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Teddy Roosevelt

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Khedive Rex said:
It's not listed, but its my favortie position in Diplomacy so I figured I'd ask, is Turkey a playable faction?

Hyper-realistically (which appears to be what you're going for), Turkish forces in 1945 were still using World War 1 era equipment which would have made them far less effective in combat. That being said though, Turkey would have controlled the shortest (and therefore most efficient) land route between the North African theater of war and the European theater of war in addition to the Dardanelles (which dictated access to the Black Sea and the trade/military advantages associated therewith.) They were also Europe's top producer, and concequently exporter, of chromite which is a necessary ingredient for hard steels and therefore invaluable to a military effort. They were one of the only countries (besides the USSR themselves) with a real shot at capturing Middle Eastern oil reserves; and therefore would be one of the only countries with the ability to challenge Soviet expansion in that area (keeping Soviet resources more limited). And if they were to recieve more modern weapons and equipment from Western nations they could have been an invaluable asset in flanking Soviet forces.

All together, in terms of the game and Operation Unthinkable, I can see them being similar to the Wehrmacht: Naturally positioned in a place that gives them a lot of influence and import, but hopeless without help.
I suppose Turkey could have been a faction, but I'm not sure. Plus, having not actually participated in the fighting, Turkish forces would be ill-mobilized and thus ineffective in the opening stages of the attack, which depended on pre-existing forces stationed in Europe to strike the Red Army before it could make its advance. Furthermore, in terms of supplies, getting equipment to Turkey would be very difficult, with the Soviets just to the north in the Causcasus, though I suppose it would be possible.

Anyway, Turkey, while not decidedly a neutral nation in this, would not be able to play a very large role in the war, given that an assault over the Causcasus Mountains would be nearly impossible, so I'd much rather we stick with the more major nations. In fact, we need someone to play as the British before we can begin, since that faction is large enough to be one of the major players that had to be a part of the historical war. In fact, given that France has only one army in the field, the French would be included under British command, since we are so short on people. As you can see, I have put many of my smaller factions under British control for the sake of having them all active in order to proceed with the war. I also removed India because, as of yet, it is too small to be worthwhile to have on the list. Other factions that I have on hold should the thread really pick up in number of players are Italy, Greece, possibly the Finns, though I need to look into Finland, bringing back India, and the separation of Australia and New Zealand into two playable factions rather than one.

In short, yes, Turkey is playable, but it is so far down on my list of factions to get involved I am going to say no for right now. Sorry.

However, I think we'd love it if you could take over Britain for us.
 

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Teddy Roosevelt said:
However, I think we'd love it if you could take over Britain for us.
I must admit, I'm highly considering it. The only reason I haven't already is that its a very major role in the war and I'm not sure I'm the kind of person you're ideally looking for. So, I'm going to describe myself and my style real quick and if you think it will work I'll be happy to take the role. If not, I'll be happy to watch.

My pre-existing knowledge of tanks, guns, planes and missiles is almost non-existant. I couldn't tell you half of the weapons that were being used at the time or what about them was superior to the other weapons of the war. I've really no idea what makes a Panzer special other than that its a German tank; issues of comparative speed, caliber, maneuverability and the like are lost on me.

I find the logistical end of warfare the most fascinating part. Imagining the orchestration of resources that need to be refined, manufactured and shipped and how to prevent them being refined manufactured or shipped (whether through militaristic, diplomatic or, my personal favorite, economic ends) is what my real focus is by way of tactics. I wouldn't know what kind of rifle to provide my troops so they could penetrate the right kind of tank, but I could think of four or five ways to make sure enemy forces are overworked and underfed by the time they get to me.

I play a lot with terrain when I get the opportunity. Breaking damns to flood valleys so that troops movement is slower through those areas, that kind of thing. If the winter is particularly cold or something I'll always try to use that to my advantage.

As for my writing style, I'm a RP'er far more than I'm a war historian. If something is dramatically interesting I'll inevitably try to come up with some justification for doing it, whether it is as efficient as other plans or not.

If its any help, my favorite war game is Diplomacy.

In the absence of serious economic concerns, struggles over resources which dictate exactly how many weapons you are capable of producing and how many soldiers are realistically going hungry, logical and vital supply lines, countries who can be bartered with and soldiers/civilians whose morale can be manipulated, I'm basically shit and will definitely bring down the quality of the RP. If you're planning on having it run like a game of Axis & Allies, you absolutely don't want me.

If you plan to delve into the stuff above, than you might want me.
 
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Teddy Roosevelt said:
However, I think we'd love it if you could take over Britain for us.
My pre-existing knowledge of tanks, guns, planes and missiles is almost non-existant. I couldn't tell you half of the weapons that were being used at the time or what about them was superior to the other weapons of the war. I've really no idea what makes a Panzer special other than that its a German tank; issues of comparative speed, caliber, maneuverability and the like are lost on me.

I play a lot with terrain when I get the opportunity. Breaking damns to flood valleys so that troops movement is slower through those areas, that kind of thing. If the winter is particularly cold or something I'll always try to use that to my advantage.

In the absence of serious economic concerns, struggles over resources which dictate exactly how many weapons you are capable of producing and how many soldiers are realistically going hungry, logical and vital supply lines, countries who can be bartered with and soldiers/civilians whose morale can be manipulated, I'm basically shit and will definitely bring down the quality of the RP. If you're planning on having it run like a game of Axis & Allies, you absolutely don't want me.

