Pachter: Publishers Jumping Ship Is Hurting the Wii

TsunamiWombat

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And Michael Pacther countinues to pull numbers and bullshit out of his ass. And people countinue to listen.

Because People are Dumb.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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I think Nintendo has noticed that they are out of good developers, so I think they are trying to put out as many of their IPs on the market to show that games on wii games will sell a LOT, forcing developers to at least port games to the wii.

The DS is simply on its last legs as a platform, of course the software will decline a bit, since gamers know that the 3DS is just a year away with a huge starting line-up.
 

Upbeat Zombie

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What!? I'm glad this analyst was able to figure this out, or else I would have had just no idea...
But seriously they just figured that out?
 

Rigs83

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I guess it's hard to make games that require movement in a nation of fat, depressed losers. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.131735-Science-Says-Gamers-are-Fat-Depressed-Losers#2920820]
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Phenakist said:
He makes a valid point, I only care about my Nintendo made games, I don't have any other games on the Wii aside from the Nintendo made games, (Metroid, Mario, Zelda etc.) so that's about 5 games, and frankly there isn't anything worthwhile buying for the Wii that Nintendo did'nt make themselves.
Poke around. You'll find Okami, Sin & Punishment 2, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, and a surprising number of titles. It just gets hidden in the mountains of shovelware.

In fact, I only own 2 Nintendo titles on my Wii. Metroid Prime Trilogy and...Twilight Princess.
Don't forget No More Heroes. But Logan pictured it for me, so it's redundant.
But other publishers may jump ship due to the fact, that, they can't all make casual games, and probably jump over to the 360.
 

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Tom Phoenix said:
PipBoy4000 said:
Right on. Everyone keeps telling them they need more hardcore games, but they keep refusing to listen. Nintendo is going down!
You haven't seen this year's Nintendo E3 press conference, have you?

Anyway, it is indeed interesting that such a backwards state of affairs exists. Having said that, with upcoming titles such as the GoldenEye remake, Donkey Kong Country Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn, this will return some public focus back to the Wii. With that, we could see more third-party developers decide to develop titles for the console.
You know journalists have been saying that at every Nintendo E3 press conference. "Smash Bros Brawl", "Super Mario Galaxy" will "return" public focus back to the Wii. Its been like that for 3 years and we still haven't seen anything done.

Generally speaking, I wouldn't say any of those titles would help the Wii's situation. Nintendo owners buy Nintendo games (and Nintendo games are generally superb quality). But trying to get Nintendo owners to buy 3rd party titles is the main focus.

People blame 3rd party for not making any high quality games. 3rd party developers blames a lack of audience for their poor sales. Then they move on to other consoles, because that is where most of their revenue is generated from.
 

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3rd party devs were always irrelevant to nintendo. Some generations it works out, some it doesn't. Nintendo produces hardware for their stable of games and if 3rd parties want to go along for the ride great, if not no skin off their butts.

With the exception of no more heroes and raving rabids I can't think of a really good 3rd party game for wii. Red Steel 2 is bordering on good but the mmo "kill 10 rats" quest style doesn't work in single player games and I with developers would stop using it.
 

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Essentially, what Pachter has said amounts to "There's less games for the Wii, so less games are being sold."

Brilliant deduction. Dumbass.

P.S. Thanks
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
there are also hardcore gamers who own them, and would welcome games from quarters other than Nintendo itself.
Maybe they should put their money where their mouth is and actually buy the hardcore games like Dead Space: Extraction and MadWorld instead of letting them fall by the wayside with piss poor sales. That's the reason hardcore game developers are ignoring the Wii, because there aren't enough sales to justify them supporting the platform.

As for Pachter, I wish I got paid to spout obvious statements on a regular basis.
 

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Bah who needs original third party titles when Nintendo is regurgitating properties over and over again. God knows we need a 1054th version of Mario Kart after all.

Maybe Nintendo should have focused on making an actual current/next gen console instead of adding a bad gimmick to the Gamecube.
 

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Half of my games (four) for the Wii are third party developed.
The fact that they weren't bought for me, but for my 9 year old brother may have something to do with that though.
Oh, and I have No More Heroes. He's not allowed to touch that one.
 

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monster hunter and the first no more heroes... I've bought a couple more that weren't as much fun... The main thing is that games have to be DESIGNED for the wii, not just ported from other systems to succeed, makes it a harder task
 

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I can see exactly where it's coming from. Whereas awesomeness like Little King's Story, Madworld and Okami is put aside for the likes of Fifa, Mini Carnival Games and Just Dance.

Of course I'd imagine that these games still would have bombed on the 360 and PS3 simply for being too different for the crowds there.
 

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I personally blame Nintendo's 3rd party policies for this, not just their Wii lineup.

They always were complete jackasses to third party developers, and this goes back to the Nintendo. And no, they have not gotten better at all.

I think alot of developers know this and don't want to be shoved around Nintendo's machine like they were nothing. Which is good. Let Nintendo handle first party titles anyway, it's what they're best at.
 

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I think the issue is more on the fact that they are trying to release games that are worse versions of games that are on other consoles. I bought muramasa and monster hunter as I can't find them on my x-box...but that was it...kinda depressing actually.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Timbydude said:
Logan Westbrook said:
In our view, this indicates that Nintendo's customers...need less software than the typical Sony or Microsoft customer."
It's pretty much completely this. Most Wii owners rarely feel the need to buy any more games after they already have "that tennis game".
Actually, many Wii owners don't need to buy games. Period.

I bet that a large number of them just play Wii Sports.

Not to mention those who got the Black Wii, which comes bundled with Wii Sports RESORT.

OT: I don't see what this has to do with the DS, though. The DS has a large number of good games, in fact, the library is beginning to rival the PS2 in terms of overall quality.
Problem with the DS is they come out to damn fast and you don't know if your library will be compatible with the next version.
 

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Now with that glowing ball thing from Sony and that camera from M$, there shold be motion controlled games to port for the Wii. Casual gamers but more so hardcorers will be happy.
And yes. I don't own a console.
 

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It's funny because they said "first-rate lineup of games" and the big thing people don't like about the Wii is the games. Ah well, keep dreaming Nintendo.