Most likely not. I'm sure someone has covered it earlier in this thread (honestly I didn't read most of it... just replied to the initial question), but EA and Valve had something of a tiff, and EA pulled a couple of their big titles off of Steam and no longer releases new titles on the platform. Some of their old stuff is still available (I assume contractually), but the odds of ME3 being on Steam are pretty negligible at this point.
You can always pray for a Christmas miracle, though. Probably won't hurt.
The difference with origin is permanent game bans and spyware.
I do hate it how retail DOW2 always requires Steam (and games for windows live both), but that's just 1 shared point against Steam.
Final consideration here is that EA have the most terrible track record of any publisher (DRM, take overs and bans all considered), while Valve are relatively clean. It wouldn't surprise me if EA would still make due on that EULA clause to remove every purchased game after 2 years.
Which Valve may do as well with Steam. Welcome to the world of licenses.
C. NO GUARANTEES.
VALVE DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTINUOUS, ERROR-FREE, VIRUS-FREE OR SECURE OPERATION AND ACCESS TO STEAM, THE SOFTWARE, YOUR ACCOUNT AND/OR YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS(S).
13. TERM AND TERMINATION
Either you or Valve has the right to terminate or cancel your Account or a particular Subscription at any time. You understand and agree that the cancellation of your Account or a particular Subscription is your sole right and remedy with respect to any dispute with Valve.
C. Termination by Valve.
2. In the case of a one-time purchase of a product license (e.g., purchase of a single game) from Valve, Valve may choose to terminate or cancel your Subscription in its entirety or may terminate or cancel only a portion of the Subscription (e.g., access to the software via Steam) and Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide access (for a limited period of time) to the download of a stand-alone version of the software and content associated with such one-time purchase.
Origin at least promises 2 years. Steam can do it at any point in time.
It's also much easier to be clean when You are single developer/publisher studio and put out 1 game every hundred years, while EA has multiple studios below them and puts out several games a year. Easy to not be guilty if You don't do anything
I'm not. I had a short experience with it with Battlefield 3 and it turned into an absolute nightmare that I chronicled in another thread. Long story short, I uninstalled everything and have no intention of using Origin or any Origin exclusive game. This makes me sad because I want to play Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 3 when it comes along.
Sadly, unless EA works out their issues with Steam, or makes their games not require Origin. I am going to have to say no.
I don't own any consoles as I have not been a console gamer since the PS2 era. There aren't enough console exclusives to warrant the purchase for me either.
I haven't used it and hopefully will never have to, even though Battlefield 3 looks like a lot of fun. Honestly, it isn't the greatest thing that Valve has a monopoly at the moment, but if competition means having to manage 8 different passwords and run 8 different programs just to be able to access all your games, then screw competition.
I doubt there's really any other way to compete. A lot of people already have several games on one service, and the only way to get them to use another is by having exclusive games. Since every service will have games we can't get anywhere else, every publisher will eventually have their own crappy program eating our CPU.
Honestly had no problems with it whatsoever with BF3, and will be pre-ordering ME3 eventually. I really dont see what people have against it other than the (now changed) agreement you have to sign which is now practically identical to Steam's.
LOL I am totally with you with that one.
I have taken up the exact same position because I was so butthurt at Dragon Age 2's quality.
For me it was the biggest travesty I had to ever experienced in gaming and I preordered that shit.
Haha I know how you feel. It was the first (and last) game I ever pre-ordered. I mean it wasn't that bad, I was just bothered by lack of story and constant recycling. Bioware did a good job with creating a "unique" setting and world in the first game, but did little to expand on it, or existing characters in expansion and sequel.
OT: I totally forgot about Steam. I know it's not perfect, but I think it's miles ahead of Origin in way they treat their customers, not to mention sales and larger selection. I don't hold that against Origin since it's a relatively new service, but I despise their business practice and their unbridled ban-hammer. I'll agree that competition is good (and necessary) but if we let them get away with locking us out of our games for arbitrary bullshit reason we're heading into a shit-storm, since a lot more publishers will follow their lead.