If you plan to delve into the stuff above, than you might want me.
Not to speak for Teddy, I dont particularly have any knowledge of guns or the like. All I really know is that the bigger the size the bigger the boom :) Also if you read our initial plan, it has alot to do with terrain and cutting off Russian supply lines. In fact, the hardest part of our campaign will probably be in Czekoslovakia over the oil there. I don't want to say that you'd be good in the role of Britian, but I'm pretty sure logistics will play a huge part in this game. I mean when you're fighting a giagantic beast, the only way to win is to hamstring it. Not that my opinion has any effect in the end. Just trying to persaude you, I mean really, you should give it a shot.
 

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Teddy Roosevelt said:
However, I think we'd love it if you could take over Britain for us.
I must admit, I'm highly considering it. The only reason I haven't already is that its a very major role in the war and I'm not sure I'm the kind of person you're ideally looking for. So, I'm going to describe myself and my style real quick and if you think it will work I'll be happy to take the role. If not, I'll be happy to watch.

My pre-existing knowledge of tanks, guns, planes and missiles is almost non-existant. I couldn't tell you half of the weapons that were being used at the time or what about them was superior to the other weapons of the war. I've really no idea what makes a Panzer special other than that its a German tank; issues of comparative speed, caliber, maneuverability and the like are lost on me.

I find the logistical end of warfare the most fascinating part. Imagining the orchestration of resources that need to be refined, manufactured and shipped and how to prevent them being refined manufactured or shipped (whether through militaristic, diplomatic or, my personal favorite, economic ends) is what my real focus is by way of tactics. I wouldn't know what kind of rifle to provide my troops so they could penetrate the right kind of tank, but I could think of four or five ways to make sure enemy forces are overworked and underfed by the time they get to me.

I play a lot with terrain when I get the opportunity. Breaking damns to flood valleys so that troops movement is slower through those areas, that kind of thing. If the winter is particularly cold or something I'll always try to use that to my advantage.

As for my writing style, I'm a RP'er far more than I'm a war historian. If something is dramatically interesting I'll inevitably try to come up with some justification for doing it, whether it is as efficient as other plans or not.

If its any help, my favorite war game is Diplomacy.

In the absence of serious economic concerns, struggles over resources which dictate exactly how many weapons you are capable of producing and how many soldiers are realistically going hungry, logical and vital supply lines, countries who can be bartered with and soldiers/civilians whose morale can be manipulated, I'm basically shit and will definitely bring down the quality of the RP. If you're planning on having it run like a game of Axis & Allies, you absolutely don't want me.

If you plan to delve into the stuff above, than you might want me.
Not to sound mocking, but what do you think war is? If war is anything, it is logistics. It is the movement of troops, the positioning of supplies, and such. I will provide other information, and, as the text boxes are only to provide basic information, I can add for you specific armaments of your troops and what their advantages are. However, above all else, a supreme commander needs to know logistics.

However, if you really think you'd be better not taking control of Britain, you know, for the sake of a successful thread, as you seem to say above, you can take France instead. They are the next faction below Britain, so you can have some use for your logistics while not dragging the thread down.
 

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Icarion said:
I don't want to say that you'd be good in the role of Britian, but I'm pretty sure logistics will play a huge part in this game. I mean when you're fighting a giagantic beast, the only way to win is to hamstring it. Not that my opinion has any effect in the end. Just trying to persaude you, I mean really, you should give it a shot.
Teddy Roosevelt said:
Not to sound mocking, but what do you think war is? If war is anything, it is logistics. It is the movement of troops, the positioning of supplies, and such. I will provide other information, and, as the text boxes are only to provide basic information, I can add for you specific armaments of your troops and what their advantages are. However, above all else, a supreme commander needs to know logistics.
In that case I will take Britain. I'm actually pretty excited for this. I wasn't sure because I've tried to play war games in the past and they've always sort of boiled down to the stuff I'm unfamiliar with. If this is going to include the stuff I'm actually good at though, then yeah, I'm definitely in.

You had the map of armies earlier in the thread, do you have a similar map for navies? Our ground forces are definitely going to be the brunt of action in the begining considering we're repelling Russia from Central Europe but if we're successful in that, ships will start to become more interesting.

And do we know what the pacific theater looks like?
 

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Khedive Rex said:
Icarion said:
I don't want to say that you'd be good in the role of Britian, but I'm pretty sure logistics will play a huge part in this game. I mean when you're fighting a giagantic beast, the only way to win is to hamstring it. Not that my opinion has any effect in the end. Just trying to persaude you, I mean really, you should give it a shot.
Teddy Roosevelt said:
Not to sound mocking, but what do you think war is? If war is anything, it is logistics. It is the movement of troops, the positioning of supplies, and such. I will provide other information, and, as the text boxes are only to provide basic information, I can add for you specific armaments of your troops and what their advantages are. However, above all else, a supreme commander needs to know logistics.
In that case I will take Britain. I'm actually pretty excited for this. I wasn't sure because I've tried to play war games in the past and they've always sort of boiled down to the stuff I'm unfamiliar with. If this is going to include the stuff I'm actually good at though, then yeah, I'm definitely in.

