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Looks like one more reason for me to not watch MLP, not to dump on those of you who do. Some of the fans are quite, shall we say, off-putting. I watch Adventure Time, though, because it's F^$@ing bonkers, and awesome.
I don't know how that guy wanted to sound, but he comes off as a grade A douche from what I'm reading. So what if they are only there to cosplay and socialize? Their reason for being at the convention is just as valid as anyone else's.
I can't decide if the fact I understand the reverse satire is good or bad, though mainly I'm just bitter about all of it because gender is still a big thing. That and I have to be reminded in my slipping faith in humanity every day.
i'm a brony and i do love MLP but not in the same sense that you seem to be implying...SpiderJerusalem said:
i know to difference between reality and fiction and don't aspire to date a fictional character. Sure there are those in the brony community that like sort of thing, but generalizing the whole fan base for what a small part of it does is pretty shallow-minded
Wow, brilliant work there Sherlock.Yal said:
Basically, the comic is making a point about male geeks who respond to females at Cons, particularly attractive ones that defy the usually "geek" stereotype, with unwarranted hostility.
The point they're making is this: How would you feel if you liked something stereotypically girly like My Little Pony and everyone harassed you or thought you were an attention whore because of it? That's how girls often feel when they show up at cons, despite being genuinely interested in nerdy stuff.
Yeah, the comic's drenched in sarcasm and satire, so it's a bit hard to understand.
At first, I thought the women in the comic were just a bunch of gay men (not that there's anything wrong with that). To the artist of this comic, I think you need to give them more defined curves or soemthing, because this is not the first time I've made that mistake.
Either way, I am now looking forward to the MLP episode on sexual harassment. Unless it happens to Fluttershy, in which case I will be permanently scarred.
Either way, I am now looking forward to the MLP episode on sexual harassment. Unless it happens to Fluttershy, in which case I will be permanently scarred.
Did anyone actually read the text underneath the comic? It pretty much spells the point out for you; that this shit happens all the time to women, where women geeks and gamers for some inexplicable reason have to 'prove themselves' that they're not just posers. It's bullshit, pathetic misogynist crap.
Also no Rarity?
Also no Rarity?
Well okay, so they do exist. I didn't have enough experience with cons myself to comment, I just felt that it sounded a little unbelievable to me. Apparently I was wrong, although I still kind of think a few bits of anecdotal evidence aren't proof of a widespread problem.ThriKreen said:
But still, I don't like the idea of acting like you have to create some kind of geek Inquisition to reject the eeevil wannabes. It's a public space (assuming they paid to get in or whatever else), and it's not as if they're drugging vulnerable nerds to be carried off for some kind of sick experiments. What precisely is the problem? That you feel these wannabes are so hypnotising that entire swathes of the nerd population will be swayed by their wiles? That they'll hurt your feelings by being rude about the things they're dressed up as?
I just don't think it's worth the trouble you'd create by treating every attractive woman at a convention with suspicion. And I especially don't think the guy who wrote the original post is the right guy to talk about it, since he seems to be an arrogant, judgemental prick. He can say he's not talking about 'proper' nerd girls until he's blue in the face, he still used the "out of 10" scale in the same article as saying that he's attracted to brains over looks. After implying that women are worth less if they're lower on the scale, too.
Yeah, problems like... Umm...SpiderJerusalem said:
Err...
...The number of sexual assaults being committed against fictional creatures? Seriously, what problems are we talking about here?
Yeah, it probably would've been better with something that isn't notable for it's surprisingly huge male fanbase, like Barbie or something. He was probably trying to make it more relatable and/or attract more hits by alluding to Bronyism.Scrumpmonkey said:This isn't helped by the fact that there is a majority male component to the 'Brony' community. There is also the fact that they are actively looking to welcome more female fans to make the community look a little more well adjusted and so don't function like a 'typical' convention crowd.Glass Joe the Champ said:Wow, brilliant work there Sherlock.Yal said:
Basically, the comic is making a point about male geeks who respond to females at Cons, particularly attractive ones that defy the usually "geek" stereotype, with unwarranted hostility.
The point they're making is this: How would you feel if you liked something stereotypically girly like My Little Pony and everyone harassed you or thought you were an attention whore because of it? That's how girls often feel when they show up at cons, despite being genuinely interested in nerdy stuff.
Yeah, the comic's drenched in sarcasm and satire, so it's a bit hard to understand.
I'm not saying the point isn't valid or even cleverly made but it would have worked better with a gaming convention setup rather than a pony one. It just seems a little... off in its current form.
There is also the fact that any male 'Brony' who was sexually 'harassed' by three women dressed as part of the mane six probably wouldn't mind. Like at all.
And I doubt you could ever really convince men that being sexually harassed by a woman is a very bad thing because our culture dictates that sex is something a woman generously gives and a man is happy to get, no matter the circumstances. That's an issue for another day. though.
My god. That comic actually reached critical mass levels of lampoon and sarcasm. I actually genuinely believed it had actually happened for a good few minutes there >< Tangently, should I feel ashamed for finding the cigar chomping one kind of cute?
On the actual topic at hand, having just read the article linked under the comic does raise some fair points, and the OP has missed that point. It's not about some elitist jerk juding you based on "geek cred" it's about /those/ sort of women that go to conventions, just so they can seek attention, because they imagine the stereotypical geek being there (which do exist), and feel empowered, because they KNOW that a lot of the men there will be infatuated with her being there. It's cruel and out of order as far as I'm concerned, you don't see me going to places where I envision underconfident, desperate women being just so I can feel superior.
Not only that, there is a large section of the article stating that calling women out to be judged on their geekiness in some asinine system is awful as well, so I'm not sure what the point is regarding the article.
Enlighten me anyone?
On the actual topic at hand, having just read the article linked under the comic does raise some fair points, and the OP has missed that point. It's not about some elitist jerk juding you based on "geek cred" it's about /those/ sort of women that go to conventions, just so they can seek attention, because they imagine the stereotypical geek being there (which do exist), and feel empowered, because they KNOW that a lot of the men there will be infatuated with her being there. It's cruel and out of order as far as I'm concerned, you don't see me going to places where I envision underconfident, desperate women being just so I can feel superior.
Not only that, there is a large section of the article stating that calling women out to be judged on their geekiness in some asinine system is awful as well, so I'm not sure what the point is regarding the article.
Enlighten me anyone?
I don't see that reason for going to be worth less than mine (basically socialize and nerdgasm over previews and such). Why is it worth less?elvor0 said: