I think the age of buying a machine you just play games on will come to an end. People like the idea of playing a game on whatever is at hand, be it a phone, tablet, laptop or desktop. I bet soon everything will be done on your phone, and you dock the thing into a keyboard and large display to do work on, then take it with you when you're done.
PC Games Will Outsell Consoles by 2014
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I can't see that happening despit the unparalleled power and glory of PC gaming. The majority of the people I know who play games wouldn't really call themselves gamers (They play CoD and fifa i'll let you work ou the rest) wouldn't even think about pc gaming. I can't see such a dramatic shift in.... thingys (I know theres a word for that) in only three or four years. ( I am probably going to seem like such a moron in three years)
my XBOX 360: $250 has never died or had any issues and the only money I've spent on it besides games has been for stuff I just wanted not neededAdam Jensen said:
my PC: $750 right off the bat plus $300 of upgrades to keep the performance from dipping into the -30FPS range, I've also had several RAM chips and an HDD fail on me that then need replacing, plus if I want good performance on the late 2011 early 2012 crop of games I'm probably going to need another $200 graphics card upgrade, and it should also be noted that all upgrades and repairs on PC take much more effort than replacing a console, and to top it off despite multiple attempts several different TVs and much research nothing I do can get my PC to work (well) with a TV leaving me stuck playing on a tiny monitor (which was still far from cheap)
don't get me wrong, I don't hate pc gaming if I did I wouldn't spend so much money on it
but PCs cheaper than consoles? ya no
I was with you up until that last line. While developers have gotten increasingly better at squeezing every last drop of performance out of the antiquated hardware in each console (which is why Uncharted 2 looks so gobsmackingly beautiful), there's no getting past the restrictions of the hardware itself.questionnairebot said:
A new console release will not increase the capability of a console at all. It may, however, be better at utilizing what already exists.
questionnairebot said:
There is currently no console in development which is more powerful than my gaming rig. Just fyi, and all. by 2014, Soon to be released chips like Intel's Ivy bridge will have been superceded. Consoles are like mammoths. Slow moving, unable to adapt to demand. The incredibly quick development time of PC internals however, allows the PC industry to adapt far faster and to innovate more than your precious consoles.
Oh and just so we're clear about this, jumping up and down in your living room waving your arms isn't gaming, it's grounds for being put into a lunatic asylum.
Well that was........ Uncalled for.TEMHOTA said:
Alright, I was wrong to say "Exclusively", but computers are still their primary focus.
EDIT: *looks at your profile*
Oh I get it now. Nevermind. Forget I said anything. PC gaming is God. Halo is the Devil. etc.
PC gaming has always been where the most innovation has been shown if only because of the ease of access that people, players and developers alike, have with it. The downside to PC gaming is that the platform is not consistent between users and so there is a great deal of hassle when making polished final products for it. That said, internet related gaming is on the rise and the controlled environment of consoles are being severely tested against that.
The point still stands that every nextgen console in existence is running either straight PC hardware or modified PC hardware.MrDeckard said:
The 360 runs IBM 3 core powerpc processors and a ATI graphics card, so does the Wii.
The PS3 has a proprietary Sony/IBM 6 core powerpc processor and a nvidia card.
The WiiU features another undisclosed powerpc processor and a -retail- AMD card based on 2 year old generation R700 chipset (from 2008) running DX10.
The original Xbox ran a Pentium 3 733mhz and an early modified nvidia GeForce.
Long gone are the times of proprietary console tech like in the PS2 or Gamecube.
All "PC companies" are interested in console tech as well as PC tech, because BOTH ARE THE SAME.
There are no companies that are "primarily focused" on consoles, there aren't even companies "primarily focused" on cellphones anymore.
Nvidia provides graphics systems for cellphones, and Intel the processors. iPhones and iPads run Intel graphics, Macs run intel processors and nvidia cards.
Nvidia is no more a "PC company" than Sony is a "console company".
People need to realize that consoles, cellphones and PCs are essentially the same hardware-wise, except one system is optimized for specific functions like gaming or whatever and the other is -not-
Of course Nvidia thinks that "computers are going to dominate everything", THEY ALREADY DO.