You had the map of armies earlier in the thread, do you have a similar map for navies? Our ground forces are definitely going to be the brunt of action in the begining considering we're repelling Russia from Central Europe but if we're successful in that, ships will start to become more interesting.

And do we know what the pacific theater looks like?
Icarion said:
Welcome aboard Rex! This will be one hell of a journey! And how big of a role is the Pacific campaign gonna play in our game?
To answer both of your questions about the Pacific in general, yes, we do know more or less the beginning formation of the Pacific Theater, but I don't have time to update that right now. Nor do I have accurate naval maps. Also, considering that most of the push to Moscow will be in the European Theater, the Pacific will be second priority to the Allies, but at the same time a Soviet dominance will mean the defeat of the United States, in essence. So, the Pacific will play a small role in your offensive components, but it will be an important defensive theater, and if the war starts to turn your way, an Eastern Offensive may prove useful.
 

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OOC:What do Gaurds, Shock and, Gaurd Tanks mean in terms of operationable capabilites? Also what is the disposition of Romanian and Yugoslavian troops?
Sorry to respond so late. I didn't even see this until now.

The Soviet forces operate three kinds of special units: guard, shock, and guards tank. There are also regular and reserve armies involved, but those are just what they seem. The special units have some operational potential that is of concern to Allied planning. Basically, both guards and guards tank armies are the elite forces of the Red Army. They are the more experienced and better equipped veteran troops. Of course, guards tank would imply an emphasis on armored specialties. Now, shock armies are similar, but not really as elite as guards armies. Instead, shock armies, or just shock units in general are specialized in offensive punches. They are like guards armies for offensive spearheads.

The Romanian, Yugoslavian, and Bulgarian troops can bee seen behind and on the southern flank of my lines, respectively. The two Romanian armies, like the four or five Yugoslavian and one Bulgarian army, are allied forces with the Soviet armies, similar to the two Polish armies I have. They are not as well equipped or trained as regular Soviet armies, so they represent weak points in my forces. Of course, my Polish troops (which are seen on the map as white numbers on red flags, so hard to distinguish from yellow on red) are somewhat better than the Romanians, Yugoslavs, and Bulgarians, and they are also amongst my masses of troops, so they are not, per sé, a weak point in my line.

As a closing point, we are now ready to begin. I will kick this off tomorrow after school. Continue planning as long as you like, but I will set up the role play.
 

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Are you still accepting? I'd like to take up the role of Britain, but I'll need a run-down on what kind of troops I have (I'm not very strong on the World War history)
 
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ThreeWords said:
Are you still accepting? I'd like to take up the role of Britain, but I'll need a run-down on what kind of troops I have (I'm not very strong on the World War history)
Rex took Britian, but there are other factions. I'm not in charge though.
 

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Are you still accepting? I'd like to take up the role of Britain, but I'll need a run-down on what kind of troops I have (I'm not very strong on the World War history)
Sorry, Britain was just taken yesterday, and a claim for France was just PMed to me. However, Canada and Australia/New Zealand are available.
 

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As my opening post was so overflowed with awesome, I need to repeat the faction information. I shall do so here:

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The United States is, without a doubt, the juggernaut of Western Allies and champion of the Pacific War. However, in 1941, the United States military was a meager force, one that could hardly be considered a threat to either the Japanese Empire or the mighty Wehrmacht. Even so, Americans had been preparing for war since the very late thirties. Japanese expansion in the far east led to the gathering of the American Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbor. On Sunday, December 7, 1941, a Japanese fleet centered around four aircraft carriers launched hundreds of war planes on a massive surprise attack against American warships. The United States was at war.

Inexplicably, Hitler declared war on the US soon afterward. However, American troops knew only defeat for the rest of 1941 and early 1942. The Japanese crushed American forces on multiple islands in the Pacific, including Wake Island, Guam, and the Philippines. In mid-1942, the United States dealt a crushing blow to the Japanese navy at Midway, sinking four Imperial Fleet carriers. The tide had turned in the Pacific. The next year, the American advance through the Soloman Islands and the Marianas got underway. In 1944, the island of Saipan was taken. Earlier this year, the Americans overwhelmed stubborn Japanese defenses on the tiny island of Iwo Jima. Even now, in May of 1945, the Americans are locked in a bloody struggle against fierce Japanese resistance on Okinawa. While the war drags on, Japan was doomed from day one. Against the incredible industrial potential of the United States, the small Japanese Empire was, and is as nothing. That potential has since been awakened, and Japan has already paid the price in the blood of its people and the ruins of its cities. Japanese naval and air forces have been nearly destroyed, and American bombers lay waste to the Home Islands at will. It is only a matter of time before Japan falls, but at what cost to the Americans?

