Origin Cheapens IP With Deep-Cutting Sales

[bafrali]

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Maybe i am missig something. Can't i hate Capcom for their atrocious lies just because i am a megaman fan?

Thanks for opening old wounds BTW!!

 

[Aeonknight]

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Maybe i am missig something. Can't i hate Capcom for their atrocious lies just because i am a megaman fan and thanks for opening old wounds

So you hate capcom for what they did about legends 3, yet you insist of your own free will to be a walking billboard for one of their franchises? nice. That's pretty much akin to people raging at EA about anything/everything, but turning around and buying ME3. Your principles mean nothing when you're willing to make exceptions to them. But of course, that is our history as "gamers" now isn't it? We're a fickle bunch.

 

[bafrali]

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Umm Wow nobody had ever used my avatar against my argument before. That is a new low. So you are saying i am a part of the problem for using a tiny looking fan art of a franchise which hasn't been relevant for years because as my avatar.Wow you must be desperate.Anyway i am out. I don't want to deal with that mindset

 

[Aeonknight]

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Umm Wow nobody had ever used my avatar against my argument before. That is a new low. So you are saying i am a part of the problem for using a tiny looking fan art of a franchise which hasn't been relevant for years because as my avatar.Wow you must be desperate.Anyway i am out. I don't want to deal with that mindset

That smells like a cop out to me. Not so much fun when someone points out your own hypocrisy now isn't it? But I'm willing to let it go. And not dwell on it. And not bring it up at every possible occasion just because I can.

I do agree, there are far better things I could be doing by now. I've made my point, and I already know you and everyone else that will likely post in this thread don't care. But at least someone said something.

 

[dagens24]

Sounds like John Funk is QQing because EA said mean things about Valve. Comparing a 40% off sale to upwards of 90% off sale (Alpha Protocol for $2? Sure, why not.) as though they are comparable is wrong. I'm no EA supporter, I'd take Steam over Origin any day of the week, but John just comes off as butt hurt with this one.

 

[lapan]

That didn't take long. EA's PR departement at it's finest.

 

[Kaymish]

finally Origin sales must be doing poorly and that would not be surprising when i some of those games at retail for less than the origin sale price sorry EA gotta be able to beat brick and mortar stores before the sale can begin entice me

 

[KiKiweaky]

Clearly EA dont have a clue what they are talking about, I think somone would have to be out of their mind to pay 59.99 or whatever a games full price was when it came out.

For a game thats more than a year old thats complete crazy talk.

 

[Sunrider]

The sad part is that if they didn't go out of their way to condemn Steam-sales earlier, this would probably be welcomed with open arms.

and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 2142 can be had for $29.99 and $8.99 respectively (instead of $49.99 and $14.99).

I had to do a double-take there, considering I bought B:BC2 for less on Steam. Just checked the store page on Steam and yep: $19.99, not on sale. One reason why you always shop around.
Here's the webpage link: http://store.steampowered.com/app/24960/

Origin: cheapening their IP by still overpricing their IP, even by doing a sale.

Also this.

 

[MrGalactus]

Aww, c'mon guys, be fair. I adore Origin. It keeps all the "broad-appeal" gray sludge that is EA games from cluttering up my Steam browsing experience.

 

[samaugsch]

Uh. What? That... that makes no sense at all. Why does putting something on sale on occasion "cheapen" it? I mean, yes, it literally cheapens it in the sense that it is cheaper, but why would it metaphorically cheapen it? I mean, Valve puts the entire Half-Life series on sale on Steam for like twenty bucks every once in a while. (and regular price is still just $40!) Yet people still think it's a really good series.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting his use of the word "cheapen", but it seems to me that price has precious little to do with what people think of a game. If a brand-new AAA title came out for ten bucks, I might be a little surprised and maybe even concerned, but if it's a special sale, I wouldn't go "ugh, horrible game", I'd go "cool, is cheap this weekend! I'd better snap it up!"

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm really, really missing something here. Can somebody else explain this to me? Do you get what they're trying to say, because the only thing I can see is "we want more money and are trying to pretend we're good people for wanting all of your money."

I mean, sheesh. At least be honest about wanting all of our money...

