my XBOX 360: $250 has never died or had any issues and the only money I've spent on it besides games has been for stuff I just wanted not neededAdam Jensen said:Until the next generation of consoles arrives at least. Unfortunately. How long until people realize that consoles are actually more expensive than PC's. They die more often. And once they die you have to buy a complete console. Games are more expensive, on Xbox you have to pay to play online and you have a limited controller option. You can play PC games with a wireless controller and you can connect your PC to a large TV. PC does EVERYTHING.
I was with you up until that last line. While developers have gotten increasingly better at squeezing every last drop of performance out of the antiquated hardware in each console (which is why Uncharted 2 looks so gobsmackingly beautiful), there's no getting past the restrictions of the hardware itself.questionnairebot said:They want to feel better then others. It's like when the PC Elitists tell others that their comp can run a game on higher Graphics and better everything then your console. They just want to feel better.
I wonder if they factored in new console releases which increase the capabilities of consoles above high end computers. 2014 is awhile away.
questionnairebot said:They want to feel better then others. It's like when the PC Elitists tell others that their comp can run a game on higher Graphics and better everything then your console. They just want to feel better.Woodsey said:Is there any particular reason two platforms are always pitted against one?
Because when its estimated that the majority of sales on the PC are now through digital downloads, which aren't specifically tracked, and you then pit two platforms against another solely on retail sales, its all a bit... retarded.
I wonder if they factored in new console releases which increase the capabilities of consoles above high end computers. 2014 is awhile away.
Well that was........ Uncalled for.TEMHOTA said:Oops, wrong can't expect a console gamer to know much about technology though so it's ok:MrDeckard said:Oh really?
A company that exclusively makes stuff for computers thinks computers are going to dominate everything. What a shock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSX_%27Reality_Synthesizer%27
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10198809-64.html
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/playstation-three2.htm
The point still stands that every nextgen console in existence is running either straight PC hardware or modified PC hardware.MrDeckard said:Well that was........ Uncalled for.TEMHOTA said:Oops, wrong can't expect a console gamer to know much about technology though so it's ok:MrDeckard said:Oh really?
A company that exclusively makes stuff for computers thinks computers are going to dominate everything. What a shock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSX_%27Reality_Synthesizer%27
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10198809-64.html
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/playstation-three2.htm
Alright, I was wrong to say "Exclusively", but computers are still their primary focus.
EDIT: *looks at your profile*
Oh I get it now. Nevermind. Forget I said anything. PC gaming is God. Halo is the Devil. etc.
Except this is not true. By todays standard a laptop from 2007 matches a xbox360 (theres slightly more power in the ps3). I have one sitting right here, a core2duo 2gb ram and a nvidia gt8600, runs MassEffect2, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Darksiders or even Witcher like a charm on high settings (Witcher 2 on low, which is 360 graphics).ecoho said:PC games will not outsell consoles but they may mach them in the end the only reason i say PC games wont outsell consoles is there are simply more consoles in house then game ready PCs.
Greg Tito said:PC Games Will Outsell Consoles by 2014
With a clear horse in the race, nVidia think current trends will place PC games software sales atop consoles.
In my heart, I am a PC gamer. My hands and arse are much more comfortable sitting in an office chair and tickling a mouse and keyboard versus a sweaty game controller. Watching the decline of the PC as the chief gaming platform among the young has been disappointing. Recent analysis of sales data by PC graphics processor manufacturer nVidia, however, seems to point to a heartening trend. If current growth continues, PC games are set to outsell their console brethren by fiscal year 2014 and nVidia cites ever-expanding GPU capability and the further growth of downloadable markets like Steam, Impulse and GOG.
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In 2008, despite huge hits like WoW dominating the PC market, the picture was quite bleak. Console games earned nearly 50 percent more revenue than PC game titles did and PC software sales only made a modest climb in 2009. In 2010 though, PC games sales skyrocketed by almost $4 billion and independent research group DFC Intelligence predicts that growth will continue.
nVidia think that its GPUs are big reason why PCs are the platform of choice for so many of us. Granted, I like the idea of beefing up my system incrementally instead of waiting for the next console cycle, but I don't think that's the major strength that's driving growth.
Freedom is what PC gamers love. On your PC, you can purchase a game from anywhere you like, whether from a downloadable source or from the brick-and-mortar store. You are also free to communicate however you like with your gaming partners, whether by running Skype or Ventrilo in the background or using your chosen peripheral. On the console, you have to use their system and pay a premium price for their proprietary stuff.
But the real freedom comes from the open platform of the PC, allowing the customer to freely mod and adapt software or hardware to their liking. That kind of freedom drives innovation - how many times have you heard a game designer say that they learned their craft from modding? When you try to mod your console though, you end up getting sued [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108693-UPDATE-PS3-Hacker-GeoHot-Claims-Hes-on-Vacation].
I don't necessarily believe that the growth of PC game sales will continue rising quite so high, but I welcome the emergence of the so-called middle class of PC game publishers out there. Publishers like Paradox who know how to leverage the benefits of the platform into making games that utilize it best will hopefully drive the industry into a new Golden Age of PC Gaming.
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Good that you know that now, the whole "Because I can use a controller" argument with console games always bewilders me since I can adapt literally any controller for use on my computer. Even games that don't directly support a controller, of which there is few, there's usually software that will allow you to do it anyway.Caramel Frappe said:.. No way. Is that.. real? Well now I know what I am putting on my Christmas List. *checks it onto there.*
Also, thank you for providing all that information. I've learned a lot just by reading the charts. Thus, am surprised all those consoles combined did not match the rating of PC sells. Mm, I am indeed impressed. Also I am literally surprised as well that website games are the highest, but then again Facebook games count and I know a whole load of people are obsessed with those Farmvill or Zombie Lane games.
Who do you think makes the GPUs of consoles? What do you think powers the ps3?MrDeckard said:Oh really?
A company that exclusively makes stuff for computers thinks computers are going to dominate everything. What a shock.
Because both are rivaling for same costumer?Woodsey said:Is there any particular reason two platforms are always pitted against one?
Of course no. If we grow complacent and allow the consoles to thrive, those of us who love our PC games more will pay the price. Developers go where they money is, and if they money in the field that you love is in a decline, so will be the products available to you.RatRace123 said:Can't we all just get along and accept our mutual love of games no matter what platform they're on?
No, shame.
where did you get that 7% figure from?Souplex said:So somehow in three years they'll rise from 7%-ish of the market to 51+% of the market?
In other news: Typewriters will outsell laptop computers by 2015.
Michael Pachter. The big cheese of video game financial analysis.veloper said:where did you get that 7% figure from?Souplex said:So somehow in three years they'll rise from 7%-ish of the market to 51+% of the market?
In other news: Typewriters will outsell laptop computers by 2015.