Unlike the war in the Pacific, which was active against the Americans right from Pearl Harbor, the European Theater did not see American involvement until Operation: Torch, in November of 1942. While the Desert Rats of the British 8th Army, under General Sir Bernard Montgomery, pressed across Libya against the feared and veteran, though now exhausted and demoralized, troops of Germany's vaunted Afrika Korps under Generalfeldmarschall Erwin Rommel, American troops, led by General Dwight D. Eisenhower, made dual landings in Vichy French-controlled Morocco and Algeria. Encountering little or no resistance from the French, and even having the armies of Vichy defect form the Axis and join the Allied cause, American troops advanced with high morale. However, the Americans were given a rude shock in the mountains of Tunisia when Rommel dealt them a crushing blow in Kasserine Pass. American forces regrouped, and Rommel lacked the strength to keep up the offensive. In early 1943, the Afrika Korps was crushed by a coordinated offensive from American and British forces. Next came Operation: Husky, the invasion of Sicily. American and British troops quickly pushed through the fragile Italian defenders, finding the only real resistance to be from three German Panzergrenadier divisions from the Luftwaffe. The later invasion of the Italian mainland put American troops up against fierce defenses led by the Luftwaffe's Field Marshal Albert Kesselring.

In 1944, the Americans formed the bulk of Allied forces participating in Operation: Overlord, the invasion of Normandy. By now, American forces were at the very least blooded by combat against the Germans, though many were still green. Fighting in France continued from June of 1944 into 1945. Now, American troops stand ready to guide the Western Allies into the abyss, as the war against Stalin's Red Army will be more brutal than anything seen in the fight against Germany.

In May of 1945, the United States is the greatest industrial power in the world. This trait will come in handy when fighting the nation with the world's largest capacity for military manpower. The United States currently holds between 65 and 70 divisions in the European Theater. These forces include, as a result of being the largest Allied faction against the Soviets in Europe, the majority of Allied armor. American Shermans are the western equivalent of the Soviet T-34, though the armor of American tanks is dangerously inferior to that of Soviet tanks. The Sherman is a renowned deathtrap. Even so, the United States and Britain have the capacity to pump these tanks onto the battlefield via industrial superiority. As far as armament, the Sherman tank, with a 76.2mm main gun, is exactly equal to that of the T-34. Both tanks are mechanically reliable, as well. As mentioned above, Sherman armor is vastly inferior to T-34 armor, however, the front armor of the Sherman is at least capable of solid defense. It is the side and rear armor that is especially vulnerable, even though those areas are usually weak on tanks. The front armor can withstand some damage from a long range, but short and medium range shots from the 76.2mm gun will punch through the Sherman. The advantage of the American M4A3E8 (standard Sherman, mass produced for frontline service, 76.2mm gun) is its simplicity. Is is easy to train men to use it, and replacing losses in the field is not difficult.

The newer American heavy tank which will prove vital in the field for defeating the Soviet armored formations is the M26 Pershing. With the thickest armor at 110mm, the Pershing is able to withstand the T-34 from a decent range, and its 90mm M3 main gun is comparable in firepower to the 8.8cm anti-tank gun of the German Panzer VI Tiger tanks.

American infantry are all around well equipped soldiers. The American Army is the only army of World War II to have semi-automatic rifles as the standard infantry weapon. While this will by no means be the deciding factor of the whole war, the quality of American troops will contribute to the defeat of Soviet forces in the opening stages of Operation: Unthinkable.

In addition to its assets on the ground, both the US Army Air Force and its potential for air superiority provide a huge tool for the Allies to exploit. Together, the USAAF and the RAF hold sufficient firepower to deal a massive blow to the Soviet air forces. The Soviet Union has a considerably larger number of air planes available for deployment to Europe, but American and British aircraft are well maintained and are better armed, armored, and generally designed than Soviet planes, and their pilots are just as capable as those of the Soviets, but even more likely better trained than Russian pilots. While, given Stalin's capacity to maintain Zhukov's frontline strength for an incredible period by reinforcing his air power, air superiority will hardly be achieved by either side so long as both parties have industrial potential left untapped, liberal use of American air power will be necessary to keep the Red Army under pressure. Without air support, there can be no victory.

Meanwhile, in the Pacific, American forces are advancing on Japanese forces in two prongs. The two American Pacific War command Areas are the South West Pacific Command Area, led by General Douglas MacArthur, and the Pacific Ocean Area, led by Admiral Chester Nimitz. The South West Pacific Area contains 15 US Army divisions of the American 6th and 8th Armies, supported by the 1st and 2nd Australian Armies. In addition, the US 5th, 13th, and 7th Air Forces take part in this southern prong. In the Pacific Ocean Area, which is the area from which American forces advance in a westward-moving prong from the Central Pacific, Nimitz commands five US Army infantry divisions and six Marine divisions.

In fighting the enemy in Asia, US forces will need to link up with the British 11th Army Group from Burma and join the Chinese in fighting the Soviets, plus 35 Japanese Imperial Army divisions still in Manchuria and China, as the Soviets will almost certainly form an alliance with the Japanese and add their numbers to the Communist ranks.

The United States bears the burden of this whole operation. It must use the sheer overwhelming might of its industry to supply, almost single handed, the majority of all Allied forces in Europe and East Asia. Luckily, the United States has massive amounts of natural resources, including almost 75% of the world's oil (I know, shocker). It is the duty of the US to give its Allies the materials necessary to keep war industries running. Without full American participation, the Allied cause is hopeless.
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Great Britain, having been fighting in WWII since 1939, officially, and first seeing action in 1940, is the second largest faction of the Western Allies. While having contributed only 25% to the total war effort of the European theater, the rest being deployed by the United States, participation by the British is crucial to the success of Operation: Unthinkable.