Except this is not true. By todays standard a laptop from 2007 matches a xbox360 (theres slightly more power in the ps3). I have one sitting right here, a core2duo 2gb ram and a nvidia gt8600, runs MassEffect2, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Darksiders or even Witcher like a charm on high settings (Witcher 2 on low, which is 360 graphics).ecoho said:
You can now get one new for around 200$.
Point is everyone has a PC, if its bought this year, its going to run all console-ports smooth like a river. If its bought in 2014, the onboard graphics on the mainboard/CPU are going to be able to handle the graphics.
Core Ivybridge onboard GPU already handles DX11 natively, theres nothing more to add.
At some point if there is no new console generation, the PC is going to become so powerful that your Tablet will run Crisis 2 with not so much as a hickup.
I've never bee a big fan of PC gaming. Moving my character around is easier for me if I use the analog stick and point in the direction my character wants me to rather than using keys and then accidentally pressing Insert or 0 while trying to run away from someone.
Also, I would require a decent computer for PC gaming. Which I don't have. And I won't get.
I'm not hating on PC gaming; I think gamers are gamers whether they play on the PC or the Wii or whatever. But it is my belief PC gaming is still popular mostly because of those monster MMOs that only specific people can join, people with A) A credit card, B) Plenty of time to spare and C) A well paying job? On the other hand, gaming consoles are available for anyone, they have a wider and perhaps more appealing line of games regardless of who you are, and they're more user friendly: Pop the disk in, park your ass on the couch, play.
Yes, there's plenty of good PC exclusives: WoW, KOTOR, Rift, Diablo, etc. But you gotta admit consoles are pretty much rulers of gaming (?). I'm not taking into consideration graphics or plot or whatever; that's irrelevant, truly (If you're of those people who buy a game merely based on its graphics, then to each its own, I guess). I'm just saying this: When a parent is looking for a console for his kid, he's definitely gonna choose a Wii over a PC, even if he loves PC gaming. It doesn't matter if he has 20 computers at home capable of doing this: The kid needs something simple. The kid WANTS something simple. Simple as that.
Sorry, but I think PC games won't outsell console games. it's not a bad thing, though. :/
Also, I would require a decent computer for PC gaming. Which I don't have. And I won't get.
I'm not hating on PC gaming; I think gamers are gamers whether they play on the PC or the Wii or whatever. But it is my belief PC gaming is still popular mostly because of those monster MMOs that only specific people can join, people with A) A credit card, B) Plenty of time to spare and C) A well paying job? On the other hand, gaming consoles are available for anyone, they have a wider and perhaps more appealing line of games regardless of who you are, and they're more user friendly: Pop the disk in, park your ass on the couch, play.
Yes, there's plenty of good PC exclusives: WoW, KOTOR, Rift, Diablo, etc. But you gotta admit consoles are pretty much rulers of gaming (?). I'm not taking into consideration graphics or plot or whatever; that's irrelevant, truly (If you're of those people who buy a game merely based on its graphics, then to each its own, I guess). I'm just saying this: When a parent is looking for a console for his kid, he's definitely gonna choose a Wii over a PC, even if he loves PC gaming. It doesn't matter if he has 20 computers at home capable of doing this: The kid needs something simple. The kid WANTS something simple. Simple as that.
Sorry, but I think PC games won't outsell console games. it's not a bad thing, though. :/
Good that you know that now, the whole "Because I can use a controller" argument with console games always bewilders me since I can adapt literally any controller for use on my computer. Even games that don't directly support a controller, of which there is few, there's usually software that will allow you to do it anyway.Caramel Frappe said:
Because both are rivaling for same costumer?Woodsey said:
On topic: i think nvidia is right, on miltiple levels. PC games are beating consoles, as graphics are now much more higher for pc games than consoles. Pc has overcome consoles, like it always does. Sure new consoles will be released, but so will new computers. Atm PC is in the lead. You just cant beat the modability of PC either.
Also, i noticed there were talks about "diableis better with controller". what crack were you smoking?
Of course no. If we grow complacent and allow the consoles to thrive, those of us who love our PC games more will pay the price. Developers go where they money is, and if they money in the field that you love is in a decline, so will be the products available to you.RatRace123 said:
Nothing saying you can't love games regardless of platform, but you should absolutely fight for the dominance of the one you love most.