have plenty of characters who just happen to be heterosexual, end of story, why not the other way around?

It's a lose, lose situation then. If you just put in their gay without using it to develop the backstory, you get accused of just shoeing it in. If you do use the fact that their gay as part of their backstory, you're accused of trying to shove a person's sexuality into their face. In both cases, you're accused of just adding a token character.

No matter what you do, there will always be somebody out there who are against a gay character and will find some way to be against said gay character while JUST skirting the line of being a bigot.

 

[DerangedHobo]

Pssst. Every time a character's main motivation is "MY WIFE IS DEAD" that's their sexuality coming up as a central character trait.

That seems to be the loss of a loved one coming up, while it is bringing up sexuality by proxy it is completely inconsequential what gender they are unless they died due to their sexuality.

 

[The Wooster]

Please, for the love of god, let the people making comments about how they don't care be doing it in jest.

 

[GrumbleGrump]

Is he stereotypically gay? How is he identified as such in the game?

They really don't draw much attention to it. This is the only reference to it in game.

Holy shit I did not pick up on that.