Parents Group Denounces Supreme Court Decision
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Listen, everybody who ever said "Video games cause violence, and theft, and organized crime, and refusal to eat vegetables, etc." Do you remember when people blamed television, or rap, or oddly shaped rocks for all of the things that the youth was doing? If so, you probably remember thinking that everyone who said "Oddly shaped rocks cause violence and they made my kid stop believing in Zoopfeez, the almighty sky god." were crazy and/or uninformed. And if you agreed with the adults about those things, please trust that everyone who got oddly shaped rocks had parents who knew that their kids could handle it. If you can't keep your child from getting violent games, you obviously don't know what you are doing.
tl;dr: Supervise your kids, and realize that video games are no worse than tv.
tl;dr: Supervise your kids, and realize that video games are no worse than tv.
I'm usually the first to defend parents in situations where nearly everyone else on this site says, "Blame the parents".
But come on...
But come on...
This perfectly sums up what I wanted to say.Charli said:
Really? I don't think so without their parents' help in some way, at least not where I've lived. Kids don't typically have $60+ or credit cards (of their own) lying around mainly because they can't get jobs yet. But let's say they have some saved up from their birthday or whatever; now they actually need to find a way to the retailer, and not all that many are going to be in reasonable walking distances, let alone a lot of people may call to attention why a kid so young is out on his/her own for the trip. Now if they do somehow make it to the retailer on their own, it's not going to be very likely that the cashier is going to let them buy the M-rated game they want due to company policy. If the kid managed to pull all of this off without his/her parents getting involved, let alone hearing any wind of this, he/she is one incredibly lucky s.o.b.666Chaos said:
Parents should start taking more responsibility for raising their children. Video games are marked with ratings and if you flip them over, they give you a quick breakdown of why the game have the ratings that they do. Besides that, they also have an age on the ratings too (17+, etc.).
And as I've said before, most outlets will not sell, say, an M rated game to an eight-year-old or something unless they were accompanied by an adult or it was an adult buying them for them. But then again, I've found that parents are not particularly informed about this. I met one woman who didn't think that games needed to be rated because, and I quote, "they're just toys for kids." Needless to say, she was shocked when I pointed out that the game she was buying for her very young son was rated M for blood/violence and swearing.
If you're worried about what your kids are playing or watching, then do your job as a parent and set up rules for that; refuse to buy your kid Modern Warfare, restrict TV time. Most TVs these days come with a parental lock, you can block out content of a certain rating if you really want to and it's not that hard to do. It just takes a little time and effort and a little research to find out.
Seriously, parents should do more research instead of blaming everyone and everything but themselves when their children turn out less than perfect. I'm getting tired of hearing about how 'games promote violence' from a bunch of idiots who have absolutely no idea of what they're talking about and love to quote studies that really don't exist.
This is really annoying and I'm getting sick of hearing it and explaining to parents that, no, that is not appropriate for a young child. They get pissed at me when I try to be nice and help them out, but if I don't they get pissed at someone else instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. Why are they not surprised that their children turn out the same way?
And as I've said before, most outlets will not sell, say, an M rated game to an eight-year-old or something unless they were accompanied by an adult or it was an adult buying them for them. But then again, I've found that parents are not particularly informed about this. I met one woman who didn't think that games needed to be rated because, and I quote, "they're just toys for kids." Needless to say, she was shocked when I pointed out that the game she was buying for her very young son was rated M for blood/violence and swearing.
If you're worried about what your kids are playing or watching, then do your job as a parent and set up rules for that; refuse to buy your kid Modern Warfare, restrict TV time. Most TVs these days come with a parental lock, you can block out content of a certain rating if you really want to and it's not that hard to do. It just takes a little time and effort and a little research to find out.
Seriously, parents should do more research instead of blaming everyone and everything but themselves when their children turn out less than perfect. I'm getting tired of hearing about how 'games promote violence' from a bunch of idiots who have absolutely no idea of what they're talking about and love to quote studies that really don't exist.
This is really annoying and I'm getting sick of hearing it and explaining to parents that, no, that is not appropriate for a young child. They get pissed at me when I try to be nice and help them out, but if I don't they get pissed at someone else instead of taking responsibility for their own actions. Why are they not surprised that their children turn out the same way?
So wait a minute. Giving parents the explicit right to make the choice of whether or not to buy their children M (or AO) rated video games instead of not being able to at all...is replacing parental control?
...It's official. There's another segment of the population to be shipped off to Madagascar.
...It's official. There's another segment of the population to be shipped off to Madagascar.
Is it just me, or do the people of the PTC seem to either not have children, or are too busy to actually spend time with them? That's usually how it works I think, they don't watch their own children, but the moment someone steps in 'their territory' they get all indignate about it.... Anyways! Videogaming still won, and the best they can do is make sure their kids don't buy videogames they deem inapropriate.
"Countless independent studies confirm what most parents instinctively know to be true: Repeated exposure to violent videogames has a harmful and long-term effect on children. Despite these troubling findings, videogame manufacturers have fought tooth and nail for the 'right' to line their pockets at the expense of America's children. Today, the Supreme Court sided with them and against parents."
BULL-FUCKING-SHIT! Name one fucking study that has fully valid scientific data that directly points out videogames as the direct cause of increased aggression in a child and in return, I will show you A FUCKING MERMAID! These people are lazy and ignorant and shouldn't even be parents as a result. Thank you!
BULL-FUCKING-SHIT! Name one fucking study that has fully valid scientific data that directly points out videogames as the direct cause of increased aggression in a child and in return, I will show you A FUCKING MERMAID! These people are lazy and ignorant and shouldn't even be parents as a result. Thank you!
yeah, i never understood why these people need things to be put into law. Well, then again, probably for the same reason they don't wants gays getting married, they are afraid that if it isn't law that they will just forget everything.Drummie666 said:
Either way, i think it is important to remember that if it had been our side that had lost, we would be saying pretty much the same thing about the other side.
If ever I met someone like this, I'd put the question to them: "Explain me."
I've played Doom, Blood, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake and Mortal Kombat 2 in the mid 90s when I was 11 and oddly enough, I've not gone on a rampage or harmed anyone for that matter. Can't explain that, can he?
I've played Doom, Blood, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake and Mortal Kombat 2 in the mid 90s when I was 11 and oddly enough, I've not gone on a rampage or harmed anyone for that matter. Can't explain that, can he?
Well maybe if you stopped giving your kids $60 for lunch money or maybe ask them what they're going to do with the cash you gave them, then maybe it wouldn't be a problem so much no would it?
From the ruling: "Moreover, as a means of assisting parents the Act is greatly overinclusive, since not all of the children who are prohibited from purchasing violent video games have parents who disapprove of their doing so."
Enough said. It's the parents' call. Good to see the SC has expressed a reasonable opinion on this matter.
Enough said. It's the parents' call. Good to see the SC has expressed a reasonable opinion on this matter.