Pacific Rim Beaten by Adam Sandler at Box Office
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I had no problem with Pacific Rim getting beat by Despicable Me 2. The first was good and while I haven't seen the second one yet I can't say I was mad that it got a second movie. Heck I forgot Pacific Rim opened against that one as well. My biggest complaint is that to me Grown Ups 2 is a sequel that did not deserve to see the light of day. In two genres that don't really demand sequels all the time i. e. horror and comedy studios decide that it is a splendid idea to run them into the ground. For instance Hangover should've just been a comedy classic and stand alone movie. Not a deteriorating trilogy. Hopefully Pacific Rim picks up and makes the money it deserves because if that happens that live action Evangelion movie they've been trying to make for like the last 5 years or so will finally get green lit.
Pacific Rim loses to Despicable Me 2.
Okay, fine. That's kind of expected in hindsight.
Pacific Rim losing to Grown Ups 2.
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Personally, I think the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" joke is a bit overdone, but I legitimately do not want to live on a planet where Grown Ups 2 is doing better than Pacific Rim.
Okay, fine. That's kind of expected in hindsight.
Pacific Rim losing to Grown Ups 2.
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Personally, I think the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" joke is a bit overdone, but I legitimately do not want to live on a planet where Grown Ups 2 is doing better than Pacific Rim.
GU2 just sells on celebrity names. So I'm not surprised.
Pacific Rim sells on its plot and Guillermo del Toro's directing it. For it to make 3rd place, I'm happy enough.
Pacific Rim sells on its plot and Guillermo del Toro's directing it. For it to make 3rd place, I'm happy enough.
Okay, this shouldn't be a 'geek only thing'. The average human should have a greater desire to see giant robots fighting giant monsters than seeing Adam Sandler doing the same thing he has done in every other film he has ever been in.
With the hype that Pacific rim has got, if I see it, I expect it to be no worse than Gladiator, The Dark Knight and Fight Club combined.
...Pacific Rim had comedy? I'm not trolling you here, I just genuinely don't remember any.OlasDAlmighty said:
Pacific Rim sells on the fact it has big robots and monsters. Turns out that isn't as big a draw as we all thought. As far as plot goes, all the bits which weren't robots punching monsters (and as the film wore on, even some of the bits that were about giant battles) were really dull and cheesier than an unwashed penis. I say this as someone who saw it the day after release and really wanted to love it, but the movie was pretty bad outside of the (admittedly epic) fight scenes.Lovely Mixture said:
3rd place is pretty good for a movie wwhose only selling point is impressive spectacle.
Well yeah, that is its plot. We seem to be on the same page.SonicWaffle said:
It's what Guillermo does best, love or hate the man. His spectacles are nice to look at.SonicWaffle said:
I'd call that a concept rather than a plot. If the entire plot were just "robots and monsters fighting" nothing would ever be explained, it'd just be a constant fight scene. The plot itself, near as I can recall, was about emotionally damaged people overcoming their problems to kick some ass, and I just didn't connect with it. It felt very much like what it was; an excuse for the fight scenes. I don't have a problem with that per se, but when the excuse plot takes up way more time than the reason I came to see the movie, I find myself getting pretty darn bored.Lovely Mixture said:
Certainly, I'm not disagreeing there. As I said, though, it's the balance issue. Spectacle was the selling point, and as such it should have been the driving force, not an occasional aside so the movie could focus more on the comparatively weak human drama element.Lovely Mixture said:
True, you could argue that. I mean, the concept has been used so much that it's hard to call it a standard plot instead of a gimmick.SonicWaffle said:
Obviously the film is using that as it's selling point and using additional factors to try and make it more entertaining.
That can be a problem. I haven't seen the film yet, but this gives me a good idea about what to be cautious for.SonicWaffle said:
My bad, I didn't mean to sound argumentative when I said that.SonicWaffle said:
Your lens of the film seems accurate, because what you're saying reflects my biggest issue with Guillermo. He has trouble balancing the entertainment factors of his movies.