The difference with origin is permanent game bans and spyware.
I do hate it how retail DOW2 always requires Steam (and games for windows live both), but that's just 1 shared point against Steam.
Final consideration here is that EA have the most terrible track record of any publisher (DRM, take overs and bans all considered), while Valve are relatively clean. It wouldn't surprise me if EA would still make due on that EULA clause to remove every purchased game after 2 years.
Which Valve may do as well with Steam. Welcome to the world of licenses.
C. NO GUARANTEES.
VALVE DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTINUOUS, ERROR-FREE, VIRUS-FREE OR SECURE OPERATION AND ACCESS TO STEAM, THE SOFTWARE, YOUR ACCOUNT AND/OR YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS(S).
13. TERM AND TERMINATION
Either you or Valve has the right to terminate or cancel your Account or a particular Subscription at any time. You understand and agree that the cancellation of your Account or a particular Subscription is your sole right and remedy with respect to any dispute with Valve.
C. Termination by Valve.
2. In the case of a one-time purchase of a product license (e.g., purchase of a single game) from Valve, Valve may choose to terminate or cancel your Subscription in its entirety or may terminate or cancel only a portion of the Subscription (e.g., access to the software via Steam) and Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide access (for a limited period of time) to the download of a stand-alone version of the software and content associated with such one-time purchase.
Origin at least promises 2 years. Steam can do it at any point in time.
It's also much easier to be clean when You are single developer/publisher studio and put out 1 game every hundred years, while EA has multiple studios below them and puts out several games a year. Easy to not be guilty if You don't do anything
So valve may legally do it, but haven't, while EA have been locking customers out of the games they bought, since the beginning of origin already.
Don't blame me for having less trust in EA than in Valve.
I guess I have an account, but not using it. Since I had an EA account, they forced it on me. If I'm required to use it for Bulletstorm or Dragon Age, I will mail EA and request my money back for those games. Their practices (Crysis 2) are my reason for refusing to use it. Would be a good way to get rid of that trash that is Dragon Age.
It's fine. EA isn't going to have any chance of beating Steam with it if they don't start selling other people's games on it too though.
What I'm more irritated by is Battlelog for Battlefield 3. It's stupid and bad and wrong. I have to actually go into a game, pause it, and go through to the options menu to change any game settings. To change to a different server, I have to close the game and let it reopen (unreliably) on its own.
Heard the rumours about it being nothing but spyware and all the unfair bans and I have decided whatever game that comes out that uses Origin I will not purchase.
Again. Can say the same about Steam. You can't play Valve game without Steam because they all use Steamworks. You can't play several of other games without Steam either (DoW2, Civ 5, Rage, Skyrim to name a few). How is it really all that different?
What do you expect?it uses steam,then it requires steam,can't be any simpler. Also for Game like Dow2,Rage,and those who require steam, blame the developers or the publishers for making the game steam-exlusive.
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The difference with origin is permanent game bans and spyware.
I do hate it how retail DOW2 always requires Steam (and games for windows live both), but that's just 1 shared point against Steam.
Final consideration here is that EA have the most terrible track record of any publisher (DRM, take overs and bans all considered), while Valve are relatively clean. It wouldn't surprise me if EA would still make due on that EULA clause to remove every purchased game after 2 years.
Which Valve may do as well with Steam. Welcome to the world of licenses.
C. NO GUARANTEES.
VALVE DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTINUOUS, ERROR-FREE, VIRUS-FREE OR SECURE OPERATION AND ACCESS TO STEAM, THE SOFTWARE, YOUR ACCOUNT AND/OR YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS(S).
13. TERM AND TERMINATION
Either you or Valve has the right to terminate or cancel your Account or a particular Subscription at any time. You understand and agree that the cancellation of your Account or a particular Subscription is your sole right and remedy with respect to any dispute with Valve.