EA came out and said they wouldn't have any of their games on steep discounts on Origin akin to Steam because such a large discount "cheapens" an IP, in that it's cheapens the customers perceived value/view of that product. They said that a 25%/33%/50% sale is fine but the typical Steam sale of 75% was too much, and basically they have done what they said they wouldn't.

Doesn't look like it. Which games exactly did they mark down by 75%?

 

[MonkeyPunch]

I don't care if they come out with a game that was photorealistic sensoround holodeck solid gold blowjob generator there is no game that is worth installing the crapulance that is Origin.

Erm... drop me a line if you do know where to get that game. Ahem, for research reasons.

 

[SomebodyNowhere]

That's nice that Origin is doing sales, but I think I'll just wait a couple weeks and see what Steam does for their summer sale.

 

[Fireprufe15]

I don't care if they come out with a game that was photorealistic sensoround holodeck solid gold blowjob generator there is no game that is worth installing the crapulance that is Origin.

I'm no fan of EA, but I was surprised to find that Origin wasn't half bad. The downloads are faster than Steam and they let you play games without forcing updates first, that's really helpful when someones cap is nearly used up. Now I won't ever buy games on it, but for retail games that require it's really not that bad.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Looks like EA just got caught Chasing Two Rabbits.

EA goes on record claiming that price cuts cheapens the long-term value of IP.
This is an appeal specifically to developers and other publishers to use Origin over Steam (newcomers and established businesses alike).

However, since EA is still in a tailspin, they have to do SOMETHING to drive sales, generate revenue to appease shareholders, and employ the most immediate solution: Price Cuts.

They are Chasing Supply to increase the value of their service by increasing their total offerings, and/or exclusivity of said offerings.
They are Chasing Demand to increase revenue in a time they desperately need it.

And now they're caught looking really stupid.

I wasn't kidding when I previously commented that EA's attitude is that of a company who acts like they already have a monopoly, indicating that they're either evil or stupid. At least we now know that they're just stupid.

 

[llamastorm.games]

Uh. What? That... that makes no sense at all. Why does putting something on sale on occasion "cheapen" it? I mean, yes, it literally cheapens it in the sense that it is cheaper, but why would it metaphorically cheapen it? I mean, Valve puts the entire Half-Life series on sale on Steam for like twenty bucks every once in a while. (and regular price is still just $40!) Yet people still think it's a really good series.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting his use of the word "cheapen", but it seems to me that price has precious little to do with what people think of a game. If a brand-new AAA title came out for ten bucks, I might be a little surprised and maybe even concerned, but if it's a special sale, I wouldn't go "ugh, horrible game", I'd go "cool, is cheap this weekend! I'd better snap it up!"

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm really, really missing something here. Can somebody else explain this to me? Do you get what they're trying to say, because the only thing I can see is "we want more money and are trying to pretend we're good people for wanting all of your money."

I mean, sheesh. At least be honest about wanting all of our money...

EA came out and said they wouldn't have any of their games on steep discounts on Origin akin to Steam because such a large discount "cheapens" an IP, in that it's cheapens the customers perceived value/view of that product. They said that a 25%/33%/50% sale is fine but the typical Steam sale of 75% was too much, and basically they have done what they said they wouldn't.

Doesn't look like it. Which games exactly did they mark down by 75%?

Our friends across the pond have an even better sale going on, with a whole mess of popular titles available for just £5 across the board. For the formerly £40 Dragon Age: Origins, that's an IP devaluation of 87.5%. Other titles, like Mirror's Edge, Batman: Arkham Asylum, and Darksiders aren't quite as devalued from their Origin prices - but let's not forget, said Origin prices are cheaper than their original launch prices.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Know what else devalues Intellectual Property?

Flooding the market with constant releases so that we lose the ability to discern between entries, and stop wanting to pay more and more for the same thing. There's a reason no one plays Rock Band anymore, EA.

That's a poor example, when you consider Rock Band hasn't been leeched as much as Guitar Hero was. Probably a good reason people don't play Rock Band is because it wasn't all that good to begin with.

Guitar Hero's flood pretty much killed that whole genre.

Fine by me, I never liked any of those music games. Push the button when it lights up on the screen RIVETING!!!! Seriously, why not just go learn to play an actual instrument?

