Perv on a Japanese Schoolgirl in Tekken Team's Project Morpheus Demo

[Lightknight]

Oh no, people have fantasies. Someone call the puritan police to prudishly complain about how organisms evolved to survive through reproduction are focused on the elements of reproduction including role-play. Let's be sure to defend the rights of ordered 1's and 0's!

*psst, no one tell them about the internet in which real school girls are getting perved on, because then they may have a real problem with real victims to deal with*

Seriously though, while I've never been particularly mindful of this fetish, I understand that they do exist and I'm not going to demonize people for being attracted to those uniforms. Lord only knows how I thought about those cheer leader uniforms when I was still in school. Is the age of the girl creepy? Probably. I do take issue with questionable digital representations of children. But my highschool had 18 (norm) and 19 year olds (semi-common). May have even had a 20-year old or two (held back twice or started a year late and held back once).

Eh, if I'm going to pick my battles though, I'd say I care a lot less about this particular scenario since I don't know anything about her age.

 

[Deshin]

Cherry-picking? No, friend. Here, let me ask you a question: why aren't you using this definition:

"One strongly influenced by another or by a place or state of affairs." Or;

"A son or daughter of human parents." Or;

"An immature or irresponsible person."

Because you are choosing the definition you think best describes your intended meaning. Or are you cherry-picking too?

C-O-N-T-E-X-T

The context we have for now is a person's age, not their relation or mental capacity. I can see what you're doing ya know, knock it off. (I believe you're smart enough to know what you're doing and are intentionally doing it)

 

[kael013]

Child is a perfectly fine descriptor for someone under the age of eighteen. Both Oxford and Merriam give many definitions, including the following:

"A young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority." - http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/child and "A person not yet of age." - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child

Well, let's look at your definitions: "A young human being below the age of puberty" - well she obviously isn't as she has breasts, something a woman doesn't have before puberty. So that just leaves "or below the legal age of majority" which is more nebulous: 18-21 in the US, 16 in Bolivia, and [i/][b/]8[/b][/i] in Saudi Arabia and Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority#Countries_and_subdivisions). So, sorry, no, child is NOT a perfectly fine descriptor for someone under the age of 18. Heck, even the definitions you give don't support that conclusion. The vast majority of cultures may have 18 as their age of majority (and even a good portion of them have caveats for younger ages if married/emancipated/has a kid/etc.) but that doesn't give the members of those cultures - that means you and me - the right to impose our views on those who don't by setting an universal definition on something so nebulous and arbitrary.

[quote/]What is your issue exactly?[/quote]

Yeah, really. What [i/]is[/i] your issue?

OT: Oh, Japan, ignoring the current controversy and spreading diversity by appealing to the perv in every man and lesbian. Never change.

 

[Lightknight]

Child is a perfectly fine descriptor for someone under the age of eighteen. Both Oxford and Merriam give many definitions, including the following:

"A young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority."

and

"A person not yet of age."

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/child
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child

The demo in question is titled "Summer Lesson" and features a young looking girl in a school uniform. What is your issue exactly?

Do you think the definition perhaps applies to human children and not say, digital 1's and 0's that were never born and have no sentience or physical form?

I mean, don't get me wrong, I have a serious problem with depicting young children even in digital form. But I'm just pointing out that this is not a child. This is not a person. This is an object, an IP. Might as well be one of those Japanese love pillows.

As for the age of the individual. Is the age known? As stated above, I went to school with 18, 19, and potentially 20 year olds (though 20 year olds would have had to have been held back twice). I've seen Japanese girls in their 30's that looked younger than this one. Do universities also have uniforms in Japan like some do here?

Additionally, is there any explicit content being held here? Is its erotic potential only relevant to those who would have a fetish about this? For example, would I, having no school girl fetish, play this game and just see it as a boring study session sim? Or is the girl specifically depicted sexually in a way that would make me subconsciously sexualize the image?

