Perv on a Japanese Schoolgirl in Tekken Team's Project Morpheus Demo

[Candidus]

That looks like something I'll be importing in the future.

As ever I'm amused by the reaction of my fellow Escapists. Disappointed by an appeal to baseness? Baseness is fucking human OP, you don't like it then I don't know what to tell you. Drop the pretense that there's a WRONG way and a RIGHT way to do tits and ass and just enjoy yourself? Become a hermit? I just don't know.

It doesn't matter I guess. I can't wait for this! Keep 'em coming Japan!

 

[Tsun Tzu]

Snip.

I was under the immediate impression that they were referring to the tone of the article and not a specific post.

And we get it. You're an intellectual.

Now, please pick an avatar and settle in. >.>

Reductio ad absurdum and straw men are no more or less viable based on just what exactly upset you.

I would not say I'm smart; I only finished the 10th grade.

I don't want an avatar. I don't know why that's relevant, but there you go.

I didn't say they weren't.

Glad to hear it.

It simply makes you look a bit less like a sock is all. Enjoy your stay!

 

[Tsun Tzu]

Drop the pretense that there's a WRONG way and a RIGHT way to do tits and ass and just enjoy yourself?

The "tits and ass" you are referring to happen to be that of a child. Some people don't think there is a right or wrong way to "do" the "tits and ass" of a child. Could you explain what part of that "amuses" you?

How old is the character depicted in the demo/game? I didn't see where that was mentioned anywhere in the article, or the demo.

With the context, I suppose she could be anywhere from...say...13-18, which, by the way, is an adolescent and not a "child." Given that we don't know what grade the character being depicted is in, or if she's even an actual schoolgirl and not just someone dressed as one, it strikes me as very poor form to go responding to people with such nakedly accusatory language.

 

[Candidus]

I want to highlight a particular portion of your statement:

Drop the pretense that there's a WRONG way and a RIGHT way to do tits and ass and just enjoy yourself?

The "tits and ass" you are referring to happen to be that of a child. Some people don't think there is a right or wrong way to "do" the "tits and ass" of a child. Could you explain what part of that "amuses" you?

This is a Japanese high school girl, which means she's between 16-18.

In the UK, the age of consent is 16 and although I think the only appropriate partner for a 16 year old is someone within a couple of years of their age, I scoff when people from the US call them 'children'. They are young adults, well capable of deciding whether or not it is right for them to start copulating- and whether I agree with it or not, they are also well within their rights to decide to flirt with grown men and women as well. This is true in my view whether the 16 year old in question is real or fictional.

But that aside, you're conflating my comment with the part of this matter that it suits you best to conflate it with.

My chief objection is to the OP's complaint as regards "baseness", and when I say "there's no right or wrong way", I'm thinking of things like Dragon's Crown and other often maligned examples of hyper-sexualisation far more explicit than this.

Basically, stop having a problem with baseness. Everything that is fun is base.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

Drop the pretense that there's a WRONG way and a RIGHT way to do tits and ass and just enjoy yourself?

The "tits and ass" you are referring to happen to be that of a child. Some people don't think there is a right or wrong way to "do" the "tits and ass" of a child. Could you explain what part of that "amuses" you?

How old is the character depicted in the demo/game? I didn't see where that was mentioned anywhere in the article, or the demo.

With the context, I suppose she could be anywhere from...say...13-18, which, by the way, is an adolescent and not a "child." Given that we don't know what grade the character being depicted is in, or if she's even an actual schoolgirl and not just someone dressed as one, it strikes me as very poor form to go responding to people with such nakedly accusatory language.

Child is a perfectly fine descriptor for someone under the age of eighteen. Both Oxford and Merriam give many definitions, including the following:

"A young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority."

and

"A person not yet of age."

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/child
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child

The demo in question is titled "Summer Lesson" and features a young looking girl in a school uniform. What is your issue exactly?

You're fully aware of the suggestion implied by the use of the term. Don't be coy about it now.

Would you say someone who was 13-18, with developed breasts, was not "of age" or "below the age of puberty?"

I'll be charitable and give you "age of majority," though that's a fluid definition that varies from country to country, and "of age" is just as murky, given that it can mean a few different things.

Again, let me remind you that the age of the character in question has not been given and that using the term "child" in order to incite shame in a fellow poster when you don't have all the information required to make that claim is, frankly, just a bit disingenuous.

 

[SadisticFire]

"A young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority."

To be fair you said or, and legal age can be changed from country/culture to country/culture.

OT:Oh those crazy japanese people! always making stuff pervy! Oh theeem. On a different on topic note, did the audio feel super off to the video or am I just *really* bad at lip reading now.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

Yes, I would and do refer to people under eighteen as children. The age of majority is a valid definition. If you dispute that, by all means. But your argument is with Webster and Oxford, not with me.

If someone feels ashamed of their enjoyment of this product or ones like it, that is their issue. Again, no one has said or done anything but state amusement, wonder or shock. Projection does not make for actual persecution.

I'm glad that you have a particular way of referring to an age group and apparently don't have any idea about the implications of using the term.

