PEGI Says We Dare Isn't So Hot

[SomebodyNowhere]

technically speaking the game and its visuals are probably not all that inappropriate, but the actions it has to do on the other hand could likely be considered much more within adult territory.

 

[mjc0961]

I love how they called spanking "minor assault on a human-like character." Makes it sound like some kind of crime.

Also, I guess any people from the countries complaining about the game lose any right to say crap like "Why are Americans so afraid of sex stuff? Over here we are normal." because guess what, you have parents and other people freaking out over a slightly sexualized mini-game collection. Over there you are not "normal" compared to the "overly sensitive Americans" you are always talking about. So drop the generalizations and remember that being overly sensitive about sex-related stuff depends on the person themselves, not the piece of land they live on.

That's right, it's pretty much a minigame compliation, like Pikmin or Warioware (?).

Pikmin is not a mini-game collection. I don't know why you would think such a thing.

If some idiot strips in front of his TV, that's not really the game showing you inappropriate stuff, it's the idiot stripping.

But don't you see! The evil, dirty video game made him do it! At least that's what the other idiots who the first idiot stripped for, and the other idiot parents and protest groups will say when the news gets out. They are, after all, idiots who have no concept of personal responsibility. Let's hope Ubisoft never makes a game called "We Jump Off A Bridge."

 

[internetzealot1]

Nice to see PEGI stand their ground.

 

[Therumancer]

Well, they do have a point. Even in the US (where they are afraid to release this) it doesn't seem likely that they game would get higher than a PG-13 rating. A lot of people tend to forget that innuendos and breast nudity and such are all perfectly fine within the PG-13 rating. They even made jokes about this in movies like "Scream" if I remember.

What's more, while a novel idea, I honestly can't see many people playing this. For a general group of people hanging out it would be wierd and nerdy, and for a real group of swingers or whatever they would probably have OTHER things on their mind just by having hooked up than deciding to play adult Wii games.

I suspect that in the long run this game is liable to wind up as a "yes, someone thought this was a good idea, and actually marketed it" notation on some kind of game-nerd trivia list.... sort of like the "Virtual Boy" of console party games, or what "Custer's Revenge" was to the old Atari.

 

[Nexus4]

No shit, any of us could've told the world that. But it is nice to see the PEGI at least have the balls to stand behind their decisions.

 

[terror_ninja]

Ok, forget about the rating. Out of all the Wii owners how many will buy this game? Hmmm I suspect very few.

 

[blankedboy]

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Ten bucks says this guy watches Extra Credits.
And I'm agreeing completely.

Ontopic, I don't really care either way (other than the obvious image problem (derp)).

 

[Thaius]

This is a game where the actual gameplay is not in the game itself, but in what the players do with each other IRL. Context of the game should unquestionably be taken into account. A game where the player sees nudity is no more offensive than a game that actually requires the player to perform real sexual acts. If anything, this is more so than simple nudity in a game.

EDIT:

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Agreed. Fully and entirely agreed.

 

[squid5580]

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Wow really? It is making us look like sex criminals? 4 consenting adults having some sexual fun is defined as sex criminals now? And I hate to tell you this but books, games, movies and art all have a "image problem" if you ask the right people. But games do have an image problem It isn't just with Faux news and the likes because they can be easily distracted by shiny objects. No the real image problem is the paranoia coming from "gamers" who jump at every shadow. That is where the real image problem is coming from. Not from blowhards like Jack Thompson that most people realize is just some crazy old man yelling at the kids on his lawn.

 

[Shirokurou]

Europe knows best when it comes to game ratings.
Seriously "We Dare" dares to very little.

 

[Paddin]

Nonetheless, The Sun [http://www.ubi.com] reported that one version of the infamous YouTube trailer ends with the couples swapping partners and going off to have sex, while another has all four of them "romping together."
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Good old The Sun, stirring up a ridiculous amount of controversy over lies just for a laugh. The sad thing is there will be the, how shall we say, "slower" members of the public who actually believe that this game encourages sex parties and swinging parties. If only.

 

[Super Jamz]

You WOULD have to be 12 to find that game adult in any possible manner.

 

[Thyunda]

Nonetheless, The Sun [http://www.ubi.com] reported that one version of the infamous YouTube trailer ends with the couples swapping partners and going off to have sex, while another has all four of them "romping together."
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Good old The Sun, stirring up a ridiculous amount of controversy over lies just for a laugh. The sad thing is there will be the, how shall we say, "slower" members of the public who actually believe that this game encourages sex parties and swinging parties. If only.

