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WIF PONIES EVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =^.^=trollpwner said:Surprise butt secks, you say?ZippyDSMlee said:
I get that and I remember that argument made about girls going to cons like this just to get attention // I'm just posting for the humor of itMetalMagpie said:
The comic does a decent job of shows us what goes on at these cons by reversing the rolls
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Really? How do you guys know the difference between a woman who is a fan and one that is not? Are there not women just open enough with their sexuality that they are comfortable dressing as the sexually charged women in games and comics that they love?
Are you guys going up and trying to talk to these women and they don't want to talk to you? Is that where you assume they are just posers, trying to grab your attention, and walking around like they are goddesses? Because they don't want to talk to you?
Right. That totally makes complete, utter sense. I can't help but feel like this is bordering on the whole concept that a woman deserves to be raped because of how she is dressed. The idea that a woman's body parts have that much control over a man, that it's unfair to the man for her to have those body parts.
Are you guys going up and trying to talk to these women and they don't want to talk to you? Is that where you assume they are just posers, trying to grab your attention, and walking around like they are goddesses? Because they don't want to talk to you?
Right. That totally makes complete, utter sense. I can't help but feel like this is bordering on the whole concept that a woman deserves to be raped because of how she is dressed. The idea that a woman's body parts have that much control over a man, that it's unfair to the man for her to have those body parts.
Every girl I know who is geeky has been accused of wanting attention, no matter what they were wearing at the time.Clearing the Eye said:
As I said before, people can say that it only applies to people who are looking for attention, but it doesn't. Lots of guys now just treat any girl with an interest in anything geeky as someone who is there for attention.
Jeans and a T-shirt is exactly what I was wearing the last time I got told I was there for attention.
The comic is about a specific article someone wrote, flaming a group of people wearing proactive outfits and behaving in an overt, "look at me" way. They commented that they don't like "booth babes" showing up to conventions to stand around and get ogled. They weren't talking about average people at all.Phasmal said:
The OP and their comic (like many here) missed the point and jumped right to assuming the article was referring to women, period. As such, I said it is dishonest to draw a comic with a very mundane man. For honesty, if the OP was genuinely trying to comment on the actual point of the article, the man would be wearing tight, revealing clothes and flexing. Their mistake or dishonesty has ended with many people here assuming the article was about women at conventions, period.
I know what the article is about, but you can't just say `We're talking about this group of people and it doesn't affect others` because it does.Clearing the Eye said:
There are way more women who go to cons because they have a real interest, but they all get tarred with the same brush.
Acceptance of women in geeky spaces is an issue and this kind of article only creates resentment by people who wrongly assume they can tell who is a `real geek` and who isn't.
If the general community didn't constantly stereotype me and others of my gender as only being there for attention, it wouldn't bother me. Because yes those people exist.
But really those people are doing less harm in my opinion than people going around and assuming that every female is there to get attention.
The point is, the OP was firing back at a specific article and they did so incorrectly.Phasmal said:
Yes, some people get accused of being out for attention when they clearly aren't. However, this article isn't about that and the comic shouldn't have referred to it. Make the argument, fine. Good. Awesome. Don't misrepresent a genuine article as misogynistic and sexist.
The OP did what many people do nowadays: see criticism of people that happen to be women, ignore all the context and jump to claim sexism.
You can enjoy harassment. You can enjoy pain. You can enjoy suffering, sadness, torture and humiliation. You're either painfully stubborn or spectacularly uninformed. Just because something causes discomfort, doesn't mean you can't want it. I happen to rather enjoy masochistic women (I'm bi, but masochistic men doesn't do much for me, oddly). The women I am sexually attracted or involved with want to be hurt to varying degrees and want to be made to suffer. Just because they enjoy it, doesn't mean it's any less unpleasant or painful--and that's the entire point, they want the bad things. Being cut, flogged or reduced to tears from pain doesn't mean it didn't suck. It just happened to suck in just the right way, lol.rhodo said:
Your refusal to accept or understand a mindset doesn't erase it. I won't go into detail (because who the fuck are you, lol) but I've enjoyed some terrible situations in the past, not the least of which included self-mutilation and intense pain.
Perhaps they saw the article the same way I did, something completely unhelpful and something that will just cause more people to perpetuate this dumb stereotype that gets aimed more at people who arent there for attention than who are.Clearing the Eye said:
Either way, I can see why you object to it, I don't particularly agree, but I'm big enough not to go `U R WRONG!`. Agree to disgaree and all that.
Now I think I'm gonna go make a cake.
How rude. Flaunting your baking skills up in my face like that. Down right cruel!Phasmal said:
*goes back to eating cereal, the only thing he can make* T^T
The really funny part is, depending on which con you go to, you may really run into this situation as a guy. (Pittsburgh Comicon a few years back, though for anime, not MLP)
Kyogissun said:
EDIT- Yeah... when i do get hit on. Its either guys, or underage girls
and/or their mothers (sometimes the cougars are worth it)
A good rule of thumb for men at cons: don't try to flirt with the cosplayers or booth babes unless they initiate the flirting. Otherwise all you are doing is pissing them off.
Bill Waterson didn't write that!uhohimdead said:
The comic [Critical Miss] was great. Sometimes I come into threads without reading any of the other posts and just drop my opinion. That would have been a mistake here, as not attending cons of any sort myself I naively imagined this scenario nearly plausible. Hey, maybe MLP programs women to act sexually aggressive, what do I know.
Anyway, great comic.
*vagina (no plural)rhodo said:
Okay, you're either hilariously ill-informed about your own body or you're a man--it's physically impossible to remove a woman's vagina. Why? Because the vagina is a cavity.
You've failed to understand a paraphilia you claim to enjoy, have misunderstood, mixed up and flat out gotten wrong key facts about the human body, continually refuse to accept perspectives that fall outside your own, limited views and even dared to say men cannot be raped or lose their virginity. It's almost impossible to argue with you.
If all you have to defend your position is "you're crazy," you've already lost.