OnLive Founder Claims "Impossible" Wireless Breakthrough

[Biosophilogical]

Well, now maybe he should work on transferring solid objects through cellular signals. I'm pretty sure he can do it.

I'd rather he upgrade to transmitting solid objects through solid objects. One day we can transport information through matter, the next we can transport matter through matter.

OT: If this works I just want a mobile-plan that gives me decent internet speeds with reliable connectivity.

EDIT:

I'll believe it when he becomes a trillionaire.

What about when he dies before the launch?

 

[Griffolion]

If he's not full of hot air, this is very exciting.

 

[ph0b0s123]

This sounds like a vapour-ware announcement to me. But most of the on-line game streaming company claims, no discernible lag etc, seem like that to me. But we will see when it is launched, am happy to be proved wrong. You will be able to tell if it is vapour-ware by if the launch date keeps getting pushed back.....

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

I find this hard to believe. Than again i find half the technological advances in the past 10 years almost impossible to believe.

Might be true might be false. We'll see.

 

[tkioz]

I don't know why anyone is shocked that someone is "breaking" the laws of physics, my High School science teacher always hammered into us that they aren't really laws, more rough guidelines based on what we currently know, and that as much as we know about the natural universe we likely only know a tiny faction of what is knowable.

Of course, it's a tech company so I'll believe it after unbiased peer review study.

 

[draythefingerless]

yes i was surprised by OnLive too, until i found out you need really good internet and living in a good USA city to have a good reception. OnLive right now is the equivalent of high class restaurants. Sure, theyre good and worth it, but only if you live in the big city where they are. Otherwise, taking a hundred mile trip just to eat filet mignon at 100 dollars isnt worth it. and neither is OnLive.

I have OnLive and they have had their connection issues when they first started (the occasional timeouts and lag). At this point though, its really easy to connect and play at a fairly fast rate. I have cable internet, but its Comcast and has download speeds as fast as 8MBPS (at 2AM when no one is on) and as slow as 1-2MBPS (normally) and OnLive works just fine for me. Now, is this for super competitive gamers that are used to perfect connections and crazy smooth frame rates?.... No, but it hasn't been advertised as that either.

They offer gaming to people on a budget and more casual gamers in a much better package than buying a $60 game to only beat it in 2 days. Again, they are still working out the kinks, but it is a really interesting service that if expanded upon (a game developed just for OnLive, with lifelike graphics, more titles, etc.) could really make some waves in the industry and take it to another level.

true, but casual gamers already have their games almost for free and you will never need a super computer to play it. the market OnLive is aiming for doesnt exist.maybe in 10 years, when everyone has good internet connection, then theyll have good market potential. right now, no one will waste money on it to get shitty lag in multiplayer or just to get singleplayer games at a slightly cheaper price, but still you gotta pay for the service.

 

[Akisa]

Won't happen.
Even if he does succeed, he will be crushed by the other providers.
The reason behind that is that if he succeeds, a large precent of the profits will decline for the cell phone companies.
A comparison can be seen in the automobile market where a fuel efficient engine is not invented for the fear that Oil companies will lose their profits therefore fuel efficient engines don't exist (commercially, there is very little research or SERIOUS research.).

We'll wait and see how this gladiatoral fight will continue.

Emmm why not it'll help cut cost by reducing the amount of cell towers, which reduces maintenance cost while still charging the public at the same or higher price. People still use data plans and do you really think companies will reduce their prices because operating costs are lower?

 

[TheIronRuler]

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Emmm why not it'll help cut cost by reducing the amount of cell towers, which reduces maintenance cost while still charging the public at the same or higher price. People still use data plans and do you really think companies will reduce their prices because operating costs are lower?

You'd THINK it's great and economic, but did you considr the costs for REMOVING the antennas?
Replacing them with a small router box is cheap, but removing all of the antennas from the roofs of buildings breaks contracts and requires money.

 

[slader236]

Here's a video of the unveiling of this DIDO tech, the part about the wireless tech starts at the 55 minute mark:
http://onlivespot.blogspot.com/2011/06/steve-perlman-unveils-amazing-new.html

 

[Ironic]

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Emmm why not it'll help cut cost by reducing the amount of cell towers, which reduces maintenance cost while still charging the public at the same or higher price. People still use data plans and do you really think companies will reduce their prices because operating costs are lower?

You'd THINK it's great and economic, but did you considr the costs for REMOVING the antennas?
Replacing them with a small router box is cheap, but removing all of the antennas from the roofs of buildings breaks contracts and requires money.

However revolutionary the technology is, Iron has a point. The contracts with the companies that make/relpace/maintain those boxes will have to be fulfilled, so depending on how long those are, It would still probably take 2-5 years for the consumer to see any benefit. You might see a partial rollout as a compliment to current systems though, as a trial maybe. Each mobile and internet company wants an advantage, so I wouldn't be surprised if they offered this as a premium service on top of their old.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

Perpetual energy machines.

That limit is not something you break. I'll remain skeptical, but even if they did discover something allowing communication like they describe, it's pretty fucking unlikely to be through something that invalidates the Shannon-Hartley theorem.

 

[saregos]

Ok... Reading the claims, there's absolutely nothing extraordinary about the patent as it stands. And it's certainly not capable of breaking Shannon's Law.

So... the guy either 1) doesn't understand the patent, or 2) is lying.

 

[gbemery]

Oh great now after they get this setup imagine how much we will hear on the news about this being the next big cancer worry. :/

 

[craddoke]

Is it just me or does this sound a little like a Tesla claim?

The same exact analogy popped into my head, too.

And did Tesla not do some awesome stuff? I think an AC generator was once said to be impossible.

There's no question that Tesla was awesome - partly because he always dreamed bigger than he could possibly deliver. Sometimes, though, he seemed to think that stating something was possible was the same as proving it so. This seems very similar.

 

[Bobbity]

Really hoping that this is legitimate, even if my provider would put off switching to it for decades so as to milk every last dollar from me.

 

[DracoSuave]

Perpetual energy machines.

That limit is not something you break. I'll remain skeptical, but even if they did discover something allowing communication like they describe, it's pretty fucking unlikely to be through something that invalidates the Shannon-Hartley theorem.

A thousand people talking on a thousand celphones "break" Shannon's Law all the time.

Increased number of signals = increased bandwidth.

I'm not a skeptic of whether the technology can work; it's so obvious a solution that I'm surprised it doesn't exist yet.

 

[aashell13]

to say that he broke the laws of physics is kinda deceptive. He probably just found some way to bypass one or more of the assumptions behind the original analysis. that kind of thing happens fairly often in science and engineering. assuming this is all true, of course.

 

[Plurralbles]

all well and good but telecom companies will still overcharge us and only give us 1% of its potential with a tiny cap.