Yea, so all goverment restrictions are fine now, as i understand, cause "life's unfair"?
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No because that was the argument brought forth by Avenger. That not everybody "get's it" even if they try. In which the response is "Yes and?" Because of course not everyone succeeds, because equality of outcome is not a possible reality. Everybody can work for a dream, not everyone will attain that dream, but everyone can work for it.
Before you drag out the obvious. "Dream" is simply a metaphor, used in this case to be the example of self-sustainment (i.e. a job or career in which one can live steadily). People fail at this all the time and sometimes it isn't their fault, and sometimes it is. Sometimes you fall into drink, or substance abuse, shit happens. Sometimes people's inner demons get them to do horrible things to themselves or (god forbid) others.
But these examples are only proof of the rule I've been trying to demonstrate. Success has such a wide range of variances to everyone that it is hard to really come up with a general grasp on what can be considered successful. Which is why people generally point to the 1% and ignore everything else because it is almost universally accepted that being in the 1% is the definition of "success". But that is a very poor metric when you can cite countless examples of the 1% being incredible unhappy and sucidal.
The man makes the money, the money doesn't make the man.
No, we focus on the 1% because they're hoarding all the wealth, preventing it from circulating through the economy and creating an income gap that is bad not only for our economy, but also our democracy.
lol nope
Under neo-liberalism capitalism, money owns you.
And so they deserve abject poverty? I'm not getting why you continually bring up stuff like this when the people you are arguing with are saying things like "jobs should pay at least half of what the median income is, that's where livable starts"
Mate, we're talking about you whining that small businesses not surviving plague conditions means we should've had more people die from the plague to (futility) try and prop them up.
In the context of this conversation over the last several pages, I thought 'success' was being simply being paid an actual living wage for doing unpleasant jobs that are also deemed essential.
The communist is right.
Hoarding resources does nothing and money is only useful if it's circulating. Binding up huge amounts of resources gambling on stocks and speculation is bad
The American Enterprise Institute? You may as well have cited Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson.
Kid, you're just proving me right. You're a shitty capitalist.
What evidence do you have of that? Wearing masks works right? Distancing? All things that small businesses could have done, and stay open. But unless they were food, they weren't allowed to open at all. Three card shops and like a dozen businesses in my local mall are just gone period because of the shutdowns.
You eye roll at fucking everything. Forget it im done with you because you live in a fucking fantasy land.
Yes, that tends to happen during natural disasters. What is your point?
Right back atcha, kiddo.
It is, yet every time I pointed that out, people just kept harping on the 1%. So I used that as a comparison in that post. That's all.
So you agree, a living wage of approximately 50% of the median wage would be a good thing?
Well now that I recall, you insisted they don't actually deserve a living wage and should devote their every other waking moment to 'improving' themselves to get totally different employment and used the 1% as examples of people who had pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps.
And covid still spread at a reduced rate. "Works" and "perfect" aren't synonymous, just as "Not perfect" and "useless" aren't synonymous.
Sucks to suck. Both local game stores and the GameStop in my mall are doing just fine. Or at least in the GameStop's case, not doing any worse than before covid hit.
Sucks to be them. They should change the way they operate, and adapt to new situation. Look at Amazon, they're doing fine. It's all about learning how to hustle
Just because of the shutdowns? The decline of malls, the advent of online shopping, none of that had anything to do with it?
I mean, by your own logic, they couldn't hack it, so sucks to be them.
Do you know what a stock is? Stocks are a vehicle by which people exchange money they aren't using for partial ownership of a business that can use that money profitably. Stocks on an individual scale may be viewed as tied up resources, but macroeconomically they are the opposite. A billionaires wealth is tied up in stocks, but that's because the businesses those stocks are for are using the resources actively and generating wealth.
The reason the wealthy are so wealthy is because the resources they own are working, the money is circulating.
Lmao, owning stock is literally the opposite of circulating, and trading stock between third parties gives the business that issued the stock literally nothing. It's gambling, a shell game set up by capitalists who "earn" money by doing nothing of use. Hell, we're at the point where you can generate millions of dollars by being close to a server and running EFTs to shave off pennies of other people's transactions. Like Office Space, but somehow not a crime