PAX East 2010: PC Gaming Is In Partially Vegetative State

[Delusibeta]

Spoiler: Previously...

You see, DRM is only bad if its implemented wrong. Games that restrict you from installing on as many PC's as you wish, CD-Keys, that's all fine. Maintaining a CONSTANT internet connection is fucking retarded. Its meant to stop piracy, something that is MUCH harder to do on a console. I think I speak for the common working man when I say I earn my money and happily buy my multimedia products with the satisfaction they'll actually WORK when I install them on my computer.

Have to heavily disagree there, limited installs is by far one of the worst possible DRM methods (if not the worst IMHO) certainly equal to required internet connections at least.

The amount of installs it gives you only dictates how long it'll take you to screw you over.
For instance my spore disc was essentially bricked by limited installs the second day i had it. whilst the 15 instals bioshock2 has for instance would take longer to impact, it doesn't stop it happening.

DRM does far more to promote piracy than it does prevent it, most gamers agree [http://kotaku.com/5500495/kotaku-census-2010-the-results-in-full]:

Thank you very much for that Kotaku visitors census link, especially telling is Part 3 - The Personal Computer. Steam / Valve and Indy Developers must be laughing at the fools in this panel all the way to the bank.

Also interesting was the piracy figures. About 75% of respondants had pirated a PC game... and about a half had pirated a console game.

Confirmation that "there is no piracy on consoles" is BS, then.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Confirmation that "there is no piracy on consoles" is BS, then.

Hell, you could've gone to a public torrent tracker and look around if you wanted confirmation of that.

 

[Atmos Duality]

The PC is like the Wii: you can't just slap a game through the Port-o-matic and expect it to sell well (Call of Duty games excluded). You need to give it some TLC, and to give a damn about the format.

However, unlike the Wii, you're more likely to get rewarded for going the extra mile. (Again, Call of Duty excluded)

As ever, saying "PC gaming is dead!" reveals your ignorance of the indie scene.

As someone who actively searches for PC games (non-ports of console games) I actually find it difficult to locate games that interest me; at least PC games made after 2005. Too many titles revolve around mimicking MMORPGs, and those that aren't MMOGs still revolve around multiplayer, which in itself is a variable I could do without (I don't have time to deal with griefers anymore).

The indie scene isn't as awesome as I wish it were, and I am willing to put up with a tremendous amount of nonsense if it means that the game will be awesome or immersive. Hell, if I am willing to put up with Dwarf Fortress...

 

[Shjade]

I'm jonesin' for my Thief. ;.;

You can play it, go to the ttlg forums, they have this patch called DDfix, that solves all your problems, i play on my core duo laptop.

...my love for you at this moment: I cannot words it into make.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

In some ways I'm surprised the entire panel didn't just blame piracy and knock off early for lunch.

 

[Ionic_photard11]

I would have to agree pc gaming is in a paritally vegetative state. There aren't that many games released on PC anymore. In my opinion its about quality not quantity. I would rather see 2 good pc titles released than 30 crappy titles released. But I have been pretty satisfied with the number of games that have been released for pc in the past 2 years. Call of Duty series, BC2, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2; the list goes on. As long as developers support the platform there will always be a community for it and vice versa. Pirating will always be an issue on any platform ( i remember in the old ps1 and ps2 days of chip modding ). But the price of PC games are usually about $10 cheaper than console. I purchase most of my games via Steam and there are some really good deals on there (GTA4 $10)!

 

[Daedalus_UK]

you know this is true and it shall stand

Aren't the 360 and ps3 speech bubbles switched?

Anyhow what is there to even discuss here. Some people are butthurt and seem to think all the people on another platform are out to get them and well.... thats it. No particular platform whatsoever (well except for in this thread).

PC gaming is only expensive when you don't know what to look for or where to buy your parts from. I must admit I rarely upgrade but thats because I started with a dual core and then only recently switched to a quad core. Even at a measly 2.3 GHZ its running new games like a trooper, even with my old 9600GT. It was exactly the same when I bought my PS3, I looked for the best deal.

It's all a lot of bullshit, were all gamers why do we all feel the need to argue over such useless shit, console gamers get some superior games such as Uncharted 2 and PC gamers get superior versions of Valve games, and thats fine by me. Would we even have anything to talk about if there was just one platform.