Currently, British forces in the European Theater include the 8th Army, near the Italian-Yugoslavian border, and the 2nd Army just east of the Elbe River at Hamburg. In addition, British forces command the Canadian 1st Army near the Dutch border. In all, British forces, meaning the 8th and 2nd Armies, include around 20 divisions, though reinforcements may increase that number by as much as ten by August 1945.

British troops use different equipment than American troops. The standard service rifle is the Lee Enfield bolt action, as opposed to the American M1 Garand. The British also use Bren light machine guns and cheap, stamped metal Sten guns. However in the grand scheme of the war, it is British armor which will decide the outcome of battle. British ground forces rely on three tanks to do their fighting. First off, there is the Churchill Mk VI infantry tank, which boasts a 75mm main gun, between 16 and 102mm of armor, and an on road speed of 24 km/h, or 15 mph. The infantry tank is used, as the name suggests, for infantry support, relying on armor and firepower to stay in the fight and do damage to enemy forces. In the Churchill's case, armor is not particularly special. It can withstand some damage from medium and small caliber guns, but the Soviet 76.2mm F-34 has the capacity to penetrate the Churchill's front armor at a practical range. Of course, the 85mm gun of the T-34/85 has a much better ability to penetrate armor, and the 122mm gun on the IS-2 will crack the Churchill like a tin can. That said, the Churchill is a capable war machine against most enemy tanks. In fact, the Churchill Mk VII variant, the Heavy Churchill, boasts 152mm front armor, meaning it can defeat some of the light Soviet rounds, especially the 76.2mm F-34. However, rear and side armor are still a concern, so tactically speaking, tank commanders should be wary of the maneuverable T-34. Next, the British have their Cromwell Mk VIII cruiser tank, also called a cavalry tank. These tanks boast the same 75mm main gun as the Churchill, but only 76mm of armor. However, the Cromwell boasts a considerably faster 64km/h on road (40mph). As one may have already guessed, the cruiser tank is used not for heavy fighting roles, but rather for quick movements and fast paced advances across terrain, striking the enemy where it hurts and getting out quickly before the enemy can bring his heavy guns to bear. As mentioned, the drawback to high speed is the lack of armor protection. 76mm of armor (according to Wikipedia. It gave no range, so I am going to assume76mm frontal armor and thinner on the sides and rear) will by no means defend against even the smaller caliber Soviet 45mm gun, which is used on tanks which are no longer in the service of the Red Army. The Cromwell may survive glancing hits or the occasional PTRS anti-tank rifle, but, generally, it has armor about as effective as aluminum foil. The Cromwell, however, being a tank, is superb against unsupported enemy infantry. If Soviet armor can be tied up or even wiped out by British heavy tanks, then the Cromwell can work wonders against Russian foot soldiers. Lastly, the British Army has the Sherman Firefly tank. The Sherman Firefly is essentially the same thing as the American M4A3 Sherman, but is modified by the British to be armed with the potent OQF 17-pounder (76.2mm) anti-tank gun. The 17-pdr is known to be the most effective anti-tank gun in the arsenal of the Western Allies. Therefore, the Firefly is a powerful force on the battlefield against enemy armor. In fact, in fighting against the Germans, it was the only British tank capable of penetrating the armor of Panther and Tiger tanks at standard, practical ranges. Paired with the decent frontal armor of the Sherman, the Firefly is arguably the most valuable British heavy tank on the battlefield, though its armor is surpassed by both Churchill variants.

To support the British troops on the ground is the great Royal Air Force, or RAF. In 1940, brave RAF fighter pilots from Britain, Poland, and other British territories fended off the waves of the German Luftwaffe. Later in the war, the ever growing RAF took part in the massive night-time bombing raids against Germany. The RAF boasts excellent fighters and bombers, plus well trained and skilled pilots. In May of 1945, the RAF operates thousands of aircraft, including famous bombers such as the Lancaster, and multirole aircraft such as the de Havilland Mosquito, which saw service in WWII as a night fighter and a bomber, and which could reach speeds in excess of 400mph. Now, these aircraft will be used to their full potential in breaking the Soviet will. In addition, the RAF operates superb fighter, mainly the Supermarine Spitfire Mk IX, a newer variant of the Spitfire Mk I which saw extensive action during the Battle of Britain.

In the Pacific Theater, British forces must follow American forces into battle if victory in the east is to be achieved. British forces in Burma include the British 11th Army Group, which is made up of British, Indians, and Australians. In addition, the Pacific Theater has access to RAF India for air support. In addition, the British command the 1st and 2nd Australian Armies following American General MacArthur on the southern advance on Japan.

In Europe, British forces are commanded by Field Marshal Sir Bernard Montgomery.
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Australia and New Zealand, both parts of the once mighty British Empire, are located next to each other in the South West Pacific, near Indonesia. Since the Japanese conquests of the region began in December of 1941, both of these British territories have fought to keep the Imperial forces back. Australia, though bombed by the Japanese air forces, was never directly attacked by troops. Nevertheless, Australian and New Zealander contribution to Britain's war has been valiant and desperate since day one, as British military leaders needed reinforcements in Europe and Asia to fight the two fangs of the Axis. Australians and New Zealanders fought well in North Africa and Italy, and later in the French Campaign of 1944.

