Patriotism
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How do you work that one out, in England we have some of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the world. My whole generation seems to have an aversion to Condoms and as such we are awash in Chavs who are breeding like rabbits, hell we could do with some population reduction, we are only a small island we should not have 6million+ people.thiosk said:
But for the topic at hand I am proud to be English/Irish because we have always produced the finest poets, writers and soldiers, managed to take over almost a quarter of the world and invented the police, all this from a tiny island. Though we did give the world Big brother and Katie Price which is not something to admire.
Being proud of your country for it's citizens achievements is like claiming your soccer team's match as personal victory. I like Canada because of the freedom it provides me, the somewhat subsidized post-secondary education, and free health care. Downside is, it's fucking cold half the year.
Do I think Canada's the best country in the world and we have a mandate by god to rule over other nations? No. Am I proud to be Canadian? I don't see how it's a matter of pride. I was born here. Should I be proud of my country if I were born anywhere else? Canada's a fine country, and I think I'll stay here for a while - but I don't think it or its people are inherently better than the world outside its borders.
Do I think Canada's the best country in the world and we have a mandate by god to rule over other nations? No. Am I proud to be Canadian? I don't see how it's a matter of pride. I was born here. Should I be proud of my country if I were born anywhere else? Canada's a fine country, and I think I'll stay here for a while - but I don't think it or its people are inherently better than the world outside its borders.
Am i proud to be Welsh?
Wrth gwrs fy mod i!*
But British?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poe__y4OaQs&feature=PlayList&p=96E4055C74F96D5F&index=0
*of course I am!
Wrth gwrs fy mod i!*
But British?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poe__y4OaQs&feature=PlayList&p=96E4055C74F96D5F&index=0
*of course I am!
Patriotism is a flawed idea no matter how you slice it. Why should anyone be proud of the landmass on which they were born? You don't have any control over something like that.
It's a round world last time I checked and our problems are going to continue on for a long time unless we stop thinking in maps.
It's a round world last time I checked and our problems are going to continue on for a long time unless we stop thinking in maps.
In my opinion patriotism is just a glorified term for nationalism. There are some aspects of The Netherlands I like (like the wealth, liberalism or social system) but also plenty I absolutely am not proud of (basically its whole imperialist past).
I really hate it when people see their country, philosofy or culture as superior to everything else and people calling themselves 'patriots' usually do that.
I really hate it when people see their country, philosofy or culture as superior to everything else and people calling themselves 'patriots' usually do that.
That's not even an opinion to me, it's the truth and I completely agree. There is no reason to be proud of a flag or proud of history that you were not present for, or proud "to be" from the country you are from.Aardvark Soup said:
I'm not proud to be an American at all. The rest of the world is swirling in a mix of horror, disgust and rage at the thought of our country and I honestly can't blame them.
Im proud of being English/Irish, but i am not proud of what Britian has turned into, a mix of chavs, football holigans and drunks...oh joy, what a fun country.
I see. Well you where still under us from 1262 to 1918.pffh said:The people coming from Norway were Chiefs that were leaving Norway because of the king (can't remember his name) that was uniting Norway. The chiefs that left Norway never acknowledged him as their king so when in the new country they were independent from him ergo not part of Norway.Sindre1 said:pffh said:We were never a part of Norway we were two nations under one king. Besides long before that happened we had discovered America and also we had a habit of killing your royalties.Sindre1 said:Iceland was once part of Norway.pffh said:Ahem... actually it was us Icelanders that were the first Europeans to reach America.Sindre1 said:I am proud to be Norwegian becose.....we kick ass?
I honestly dont know....But I AM proud!
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Oh, just remembered. We where first to reach the north-pole AND the south-pole. And apperantly America too. Vikings and shit.
Oh, and Edvard Munch and Edvard Grieg and Funcom
And all our traditions. Will not mention all of them.
And the nature, and our flag, and our natonal anthems
And 17. of may!!! ^^
You are our children. We love you <3
*Facepalm* Yes you where. Before becoming an independent country.
The first people to travel to Iceland where vikings from Norway.
Then after a while some of them decided to stay, and Iceland was born!
Well, apperantly some Irish monks came first, but they left again.
Dont know about that killing royalties thing. Or why you brought it up.
Also the killing part: Patriotism.
Patriotism is about loving your own country, not hating (or killing members of) another one.
Agreed, we could give alot more. So could alot of contries. Someone has to start I guess.Datsle said:In % of what?Sindre1 said:
What we earn, what we have?
Does'nt change the fact that we could give much more. But yarrr' im glad you'r on my side atleast
But my point is that there is no reason to be more emberased by Norway then by any other rich countries.
I guess you give Norway critic becose you live here, and its an easier place to start.
Lets make a Norway thread, so we dont piss off people.
We went under danish rule at the same time you did (don't really remember which year exactly ) and we didn't kill you out of patriotism I mentioned the killing out of patriotism.Sindre1 said:I see. Well you where still under us from 1262 to 1918.pffh said:The people coming from Norway were Chiefs that were leaving Norway because of the king (can't remember his name) that was uniting Norway. The chiefs that left Norway never acknowledged him as their king so when in the new country they were independent from him ergo not part of Norway.Sindre1 said:pffh said:We were never a part of Norway we were two nations under one king. Besides long before that happened we had discovered America and also we had a habit of killing your royalties.Sindre1 said:Iceland was once part of Norway.pffh said:Ahem... actually it was us Icelanders that were the first Europeans to reach America.Sindre1 said:I am proud to be Norwegian becose.....we kick ass?
I honestly dont know....But I AM proud!
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Oh, just remembered. We where first to reach the north-pole AND the south-pole. And apperantly America too. Vikings and shit.
Oh, and Edvard Munch and Edvard Grieg and Funcom
And all our traditions. Will not mention all of them.
And the nature, and our flag, and our natonal anthems
And 17. of may!!! ^^
You are our children. We love you <3
*Facepalm* Yes you where. Before becoming an independent country.
The first people to travel to Iceland where vikings from Norway.
Then after a while some of them decided to stay, and Iceland was born!
Well, apperantly some Irish monks came first, but they left again.
Dont know about that killing royalties thing. Or why you brought it up.
Also the killing part: Patriotism.
Patriotism is about loving your own country, not hating (or killing members of) another one.
