Parents Group Denounces Supreme Court Decision
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How did the law change anything in the first place. If someone wants the M game they can just get someone over the age of 17 or 18 to buy it for them, like most kids do anyway.
GATHER THY SWORDS AND ARMOR
THY BEST STEED AND SQUIRE
PREPARE MY FOLLOWERS FOR WE MUST CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES!
Also
Countless independent studies = People we paid
THY BEST STEED AND SQUIRE
PREPARE MY FOLLOWERS FOR WE MUST CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES!
Also
Countless independent studies = People we paid
Here's an idea PTC, why don't you stop wasting time and money on stuff like this and actually raise your child. There are like a million ways to do that easily even with the supreme courts ruling and even then any moron can understand why you can get away with murder in games but not in real life.
Pretty much this ^^, and the sentiment repeated by many in this thread of be a more bloody responsible parent and actually give a shit or two about what media your kids consume.CD-R said:
Although I think this video says more than I ever could on the topic:
I've already voiced my opinion on the news feed via Facebook.
I'll say it again though; Parents need to take responsibility and do their job. Watch what their kids are playing and understand that they're going to get into M rated video games if they want to. Kids always find a ways to do stuff they aren't suppose to.
I'll say it again though; Parents need to take responsibility and do their job. Watch what their kids are playing and understand that they're going to get into M rated video games if they want to. Kids always find a ways to do stuff they aren't suppose to.
According to their logic at least 4.7 million people should have shot up their schools (based on MW2 alone) ...at least once. What's next? The injuries in sports games are too "realistic"?!
I was IDed both times last month for buying M rated games. Be...um...I don't know, parents?
I was IDed both times last month for buying M rated games. Be...um...I don't know, parents?
And just as many studies, if not more, have proven that exposure to violent media has absolutely no long term detrimental effects. It just depends who's nudging the research.Greg Tito said:
Seriously, parents, police your own kids. Don't start trying to white-out parts of the Constitution because you're too lazy to watch your kids. Why are unattended children going to video game stores anyway? Bad parents are bad.
It's illegal here too. But some parents here are just lazy and don't want to do any actual parenting.samonix said:
I've got a great way for the PTC to protect their children from sex and violence on TV. This little thing called the V-chip you can even lock out unrated shows on the off chance they contain some objectionable material.
Now that their kids are protected to their standards they can get out of everyone else's buisness.
Problem solved. Next problem please.
Now that their kids are protected to their standards they can get out of everyone else's buisness.
Problem solved. Next problem please.
you don't like the first amendment's freedom of speech? then you don't like america! go parent your children somewhere more suitable for your communist parenting tactics, like north korea, or china! yeah, go to china!!!Greg Tito said:Parents Group Denounces Supreme Court Decision
The Parents Television Council said that the Supreme Court succumbed to economic pressures from the videogame industry.
Not everyone in America is happy with the Supreme Court's decision to strike down California's proposed law as violating the First Amendment to the Constitution. The Parents Television Council, or PTC, has been protecting children from "sex, violence and profanity on television and in other media" since 1995 and President Tim Winter is outraged that the Supreme Court circumvented its efforts.
"This ruling replaces the authority of parents with the economic interests of the videogame industry. With no fear of any consequence for violating the videogame industry's own age restriction guidelines, retailers can now openly, brazenly sell games with unspeakable violence and adult content even to the youngest of children," Winter said.
PTC claims that the law put forth by Rep. Leland Yee was flawless in its execution, despite even the dissenters in the Supreme Court calling out its vagueness as a problem. "The carefully-worded California statute would not have interfered in any way with the rights of the creators of adult games or the adults who wish to buy them; and in fact, it would not interfere with parents who wanted to purchase such a game for their children. Rather, the measure only would have prevented an unaccompanied minor child from buying or renting the product."
Winter seemed to ignore any of the arguments put forth by both the game industry's lawyers and the Justices, using language that seems to demonize game publishers as corrupters of our youth. "Countless independent studies confirm what most parents instinctively know to be true: Repeated exposure to violent videogames has a harmful and long-term effect on children. Despite these troubling findings, videogame manufacturers have fought tooth and nail for the 'right' to line their pockets at the expense of America's children. Today, the Supreme Court sided with them and against parents."
The facts cited by Winter appear to be at odds with reality by stating that the ESRB is not enforced by retailers, saying, "We call on the Entertainment Merchants Association to redouble its efforts for increased enforcement of the industry's age-based vending restrictions. The Federal Trade Commission and the PTC's own 'Secret Shopper' campaigns have routinely demonstrated an abysmal failure rate for videogame retailers to uphold the industry's own age-based restrictions."
In fact, the FTC found that the ESRB system is one of the most successful ratings systems, compared to other major media. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103555-Retailers-Turn-Away-80-of-Kids-Trying-to-Buy-M-Rated-Games]
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but seriously, if you wouldn't let your kid watch an R rated movie, then don't let them play an M+17 game, or read an adult romance novel, or watch porn, but they still do it anyway don't they?
It's not illegal, and nobody (even the supreme court) does not object to it being illegal in and of it's self. The problem is the way the law (and several others) was worded violated the constitution.samonix said:
This isn't the first time an industry has self regulated in the US to prevent legislation. Movies, comics, and music all self regulate as well. Game publishers, and stores all find it in their best interest to not sale mature games to minors.
Unspeakable violence you say? You must be referring to Kratos. ^_^
Now,
If parents are that scared, why don't they actually research their child's gaming interests and do the parenting themselves? Or did I just say something taboo?
Now,
If parents are that scared, why don't they actually research their child's gaming interests and do the parenting themselves? Or did I just say something taboo?
Little do they realise, the retailers in the US self-regulate to avoid the wrath of these nut jobs.
Sooo they are the organisation trying to keep sex out of television eh? Why i feel like they've failed miserably at that... In some ways i even think they could only have worsened it by makeing the studios hide the profanity through clever choice of words and jokes in shows. (i'm very bad at explaining what i mean, my vocabulary doesn't strech that far...)Greg Tito said: