PC gaming is dead to me now.

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JoesshittyOs

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Hammeroj said:
JoesshittyOs said:
Well... yeah.

I've taken a step by step tutorial to try and install the program that let's you download mods and get them to work. I don't know what it is, but I am legitimately hopeless when it comes to computer technology. I can sit down all day if I have to, but I'll never figure it out. I have a few games on my lab top that I downloaded from steam, and CoD 4 required Punkbuster to work (my Labtop couldn't handle it in the first place). I literally had no idea where to start when it popped up. Looked up tutorials, got confused within the first ten seconds. Missed steps, didn't understand what the person meant as his folder looked different than mine.

I really do envy PC gaming and people who are generally good with code and tech savvy stuff. But I am very much not ready for it. Words like video cards and drivers fly over my head, and I'm too much of a lazy person to really take the time and research it.
I'm genuinely curious as to where your attempts to mod Minecraft go wrong. How about you PM me and later today I'll help you out with it?
Oh, why thank you. It's 6 o'clock in the morning where I am at and I haven't gone to bed yet, so it might come at a weird time but I might just take you up on that offer.
 

LiquidSolstice

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Hammeroj said:
[Mods are far on my list of "Why PC gaming is great", but even if it wasn't, I don't understand your point. That's exactly what I'm asking the guy. Why did he say getting a game to work is hard work after talking about not getting a mod to work?
Erm, I don't care where mods lie on your list of "Why PC gaming is great", it obviously is on most PC gamers' lists, so what was the point of the PC game if a heavily endorsed feature didn't work? The idea behind mods is to make the game play differently because you were bored or unsatisfied with the original content. He couldn't get what he wanted.

Considering Minecraft was the guy's example, there's basically nothing there to go wrong except fucking up somewhere along the steps. Minecraft is not a complicated game. If you follow the rules, it will work 99.999% of the time. I haven't modded any other game, personally, so I'll refrain from commenting on anything else specifically. I think it's fair to assume, though, that problems with mods (that aren't half-done) generally don't arise. I've certainly never heard of them.
So after admitting that Minecraft is the only game you've ever modded, you think it's acceptable to say that "problems with mods generally don't arise"? Erm, do you read your own posts? And then right after you think that because 'you've never heard of them' That it's "fair to assume"?

Man, no offense, that's all kinds of out-there.
 

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People who say these things have a tendency to show up with old-ass computers or ones they bought form Dell. Of course your Core2duo 1.8 ghz CPU + Geforce 8600 card can't handle this shit, anymore.

Anyway, I don't blame you, but my PC still works just fine 90% of the time, and I'm more then willing to jump a few hurdles for the gaming experiences I get out of it.
 

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Nomanslander said:
Like I said, you guys can call me a PC half wit if you want. Tar and feather me, drag me to center of town square and have little children and e-trolls throw peanuts and rocks at me for their amusement. I don't care.

Fuck PC gaming, I quit. Oh and I mean my Realtek driver for Bioshock, just isn't....you know, I'm not even going to go there..lol
You're making a much bigger deal out of this than what it actually is, you're acting like you've killed a child.
 

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For me the good things about PC gaming outweights the negative things, so I won't quit PC gaming any time soon. Also, I hear many people complain about many different problems on the PC but I rarely have had problems. Sure it can happen sometimes but with the horror stories other people tell, I wonder whether I'm just really lucky.
Compared to how often my friend's Xbox360 and PS3 have just stopped working and they had to buy new ones, it seems like I have no real problems at all.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Bye then.

If you want to swap complexity for homogenized comfort, we won't stop you. Say goodbye to mods, Free DLC, Indie games and backwards compatability though.
Except that consoles get free DLC (Space Marine is a prime example of their free 'Exterminatus' DLC), indie games on XBLA and backwards compatibility too...

And for both consoles and PCs, backwards compatibility is limited. Ever tried to play a windows 95 game on a Windows 7 system without having to trail through FAQs, downloads and files to make it work? Go try playing Hogs Of War on a brand new computer without having to do any of that! It's not possible.
 

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Andy of Comix Inc said:
Nomanslander said:
Like I said, you guys can call me a PC half wit if you want. Tar and feather me, drag me to center of town square and have little children and e-trolls throw peanuts and rocks at me for their amusement. I don't care.