Glad somebody else had a good laugh at the Sun's expense. I don't think we have much to worry about...nobody takes the Sun seriously. Also, what's so bad about swinging parties? Bleh, nevermind. Tabloids will never be open-minded. It's like saying the Daily Mail might reconsider its stance on immigration and Princess Diana.

 

[Smooth Operator]

What does Pegi know, she's only 12

 

[Yopaz]

I'm sure this game would have been complained about no matter what age rting they put on it. Now they've just got the "Ubisoft trying to sell sex to kids" deal they're whining about, with mature rating they would just go for the "Ubisoft releases an immoral game" or something like it. Whenever sex is involved there is complaints about it. Sex is taboo and well, I admire that Ubisoft wants to change that, but I wouldn't want this game anyway.

 

[Dogstile]

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Extra Credits watcher, i'll bet a fiver on it. I'm going to go ahead and steal your writing style to make my point.

The Great JT, you're not helping the gaming community look like we're a mature audience. You're actually making us seem like we're not mature enough to handle something like this. I can understand you care about the industry and want to improve our image, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, which is that we're not mature enough to handle mature game, and saying that we dare isn't good enough for the gaming community isn't going to help that.

 

[Trogdor1138]

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Extra Credits watcher, i'll bet a fiver on it. I'm going to go ahead and steal your writing style to make my point.

The Great JT, you're not helping the gaming community look like we're a mature audience. You're actually making us seem like we're not mature enough to handle something like this. I can understand you care about the industry and want to improve our image, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, which is that we're not mature enough to handle mature game, and saying that we dare isn't good enough for the gaming community isn't going to help that.

*claps*

That was great

I've always thought the best way to improve the image of gaming is funnily enough not try and improve it. It just makes us look pretentious and desperate for the entire world to accept our hobby. I'm still on the fence about EC, I've liked some of their episodes but I felt others have had very flawed arguments and take themselves way too seriously. Gaming is a passion, but we just need to relax about it.

 

[elvor0]

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Extra Credits watcher, i'll bet a fiver on it. I'm going to go ahead and steal your writing style to make my point.

The Great JT, you're not helping the gaming community look like we're a mature audience. You're actually making us seem like we're not mature enough to handle something like this. I can understand you care about the industry and want to improve our image, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, which is that we're not mature enough to handle mature game, and saying that we dare isn't good enough for the gaming community isn't going to help that.

In defence of the great JT, I think his problem might lie with the way ubisoft have marketed it as opposed to the game itself, it just looks bad, the same way the dead space 2 "your mom will hate it" advert, and because all of the Fox news-eseque supporters believe that video games are ONLY for children, and that this game is on the Wii, then they must be peddeling it to kids. If they'd just released the game and said "Yeah this is like a spin the bottle for adults on the Wii" as opposed to making a precursor to an orgy, this may have gone down better, as it looks like they're trying to be shocking for the sake of it.

I'm a fan of video games being an accepted medium, and I have no problem with this game, it's existed before in other mediums, abet it seems a bit superflous when you could just play spin the bottle, and no one ever tried to market that as an orgy inducing game. It's like they're marketing it to adults and teens at the same time, as Adults are not going to play this, as the sorts of people (ie swingers) are already going to be doing this and don't need a wii to make it happen, so the only sort of people this is going to appeal to are people not old enough to appreciate sex maturely. Now being like that at 13+ isnt a bad thing, we all went through it, but the trailer just seems to work more towards teens than adults.

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Extra Credits watcher, i'll bet a fiver on it. I'm going to go ahead and steal your writing style to make my point.

The Great JT, you're not helping the gaming community look like we're a mature audience. You're actually making us seem like we're not mature enough to handle something like this. I can understand you care about the industry and want to improve our image, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, which is that we're not mature enough to handle mature game, and saying that we dare isn't good enough for the gaming community isn't going to help that.

*claps*

That was great

I've always thought the best way to improve the image of gaming is funnily enough not try and improve it. It just makes us look pretentious and desperate for the entire world to accept our hobby. I'm still on the fence about EC, I've liked some of their episodes but I felt others have had very flawed arguments and take themselves way too seriously. Gaming is a passion, but we just need to relax about it.