 

[samaugsch]

Uh. What? That... that makes no sense at all. Why does putting something on sale on occasion "cheapen" it? I mean, yes, it literally cheapens it in the sense that it is cheaper, but why would it metaphorically cheapen it? I mean, Valve puts the entire Half-Life series on sale on Steam for like twenty bucks every once in a while. (and regular price is still just $40!) Yet people still think it's a really good series.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting his use of the word "cheapen", but it seems to me that price has precious little to do with what people think of a game. If a brand-new AAA title came out for ten bucks, I might be a little surprised and maybe even concerned, but if it's a special sale, I wouldn't go "ugh, horrible game", I'd go "cool, is cheap this weekend! I'd better snap it up!"

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm really, really missing something here. Can somebody else explain this to me? Do you get what they're trying to say, because the only thing I can see is "we want more money and are trying to pretend we're good people for wanting all of your money."

I mean, sheesh. At least be honest about wanting all of our money...

EA came out and said they wouldn't have any of their games on steep discounts on Origin akin to Steam because such a large discount "cheapens" an IP, in that it's cheapens the customers perceived value/view of that product. They said that a 25%/33%/50% sale is fine but the typical Steam sale of 75% was too much, and basically they have done what they said they wouldn't.

Doesn't look like it. Which games exactly did they mark down by 75%?

Our friends across the pond have an even better sale going on, with a whole mess of popular titles available for just £5 across the board. For the formerly £40 Dragon Age: Origins, that's an IP devaluation of 87.5%. Other titles, like Mirror's Edge, Batman: Arkham Asylum, and Darksiders aren't quite as devalued from their Origin prices - but let's not forget, said Origin prices are cheaper than their original launch prices.

Oh. You'd think that would've been mentioned in the article. :/

 

[llamastorm.games]

Uh. What? That... that makes no sense at all. Why does putting something on sale on occasion "cheapen" it? I mean, yes, it literally cheapens it in the sense that it is cheaper, but why would it metaphorically cheapen it? I mean, Valve puts the entire Half-Life series on sale on Steam for like twenty bucks every once in a while. (and regular price is still just $40!) Yet people still think it's a really good series.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting his use of the word "cheapen", but it seems to me that price has precious little to do with what people think of a game. If a brand-new AAA title came out for ten bucks, I might be a little surprised and maybe even concerned, but if it's a special sale, I wouldn't go "ugh, horrible game", I'd go "cool, is cheap this weekend! I'd better snap it up!"

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm really, really missing something here. Can somebody else explain this to me? Do you get what they're trying to say, because the only thing I can see is "we want more money and are trying to pretend we're good people for wanting all of your money."

I mean, sheesh. At least be honest about wanting all of our money...

EA came out and said they wouldn't have any of their games on steep discounts on Origin akin to Steam because such a large discount "cheapens" an IP, in that it's cheapens the customers perceived value/view of that product. They said that a 25%/33%/50% sale is fine but the typical Steam sale of 75% was too much, and basically they have done what they said they wouldn't.

Doesn't look like it. Which games exactly did they mark down by 75%?

Our friends across the pond have an even better sale going on, with a whole mess of popular titles available for just £5 across the board. For the formerly £40 Dragon Age: Origins, that's an IP devaluation of 87.5%. Other titles, like Mirror's Edge, Batman: Arkham Asylum, and Darksiders aren't quite as devalued from their Origin prices - but let's not forget, said Origin prices are cheaper than their original launch prices.

Oh. You'd think that would've been mentioned in the article. :/

It was
That paragraph was quoted from the article, you silly moo!

 

[samsonguy920]

and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 2142 can be had for $29.99 and $8.99 respectively (instead of $49.99 and $14.99).

I had to do a double-take there, considering I bought B:BC2 for less on Steam. Just checked the store page on Steam and yep: $19.99, not on sale. One reason why you always shop around.
Here's the webpage link: http://store.steampowered.com/app/24960/

Origin: cheapening their IP by still overpricing their IP, even by doing a sale.

Sorry, it should have been more clear in that paragraph that this is the special/deluxe editions of the games, not the basic versions. Updated for clarity.

Thanks for the update. Although, even for special/deluxe editions, $50 is way too much for a game as old as BF:BC2 is now. Have to wonder if EA is trying to convince people that Origin is the only digital place to find the game.