Fuck PC gaming, I quit. Oh and I mean my Realtek driver for Bioshock, just isn't....you know, I'm not even going to go there..lol
Dude. Sometimes people just want to plug in a machine to a screen, put in a game and have it... work. Whether you believe it for not, PC gamers aren't those people.

I stand adamantly by that PC gaming is a hobby that should - and often does - encompass all aspects of PC technology. A PC gamer should know the ins and outs of their machines, they should relish upgrading and building computers, they should be as good with the electronics as they are with the final output.

A lot of PC gamers aren't, and they're "PC gamers" because they want shinier games at higher resolutions with the comfort of mouse and keyboard control. And that's fine. But at the end of a day, a PC gamer really should love more than that. It should be a time-consuming, difficult hobby. There's a reason console gaming still exists despite PCs being built that are better than consoles on the market, and it's this very reason - PC gaming is hard. And giving up is no more a sign of defeat than it is just an indication that PC gaming isn't for you.

No reason to declare the whole hobby is dead, no reason to feel like you're being judged for it. You "quit" for an affable reason - it was hard. This does not make you stupid, and it doesn't make people who continue to stick with it morons. You just wanted to enjoy your leisure time and have it not be a chore. This is normal. This is why console games exist; they're easy, they're cheaper, and that's not a bad thing. Do whatever it takes to get the most out of the time you have reserved for entertainment, and fuck everyone who says otherwise.

LiquidSolstice said:
Just a heads up to all the dipshits who are saying "enjoy your red rings" and all that, the newer 360s don't red-ring anymore (at least not in the same volume). Hell, before the newer Slim models came out, they stopped red-ringing (I still have the original all-black "Elite" model, it's coming up on 4 years now and it's still rocking on)

The response from PC gamers here has been typical; "you're too stupid to use a pc gtfo". And they wonder where the reputation of being obnoxious elitist pricks comes from?

Here's the deal. I buy a console. I know that games will continue to be pumped out for it for quite some time. I know the online system will always be consistent. I know there is no DRM involved. I buy the game, and I play it, it's as simple as that. I don't even have to install it to the hard drive and waste a single second if I don't want to.

I know that there are no system requirements. I know that there are no "catches". I know that when I turn on my Xbox, at no point are my crucial work files on my computer hard ever at any sort of danger. I know that the 360 I bought 4 years ago will eventually get refreshed to a newer model, but I also know that I don't need to spend a penny to make newer games work because of it.

PC gaming has its plusses, but for many people, it's not an economic or long-term solution, and frankly, the attitude of PC gamers alone makes me not want to play.
I'm a PC gamer, and I absolutely agree. The elitism that comes with PC gaming is abysmal and I really don't understand. PC gaming and console gaming are two completely different sorts of hobbies, it really is oranges and apples; and yeah, sure, they both play games, but that should be no reason at all to compare the hobbies. They just attract too different a bunch of player bases.

An objective fact is that PCs are better than consoles, at least from a technical standpoint. They run more games, at better quality, at relatively cheaper prices than consoles do. This is indisputable. The bells and whistles - or the curses, if you'd rather look at it this way - is that it will not be an instant process.

As I mentioned, it is hard. And I think a lot of PC gamers take refuge in this - "I worked harder for a better machine than yours; this makes me better than you!" It's a disgusting attitude, whatever the reasoning behind it, and it needs to stop. PC and console gaming exist, they won't go away and mindlessly throwing shit at one another will never change the fact that this is our spare time we're talking about and you do what you enjoy most! I mean, really. I like that PC gaming can be a difficult beast. I like that it's often a struggle, because it makes it all the more beautiful when I've finally crafted myself a machine that can play all the games I enjoy flawlessly.

Some won't. It's more than understandable - it's just LOGICAL, that they would gravitate towards console gaming. Mind you, console gaming flings insults at people who have, say, picked the "wrong" console, so it's not to say that community is entirely doing itself a service in that regard. But console vs PC? Fuck. If you can't be bothered to understand why someone would pick one over the other, and vice versa, you're a fucking moron and you have no respect from me.
This is quite possibly one of the most awesome posts I have ever read on any gaming-related forum. +1 to you, and thank you.
 