Similarly, New Zealand and Australia were called upon to fight the forces of Imperial Japan in Burma, where the Axis troops threatened to invade the British territory of India. Later, in 1942, Australia contributed its 1st and 2nd Armies to the fight under the American General, Douglas MacArthur in his advance north in the South West Pacific Command Area, alongside the American 6th and 8th Armies which joined the region in 1943 and 1944.

These Australian Armies are still a part of MacArthur's force as it moves north with the troops of Admiral Chester Nimitz's Army and Marine forces of the Pacific Ocean Command Area now linked up.

To cover the forces in the SWPA (South West Pacific Area) stands the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) Command. In addition, Royal Navy forces along the Australian coast are commanded by Admiral Guy Royle.

(Refer to Great Britain faction for equipment information)
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I'm sorry. This is going to sound a cop out, but I'm not feeling great tonight. I can still get the thread ready to go, but I just don't have the energy to write a whole essay for France right now. So, I'm going to give you some base information, and I'll fix this problem tomorrow. Sorry about that.

French Weapons [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_World_War_II_infantry_weapons#France] can be found in this link. Also, that same page should include vehicles, though I've closed the tab so I can't be sure. I will say this.

In May of 1945, the only French forces in Europe are the Free French 1st Army, led by General Charles de Gaulle. The 1st Army is made up of French, Algerians, and Moroccans, and is what remains of the once great French Army. Equipment is much the same as that of the United States and Britain, though French troops, for the most part, retain their own weapons, especially the MAS-36.
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In September of 1939, Poland became the second nation attacked by an Axis nation in WWII (technically, China was first), and the German invasion sparked the largest war in the history of mankind. Under attack by Germany in the west and the Soviet Union in the east, Poland was fighting a losing battle. The government was able to escape and formed a new army in France. However, in June, 1940, France, too, succumbed to invasion by the Germans. The Polish government was forced to operate from Britain, where it rallied its available forces and, while in exile, cultivated its forces. In 1944, Polish forces, operating under British command, numbered 195,000. After seeing combat in France, the Poles saw their numbers drop to 165,000 total by 1945. By now, Polish forces have increased in number back to 195,000 in total, but they are expected to reach nearly 230,000 by June of this year (1945). Over the course of the war in the west, including the fighting in North Africa against the vaunted German Afrika Korps from 1941 to early 1943, the invasion of Sicily and later that of Italy in 1943, and combat in France in 1944, the Poles have proven themselves a competent fighting force, ready to right the wrongs committed against their nation. Now, however, it is the Stalin that refuses to split Poland into communist and western sectors as agreed at Yalta. Instead of Hitler, the Polish armies are prepared to turn their attention to the Red Army. If their country cannot be liberated correctly by the superpower of the east, then the Poles will simply do it themselves.

While under the authority of the British Empire, Polish formations operate as their own, and are considered their own, for the most part. However, they share much of the same equipment with the British. Their rifles are the same, their machine guns are the same, and their tanks are the same. This means that supply lines from the British for the British are much more efficient, and that provides benefits in efficiency for the Poles and everyone operating under British command.

Similarly, the Polish air forces operate as part of the RAF. The Poles, currently numbering 19,500, have long proven their worth as a part of the air war against Germany, and are prepared to continue doing so against the Red Army.
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Having been struggling with the Japanese Empire since 1937, the Chinese National Revolutionary Army is a fairly tired force. The NRA is one of the larger forces likely to join the fight against the Soviets, numbering between 3.5 and 4 million men, but it is also one of the most poorly equipped and trained factions. NRA ground troops use a wide variety of weapons [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_firearms_of_China], nearly all of which are licensed copies of outdated German firearms or weapons given by the Soviets and Americans to help the war against Japan. The same goes for artillery guns, which are essentially all Soviet made howitzers, and anti-tank weapons, which are mostly copies of German anti-tank guns as well as anti-tank rifles and full size anti-tank guns from the Soviets.

Chinese armored forces are made up mostly of American M3 Stuart light tanks, M4 Shermans, and M18 armored cars, as well as Soviet-built BT-series tanks and old T-26 light tanks.

The Chinese air forces operate only 700 aircraft, most of which are older American models and Soviet aircraft given earlier in the war.

Chinese tactics are probably more outdated than the weapons used by Chinese troops, resembling 19th Century warfare rather than 20th. Nevertheless, the Chinese are the only ones on the Asian mainland that the Americans and British can rely on to help stem the tide of the Red Army and, hopefully, bring an end to this new, even larger threat in World War II.
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Though by the beginning of Operation: Unthinkable, the German army is a defeated force, the allies plan to remobilize 100,000 German soldiers from POW camps to join the fight against the Soviet Union. While the German forces fought by the Russians in 1945 were increasingly composed of ill trained reservists and conscripts, the Germans captured in France, Belgium, Holland, and along the Rhine were still well trained, experienced troops, just as the Germans had been throughout the war until 1945. Even though the Western Allies were the enemy of Germany, these men will be more than willing to fight for the safety of Germany against the infinitely more ruthless Soviets, even alongside Americans and British. By May 18, these forces will still be a relatively ill-equipped force in terms of armored forces, and there are German aircraft to speak of. The infantry, however, are sufficiently equipped with weapons they know well. The German-made Karabiner 98k, Maschinenpistole MP-40, and Panzerfaust disposable anti-tank weapon all make their returns to the battlefield. In addition, the Germans retain some of their Gewehr 43 semi-automatic rifles, Maschinengewehr MG-34 machine guns, and even a handful of their MP-44 assault rifles.

As far as vehicles, the German troops are badly hindered by their losses in 1944 and 1945. Trucks and halftracks are easy enough for the Allies, though mainly just the Western Germans, to replenish. The important arsenal of combat vehicles available to the Wehrmacht is, as yet, limited. For the most part, armored combat will initially be dominated by the remaining German Sd.Kfz. 234/1 and 234/2 Puma armored cars, each variant designed similarly though armed with a 2cm and a 5cm main gun respectively, in addition to the leftover arsenal of German Sturmgeschutz IV assault guns (StuG IV) and what remains of the Wehrmacht's Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf. J tanks.

Similarly, the Wehrmacht is currently underequipped as far as artillery goes, though German forces retain their vaunted FlaK 36 88mm anti-air/anti-tank gun. In addition, the Wehrmacht has many of the anti-tank guns used in the war before its defeat, including the Pak-38, Pak-40, and a few Pak-43 88mm anti-tank guns. For the most part, the FlaK 36 is expected to take a front row seat, as it gives flexible defense against both tanks and aircraft.

The Luftwaffe has clearly taken the largest hit from the war. As yet, there are no German aircraft in operation to serve any real purpose. There are no German bombers left from the war, and the remainder of German fighter command is currently in the hands of the RAF, so that it may be well trained over the course of its reconstruction. At the start of the Allied offensive, the Luftwaffe will consist of two observation aircraft and one squadron made up of a flight of five Messerschmitt Bf-109E fighters and part of another flight of two Focke-Wulf Fw-190D fighters. While more aircraft exist, there are no German pilots ready to fly them. There are three Messerschmitt Me-262 jet fighters that can be committed to battle with trained pilots, but the RAF is more willing to wait on the completion of a rebuilt Luftwaffe before handing it over to the Wehrmacht.

Ideally, the Allies will need to push Soviet forces out of Germany. This will allow more efficient reconstruction of the industry of the Ruhr region in Western Germany. Once the German industry is at least partially rebuilt, the Wehrmacht will find itself better equipped to join in against the ferocious Red Army. For this task, the Western Allies have provided a fitting commander: Generalfeldmarschall Erich von Manstein, an accomplished field marshal of the Nazi Wehrmacht, having seen combat in Poland in 1939, in France from May to June of 1940, and, most importantly, against the Soviet Union on the Eastern Front from June of 1941 to March of 1944, when he was relieved of command by Hitler. Still, throughout his career, Erich von Manstein proved his worth as one of the Wehrmacht's brightest strategic commanders. Before the total advance of the Soviet Union earlier this year, von Manstein took his family and moved west. At only 57 years old, he is the best choice of leaders for the remobilized Wehrmacht, and has already been contacted by the Allied commanders through his British captors. Already, he is preparing for his assault on the Red Army at the head of all of that remains of Germany's former might.
 

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It's alright if you don't write half a novel for France, I already know a little about it and i can do some studying on my own.
 

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Teddy Roosevelt said:
It's alright if you don't write half a novel for France, I already know a little about it and i can do some studying on my own.
Alright, thanks.

Let's get this thread moving:

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May, 1945

The forces of Nazi Germany have finally been defeated. After years of fighting, the German military force has been crushed, and it is time to rebuild Europe. However, to the Western Allies, that means beating back the juggernaut of the Soviet Union and neutralizing the real threat to world peace. By the end of the war against Germany, Europe is divided into a communist east and a capitalist west. The United States and Britain dominate the western half of Germany, and the Red Army the east. The leader of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, has shown to the Western Allies that he is not a trustworthy man, and his massive forces in Europe threaten the security of the entire free world. The Allies have made plans to destroy the Soviet Union by launching a pre-emptive strike in Europe to free Poland and the Balkans, then drive ever eastward to Moscow. Even with their entire coalition, the Western Allies stand vastly outnumbered. Even so, the plans for the commencement of Operation: Unthinkable are set to begin before dawn on May 18, 1945.
 
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Dear Fellow fighters of Soviet Russia,
The Wermacht is ready to perpatrate an attack against Soviet held Eastern Germany. We will work closely in colaboration with the American 1st army. While the American 9th army launches its attack over the Elbe, we will circle around the main conflict and strike at Berlin from the South. Once we have taken Berlin the Wermacht will push East, in hopes of meeting up with the Polish armies and securing all Northern passage into Europe. We will ideally be able to dig in on the Vistula River, giving us a defined defensive position, while at the same time securing Warsaw. The other details are outlined in the general attack plan developed in early planning. I do urge both Britian and America to look into launching a surprise air attack against Soviet arifields, and thus limiting the amount of air power the Soviets will be able to deploy. Ideally, once the British 8th, aided by the French 1st, has broken through Yugoslavia they will push on through Romania and grab the strip of coast on the Black sea detailed earlier, cutting off all Soviet reinforcements to Eastern Europe.
Fieldmarshal Erich von Manstien
 

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Hello, Fieldmarshal. I am very glad that you are willing to join us in this fight to liberate Europe from it's oppressors. We, however, as the commanders of the American First army, were to use them in the imminent attack on the Russian 33rd army to flank the main enemy force separating the 9nth and Berlin. Both forces will be crucial in the battle for your capital city, and we hope you can understand the lack of aid available for your forces until we are able to regroup with our forces in Europe and silence the Japanese forces in the Pacific theater of war. We hope to accomplish the second goal before the end of May.