I think it's just because they don't have enough time to really explain everything, alot of their episodes could be decent mini essays, but they've only got 8 minutes to get through it, so they have to leave out a lot of stuff, if you check out some of the written stuff (ala Extra punctuation), you can see their point a bit more. Their intentions are good, and obviously the genuinely want to see the medium evolve, it's no worse than anyone else who believes that, it's just got a physical voice, and a lot of their points are very good.

It's just like myself they get annoyed at the fact that we live in the 21st century where we've demonized DnD, music, (dating back to the Blues for fuck sake), movies, books and any other medium that comes across, and by now I expect the world to think "oh yes last time we demonized something it was pretty fucking stupid" and just leave video games alone to develop on their own.

 

[Dogstile]

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Extra Credits watcher, i'll bet a fiver on it. I'm going to go ahead and steal your writing style to make my point.

The Great JT, you're not helping the gaming community look like we're a mature audience. You're actually making us seem like we're not mature enough to handle something like this. I can understand you care about the industry and want to improve our image, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, which is that we're not mature enough to handle mature game, and saying that we dare isn't good enough for the gaming community isn't going to help that.

In defence of the great JT, I think his problem might lie with the way ubisoft have marketed it as opposed to the game itself, it just looks bad, the same way the dead space 2 "your mom will hate it" advert, and because all of the Fox news-eseque supporters believe that video games are ONLY for children, and that this game is on the Wii, then they must be peddeling it to kids. If they'd just released the game and said "Yeah this is like a spin the bottle for adults on the Wii" as opposed to making a precursor to an orgy, this may have gone down better, as it looks like they're trying to be shocking for the sake of it.

Right, I snipped it down to the important bit.

To be fair, I kinda got what he was getting at, but I wanted to turn it around on him because that comment on making us look like sex criminals annoyed me a fair bit, because there's nothing wrong with the advert other than the fact it is extremely cringe worthy. Marketing wise I agree, silly move, but they did that with adults. If a kid gets brought this, and a kid understands what it all means, then thats the parents fault really.

When we get onto the topic of teens enjoying it, it changes a little bit, but i'm assuming teens are just going to "spin the bottle" if they want to.

 

[elvor0]

Ubisoft, you're not helping the video game industry look like you're appealing to a mature audience. You're making us look like children and sex criminals. I can understand you want to appeal to an older audience and make sort of a for-adults sexy board game, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, and a game such as We Dare isn't going to help that.

Extra Credits watcher, i'll bet a fiver on it. I'm going to go ahead and steal your writing style to make my point.

The Great JT, you're not helping the gaming community look like we're a mature audience. You're actually making us seem like we're not mature enough to handle something like this. I can understand you care about the industry and want to improve our image, I get that. But in case you haven't noticed, video games have kind of an image problem right now, which is that we're not mature enough to handle mature game, and saying that we dare isn't good enough for the gaming community isn't going to help that.

In defence of the great JT, I think his problem might lie with the way ubisoft have marketed it as opposed to the game itself, it just looks bad, the same way the dead space 2 "your mom will hate it" advert, and because all of the Fox news-eseque supporters believe that video games are ONLY for children, and that this game is on the Wii, then they must be peddeling it to kids. If they'd just released the game and said "Yeah this is like a spin the bottle for adults on the Wii" as opposed to making a precursor to an orgy, this may have gone down better, as it looks like they're trying to be shocking for the sake of it.

Right, I snipped it down to the important bit.

To be fair, I kinda got what he was getting at, but I wanted to turn it around on him because that comment on making us look like sex criminals annoyed me a fair bit, because there's nothing wrong with the advert other than the fact it is extremely cringe worthy. Marketing wise I agree, silly move, but they did that with adults. If a kid gets brought this, and a kid understands what it all means, then thats the parents fault really.

When we get onto the topic of teens enjoying it, it changes a little bit, but i'm assuming teens are just going to "spin the bottle" if they want to.

mm, I did sorta ramble a bit there ><, yeah the sex criminals bit was a bit stupid, and the sort of hyperbole Fox news would use, but yeah, silly marketing paints a bad image, is the lesson to be learned from this. I mean personally I don't care whether teens are playing it, the same way I don't care if they're watching porn, I suppose it could end up a bit creepy, but we seem to have established it's not actually that sexy at all, it's just it ends up with the anti-video game crowd screaming.

Although saying that, we could just tell them to grow up and stop being so insecure, which is probably better, every industry has it's faux pars and shovel ware, we shouldn't have to be scared that the entire industry is going to be represented by this one trailer, which is what is going to happen, so we should just shrug it off as incoherent ramblings, we don't need to justify ourselves to people like them.