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Nomanslander said:
I'm done, thank you really for nothing but years and years worth of head aches...
Soooo, you say that there was some dark, evil presence standing always near you, and making you do all those things ? :)
 

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Sirron Kcuch said:
I have a 360 for high end games and a low end PC for stuff like Gmod, TF2, Quake III and HL2, which are the best PC games, in my opinion.

I think that should be normal, since the best part of PC gaming is free online, Steam (it's awesome), mods and keyboard and mouse (arguably). You get the best of both worlds at a reasonable price.

I mean, everybody has a computer that can run HL2 nowadays.
And you don't need a super awesome computer to run BF3, because you already have an Xbox, PS3 or whatever.

"But BF on PC is sooo much better"
Suck it up, investing on a powerful PC when owning a console is retarded. Especially since it's just slight differences in gaming
I invested in a great gaming PC not just to run Battlefield 3 on Ultra settings but to run every game I wanted that came out last year and every game I want that is coming out this year too. Why does it matter what someone spends their money on? As long as they enjoy what they pay for it is a good investment.
 

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Nalbis said:
I don't know why, there's just something far more satisfying about running round a corner and killing 5 people on a pad than on the PC (this is coming from a vet PC-FPS PoV though) it almost feels more skilled...
You phrased that a bit backwards, you feel more skilled because it's easier to kill people, and most console CoD matches really go down that way because players only barely pay attention, at the same time they are possibly eating and / or napping.

Now run into a room with 5 guys in a Counter Strike match, at least 4 of them saw you before you noticed them, and 2 already have their crosshairs on your head.
That does not end in a pleasant experience... not for you at least, the other team however will be laughing their arse off.
 
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I had steam problems briefly when I was on Vista, are you using Vista?

My experience has been basically the opposite. 3 dead 360's, PSN outages and constant feckin' updating(instant gratification on consoles?...my ass). PC wise, I've had 1 dead GPU in the years I've been at it...and that earned me a free upgrade for my trouble.

I've just recently gone nvidia 3d vision mk2. Consoles can't even get close to this.
 

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If you want to give up, you can. But you'll most likely regret it. Because the problems you hope to avoid are available on most consoles too. Nothing is designed to operate correctly anymore. Everything is just designed to bring you back to replace things. Unless you know how to avoid the trap.
 

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GenericAmerican said:
You do know that being a console gamer is an embarrassment. And you will be thrown in with the crowds of frat-boy CoD players, and be despised by pretty much everyone.

Also, who uses a sound card anymore?
As opposed to being thrown into what is known as the PC elitist?

Yeah I'm right there with you OP. Only game I even bother with on PC is Civ and SW:TOR.

chstens said:
You're making a much bigger deal out of this than what it actually is, you're acting like you've killed a child.
You might as well if your announcing something that is opposed to PC gaming on the Escapist.
 

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GenericAmerican said:
You do know that being a console gamer is an embarrassment. And you will be thrown in with the crowds of frat-boy CoD players, and be despised by pretty much everyone.

Also, who uses a sound card anymore?
-raises hand-

But then again I edit video for a living.

I can understand the issue. I too have spent many hours of frustration with my computer. However, I just love PC gaming too much to ever call it quits. Sometimes I even enjoy the challenge of fixing a computer. (and discovering you know more about your computer than tech support)
 

Da Orky Man

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Lagao said:
one thing I like about PC is that I don't need to buy a new computer every 2-3 years.
Eh? Not sure if I understand that. This console generation is 7 years old now, so it can't be that. However, I have had to buy enough new parts for my gaming PC that I may well have bought a new one completely. Yet you say you LIKE the PC because of that?

I is confused.
 

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That's great buddy. *Goes off to play STALKER with the "Complete 2009" mod that basically turns a 5 year old game into an impressive current-gen shooter.*
 

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I am so very sick of these PC vs Console threads. Almost every responce is just factualy wrong regarding cost, games, hardware, etc. If you like playing your games on X, then play them on X. Have fun and share your love of X. But ffs don't put shit on platform Y, or gamers who like platform Y. It doesn't matter! There are so many games now that come out on all platforms we can just discuss the games and devs who make them, and not have to get into the whole platform warfare bullshit.