C. Termination by Valve.
2. In the case of a one-time purchase of a product license (e.g., purchase of a single game) from Valve, Valve may choose to terminate or cancel your Subscription in its entirety or may terminate or cancel only a portion of the Subscription (e.g., access to the software via Steam) and Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide access (for a limited period of time) to the download of a stand-alone version of the software and content associated with such one-time purchase.
Origin at least promises 2 years. Steam can do it at any point in time.
It's also much easier to be clean when You are single developer/publisher studio and put out 1 game every hundred years, while EA has multiple studios below them and puts out several games a year. Easy to not be guilty if You don't do anything
There is a diffrence,valve could ban me,but i trust them not to(unless i do something that terrible),and unlike EA with it's great banning system,even if you do something wrong on the forums they'll ban you,for all of your origin games(all your money spended gone to waste), and steam has different accounts for the forums and the program itself(if forums are hacked then it won't effect my steam account).Also when "banned" by valve you just can't play on VAC-servers, or suspended.
And also for section C,they're just covering they're asses incase something happens.
Now hater,stop hating.
OT:not untill they'll stop scanning my PC for stuff.
I'm not. Basic functionality was shit when I used it for the BF3 beta - took multiple attempts on both sides, and somewhere between 12-24 hours, to add a single friend. Links in the store didn't work either, and it was obnoxiously slow at several points in only 2 days.
I havnt had the pleasure of using EA's "wonderful" new service, so Im curious to know how you guys are finding it? is it as bad as i seems? is it "ok"?
It's okay. I have little intention of using it to buy anything, but it works well enough, far better than Steam did at launch. The interface is clean and simple; the downloading is as fast as anything else. It's certainly nothing special, but I don't see why people are avoiding it like the plague.
Because it's not their "beloved" Steam. People really need to realize we need much more competition on digital distribution market if we ever want to have base game price to go down. Currently the only 2 that people speak of are Steam and Origin, but there is GameStop's Impulse, Desura (indie games), GamersGate (mainly for UK people), D2D and GoG (classics and soon indie games). That's not really all that much compared to all the retail chains world wide that sell games.
Monopoly = Bad. Variation = Good.
The idea is to buy the game where You get the best offer. That way You give other services a sign that They could improve.
I've loved it! My only problem with it is that it doesn't have as many deals as Steam - though that may change after they get more third party games. On the other hand, some of the deals they've had (like Dragon Age 2 for $8) have been INCREDIBLE.
As for all the privacy shit people whine about, I don't mind it. Why don't I mind it? Because Origin is a relatively minor invasion of privacy compared to Facebook, Safari web browser, Google Chrome, the google search bar, your cell phone (and almost all the apps on it), etc.
I'm actually thinking about typing a very long thread about the hypocrisy of people and their stance against Origin when so many other services (including steam) have similar if not far, FAR worse privacy violations that they willingly accept.
As for facebook's privacy violations, this is a known and you could simply not use it and block it for good measure. Zuckerbereg has been open about totally not caring about the privacy of facebook users.
I haven't really used it. It's required for The Sims 3 but I have hard copies I would NEVER download anything off an EA made download manager they are notoriously dodgy and they won't give you your money back if it goes wrong. (I know this from reading The Sims 3 and EADM technical problem forums)
If I have to play an origin game (Probably going to be Mass Effect 3) I'm getting a hard copy and switching origin off as soon as I finish playing.
I'm getting tired of games companies labelling PC gamers as pirates I have never pirated a game in my life.
I consider all companies to pulling dick moves all the time. That's why I do not care about which is "better", only which gives me better offer and support, and so far Origin, GoG and Desura really offer me acceptable deals.
I also get my kicks of every hardcore Steam-fan that is blind to all Steam shortcomings and issues, ready to defend Their precious Valve with last bit of dignity.
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