Some people don't think there is a right or wrong way to "do" the "tits and ass" of a child. Could you explain what part of that "amuses" you?

None what so ever.

I'm less glad to see that you've completely avoided the fact that you do not know the age of the character, which, again, could be anywhere from 13-18 if she's an "actual" schoolgirl, dependent on grade, or well into her 20's-30's if she's not...nevermind the fact that the character is pixels.

Note the broad age range. It's there because we don't know the age of the character.

You've gotten me a bit down here though, so please, enjoy your morning.

 

[Doom972]

While it's not explicitly explicit, it's certainly somewhat... disappointing to see Sony appealing to such a base instinct, particularly with all that female representation in video games controversy [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137184-Anita-Sarkeesian-and-Gamers-Against-Games] flowing around the web recently.

I applaud Sony for ignoring that and giving people what they want. It makes me want to get a PS4 on principle alone, and I'm a PC gamer.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Right now I imagine the head of Team Ninja is jumping up, putting his tie around his head, shotgunning a schooner of Sapporo Dry and screaming out "Shots Fired, ************!"

I don't believe for one minute that the DoA guys aren't going to want in on this action.

 

[mtarzaim02]

I see this as another Dream C Club-like game, where you speak to an acted stereotype of women, just to feel a hypocrite feeling of confort and warmth.
Basically, a hostess game, which will cost a lot less than any real hostess bar.
No sure either if we can call that "sub-culture", considering this late-night activity is quite shared among japanese salarymen.

btw, if the real player was at the same age of the virtual girl depicted here, would it be more appropriate?

 

[Tsun Tzu]

Yes, I would and do refer to people under eighteen as children. The age of majority is a valid definition. If you dispute that, by all means. But your argument is with Webster and Oxford, not with me.

If someone feels ashamed of their enjoyment of this product or ones like it, that is their issue. Again, no one has said or done anything but state amusement, wonder or shock. Projection does not make for actual persecution.

I'm glad that you have a particular way of referring to an age group and apparently don't have any idea about the implications of using the term.

Some people don't think there is a right or wrong way to "do" the "tits and ass" of a child. Could you explain what part of that "amuses" you?

None what so ever.

I'm less glad to see that you've completely avoided the fact that you do not know the age of the character, which, again, could be anywhere from 13-18 if she's an "actual" schoolgirl, dependent on grade, or well into her 20's-30's if she's not.

Note the broad age range. It's there because we don't know the age of the character.

You've gotten me a bit down here though, so please, enjoy your morning.

I didn't ask what portion of that amuses you. I asked someone else - the person that made the statement.

I avoided nothing:

The demo in question is titled "Summer Lesson" and features a young looking girl in a school uniform.

Arguing a young looking girl in a school uniform, featured in a demo called "Summer Lessons" is at least eighteen and not a child is by all means your right. But to extend that further and suggest it must be likely enough to withhold judgement is not something that can be reasonably expected. If it were any other context, I doubt you would argue that a person of similar look and style was an adult.

The assumptions I am making: she is not an adult; she is wearing a school uniform; she is female. I'll have to beg your pardon if any of those assumptions are incorrect, but I see absolutely no reason to believe any are incorrect. Wanting them to be or thinking they might be is not evidence to the contrary, and her appearance and her presentation are valid enough for me.

You avoided it until this very post, but eh...

Again, I'm quite glad that you've made a decision regarding the age of a character you don't actually know the age of, which is your right as well, but I'm going to have to disagree with your (subconscious?) decision to use said term (and its implication) as a bludgeon against someone else.

Without the context of "schoolgirl" one could easily make an argument for an age beyond your "requirements" for the definition of "child." Why? Because it's a young looking woman. Do you know a lot of young women? Hell, I've known plenty women who do not look their age, on either end of the scale. Japanese women especially are noted for being difficult to gauge the age of...so.

With the context of "schoolgirl" the age range runs from 13-18, depending on the grade. With 18 being the age of a "legal adult" in most countries, (20 in Japan, curiously) that narrows the age you could rationally consider her to be a "child" to 13-17. And again, this is assuming that the "schoolgirl" is an "actual" schoolgirl and this isn't some sort of roleplay.

And, again, I'm glad that you've made assumptions without necessary details, but your assumptions on the matter are not evidence in and of themselves, for which I need to provide contrary evidence.

We can certainly agree to disagree, but perhaps tone down the obvious attempts to shame your peers.

 

[Grahav]

While it's not explicitly explicit, it's certainly somewhat... disappointing to see Sony appealing to such a base instinct, particularly with all that female representation in video games controversy [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137184-Anita-Sarkeesian-and-Gamers-Against-Games] flowing around the web recently.

I applaud Sony for ignoring that and giving people what they want. It makes me want to get a PS4 on principle alone, and I'm a PC gamer.

Pretty much. I bought the hell out of DoA 5 and Dragon's Crown after all the media tried to bash them with the politically correct hammer.

Also games don't cause violence, they only cause rape. Apparently.

People really think we are stupid enough to not distinguish reality and Escapist fantasies.