Pacific Rim is just a stupid and retarded as Grown Ups 2.
Hell, Pacific Rim has all the complexity and intrigue as a fucking Michael Bay film.
Hell, Pacific Rim has all the complexity and intrigue as a fucking Michael Bay film.
Barely. The part where the scientists awkwardly try to shake hands made me chuckle a little bit, as did several scenes with Ron Pearlman which I don't want to spoil. I don't think I laughed once during Grownups, though I did dose off for about 15 minutes, so maybe that 15 minutes was where all the comedy was.SonicWaffle said:
Who are these idiots who go to Adam Sandler movies (now that we have confirmed that he hasn't made one that was above "entertaining" since Happy Gilmore)? Because we need to remove them from the gene pool ASAP.
I wouldn't necessarily call it "comedy" but there was some humor in the movie, namely in the interactions between the "mad scientist" characters of Charlie Day and Burn Gorman. Also some bits with Ron Perlman that I won't spoil either.SonicWaffle said:
Ok people. calm the hell down please. First, let me start off with I absolutely loved it. I am right there with Moviebob and the other gushers. I have already seen it twice. might see it a third, fourth or even fifth, and I WOULD REGRET NOTHING!
That said, THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT MOVIE SOME PEOPLE SAW! While I found the farnsworth "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" bit funny, people are going apeshit over nothing!
I actually enjoyed Adam Sandler in Hotel Transylvania quite thoroughly.
People have different tastes. As for those who didn't like it, you know what? to each their own. Not going to affect my enjoyment of it one bit.
As for those talking of creating/unleashing Kaiju, let me build my mech first!
It's shit like this that drives me away from cinema.
I try not to be a snob, and I strain to not look down on people who like Adam Sandler's films (well his recent films)...but holy shit does that man make it hard to remain impartial.
I try not to be a snob, and I strain to not look down on people who like Adam Sandler's films (well his recent films)...but holy shit does that man make it hard to remain impartial.
I am not mainstream America.
Sometimes, I'm very, very glad of this.
It's hard to resist the urge to rage. It's so tempting to scream at the 33% of high school graduates who never read another book after graduation and the 43% of college graduates who do the same. The people who make "Honey Boo Boo" and "Jersey Shore" into major success stories.
To snarl the ever-popular, "This is why we can't have nice things!!"
But what will change from my snarling and sneering? I mean, if giant robots fighting sea monsters is just a little too high-brow fer yeh, how am I ever going to change your mind by moving my face-parts? (And I'm perfectly aware that posting this on The Escapist is largely preaching to the choir.)
*sigh*
Sometimes, I'm very, very glad of this.
It's hard to resist the urge to rage. It's so tempting to scream at the 33% of high school graduates who never read another book after graduation and the 43% of college graduates who do the same. The people who make "Honey Boo Boo" and "Jersey Shore" into major success stories.
To snarl the ever-popular, "This is why we can't have nice things!!"
But what will change from my snarling and sneering? I mean, if giant robots fighting sea monsters is just a little too high-brow fer yeh, how am I ever going to change your mind by moving my face-parts? (And I'm perfectly aware that posting this on The Escapist is largely preaching to the choir.)
*sigh*
Why would you read a book? We have the internet, we have video games, we have movies, we have much much more effective ways of conveying an idea and emotion. The smugness and sense of superiority over 'the mainstream' is palpable.Callate said:
Maybe people went to see that shit movie without knowing it would be shit. And then no one gave them the money back. They should have listened to the warnings though. Oh well....maybe when Sandler gets back on screen some day no one will fall into the trap...
I mean promote Pacific Rim.
Seriously? the Shit movie out makes the most original and creative idea movies had in a decade?
When the last time we had a good movie that was not a remake, based off a book, TV Show, Comic book or what have you or a sequel?
Pacific Rim isn't based on an existing IP, and it isn't a Remake. Yeah you can make comparisons to other Kaiju/Giant Robot IPs you see similarities.
Versus a freaking sequel to a Adam Sandler Movie? And a bad one on top of that.