Godspeed.
~Harry S. Truman.

I hope that this is how we are supposed to post in the beginning, though I can change it to how it is needed if not so. This looks like it will be at least an interesting experience, so here it goes.
 

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Hello, Fieldmarshal. I am very glad that you are willing to join us in this fight to liberate Europe from it's oppressors. We, however, as the commanders of the American First Platoon, were to use them in the imminent attack on the Russian 33rd Platoon to flank the main enemy force separating the 9nth and Berlin. Both forces will be crucial in the battle for your capital city, and we hope you can understand the lack of aid available for your forces until we are able to regroup with our forces in Europe and silence the Japanese forces in the Pacific theater of war. We hope to accomplish the second goal before the end of May.

Godspeed.
~Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

I hope that this is how we are supposed to post in the beginning, though I can change it to how it is needed if not so. This looks like it will be at least an interesting experience, so here it goes.
Well, communications can go however you like. And, just a tip, when talking grand strategy, platoon isn't really a good idea. Just for your benefit, since a platoon is about 32 guys. I think you mean Army. Here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Hierarchy_of_modern_armies] is a list of military unit sizes. For most of your work, you would use between Army and Division, but in battle, you could use most other units practically.

Also, you reminded me, so thank you. The atomic bombs will be dropped as they were in real life: On August 6 and 9.

Anyway, in general, you can just use the posts normally, without using a spoiler box, but spoilers are good to specify who you are speaking to.
 

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CloggedDonkey said:
Hello, Fieldmarshal. I am very glad that you are willing to join us in this fight to liberate Europe from it's oppressors. We, however, as the commanders of the American First Platoon, were to use them in the imminent attack on the Russian 33rd Platoon to flank the main enemy force separating the 9nth and Berlin. Both forces will be crucial in the battle for your capital city, and we hope you can understand the lack of aid available for your forces until we are able to regroup with our forces in Europe and silence the Japanese forces in the Pacific theater of war. We hope to accomplish the second goal before the end of May.

Godspeed.
~Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

I hope that this is how we are supposed to post in the beginning, though I can change it to how it is needed if not so. This looks like it will be at least an interesting experience, so here it goes.
Well, communications can go however you like. And, just a tip, when talking grand strategy, platoon isn't really a good idea. Just for your benefit, since a platoon is about 32 guys. I think you mean Army. Here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Hierarchy_of_modern_armies] is a list of military unit sizes. For most of your work, you would use between Army and Division, but in battle, you could use most other units practically.

Also, you reminded me, so thank you. The atomic bombs will be dropped as they were in real life: On August 6 and 9.

Anyway, in general, you can just use the posts normally, without using a spoiler box, but spoilers are good to specify who you are speaking to.
Thanks, and, if you notice, I used the wrong president. I'll stick to spoiler boxes for communication, though, and fix the mistake.
 

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Teddy Roosevelt said:
CloggedDonkey said:
Hello, Fieldmarshal. I am very glad that you are willing to join us in this fight to liberate Europe from it's oppressors. We, however, as the commanders of the American First Platoon, were to use them in the imminent attack on the Russian 33rd Platoon to flank the main enemy force separating the 9nth and Berlin. Both forces will be crucial in the battle for your capital city, and we hope you can understand the lack of aid available for your forces until we are able to regroup with our forces in Europe and silence the Japanese forces in the Pacific theater of war. We hope to accomplish the second goal before the end of May.

Godspeed.
~Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

I hope that this is how we are supposed to post in the beginning, though I can change it to how it is needed if not so. This looks like it will be at least an interesting experience, so here it goes.
Well, communications can go however you like. And, just a tip, when talking grand strategy, platoon isn't really a good idea. Just for your benefit, since a platoon is about 32 guys. I think you mean Army. Here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Hierarchy_of_modern_armies] is a list of military unit sizes. For most of your work, you would use between Army and Division, but in battle, you could use most other units practically.

Also, you reminded me, so thank you. The atomic bombs will be dropped as they were in real life: On August 6 and 9.

Anyway, in general, you can just use the posts normally, without using a spoiler box, but spoilers are good to specify who you are speaking to.
Thanks, and, if you notice, I used the wrong president. I'll stick to spoiler boxes for communication, though, and fix the mistake.
Oh, and in an attempt to be helpful, I think your plan is, and I might be wrong, because Icarion came up with this, to cut between the Prague and Berlin masses and strike at Berlin from the south, attacking the Soviet 8th Guards Army and 1st Guards Tank Army. I don't know, he is the mind behind that move.
 
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Dear President Roosevelt,
We appreciate the use of your ninth army, and we will be able to attack Berlin from the South on our own. We do request however, that you make at least a small portion of your air force available for our use. Our Luftwaffe is currently in the hands of Britian, so we have no air cover. We will be relying completly on our Flak 36's as our main AA gun. Any air support would be much appreciated. Also, have you considered my proposal on the pre-emptive air raid?
~Feildmarshall Erich von Manstein