Don't know. But you know what? Guys aren't doing anything wrong if they do like the uniform and if they do like Japanese girls. They're only doing something wrong if it's specific to children.

 

[Roofstone]

Maybe it is because I look at porn all the time, but what is the issue here? It is not really that pervy.. Is it?

 

[Ruisu]

Nothing disappointing here, except maybe that westerns can't deal with the fact that fictional characters are fictional, and pretty much anything goes with them.

 

[Lightknight]

Child is a perfectly fine descriptor for someone under the age of eighteen. Both Oxford and Merriam give many definitions, including the following:

"A young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority." - http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/child and "A person not yet of age." - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child

Well, let's look at your definitions: "A young human being below the age of puberty" - well she obviously isn't as she has breasts, something a woman doesn't have before puberty. So that just leaves "or below the legal age of majority" which is more nebulous: 18-21 in the US, 16 in Bolivia, and [i/][b/]8[/b][/i] in Saudi Arabia and Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority#Countries_and_subdivisions). So, sorry, no, child is NOT a perfectly fine descriptor for someone under the age of 18. Heck, even the definitions you give don't support that conclusion. The vast majority of cultures may have 18 as their age of majority (and even a good portion of them have caveats for younger ages if married/emancipated/has a kid/etc.) but that doesn't give the members of those cultures - that means you and me - the right to impose our views on those who don't by setting an universal definition on something so nebulous and arbitrary.

It should be noted that the age of majority is also not the age of sexual consent. Japan, for example, can have the age of consent ranging anywhere from 13 to 18.

So citing the legal word "child" as being a person who isn't in the majority is also a bit of a red herring if we're discussing sexuality even though we are quite appalled at the notion of 13 year-old consent.

Defining someone as a child legally is more of a bureaucratic definition than cultural. So it shouldn't necessarily flood over into a cultural discussion.

 

[Lightknight]

I have a serious problem with depicting young children even in digital form. But I'm just pointing out that this is not a child. This is not a person. This is an object, an IP. Might as well be one of those Japanese love pillows.

What is digital form if not 1's and 0's? I am curious as to how you came to believe that the digital depiction of "young children" is wrong, but the use of computer code to display "young children" is not. Did you not say "this is not a child. This is not a person." So what exactly is wrong with displaying 1's and 0's that look like a child, if they "are not people?" Either they are people, or they are not. You can't argue using both definitions.

I'm not arguing for or against your statement. I am just very curious as to how this occurred.

I'm stating that she isn't a she. 'It' is a nothing. Lines in a painting, words on a page. It has no rights, no thoughts, no emotions. Does not suffer pain or humiliation, does not desire.

So I'm making a distinction for the definition you presented as not one that flows into the digital non-human side. That this is not a child. However, at best it could be a depiction of a child and I would have a problem with that if done with erotic intentions. As is, her age is ambiguous. she certainly doesn't fall into the toddler-looking Chinese olympic gymnast entries that were supposed to be at least 15-16. But she also isn't 35 though I'll admit to having seen Japanese women in their 30's that I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow at seeing in a high school class.

So... I am disagreeing with your use of the definition to apply to non-humans, but agreeing that depiction of minors in erotic manners is unethical and immoral. But I'm also prefacing that we know nothing of this 'game' nor the actual age of the individual. There's also a philosophical debate on how 1's and 0's can ever be immoral. Sure, you and I have personal qualms with it. But it's entirely victimless. If I can mow down thousands of 1's and 0's then can I really blame someone for getting the hots for a 17 year old school girl? Err... morals are hard.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

>"perv on a Japanese schoolgirl"
>video shows nothing of the sort
>girl's AI responds to lewd gestures

Cool sensationalist title Escapist.

 

[gigastar]

Only a matter of time until the breast physics developers get their hands on the tech.

Oh im willing to bet that Team Ninja is already working on something with this tech.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Why can't japan just get off its perverse fascination with a being a high school student with all its awkward bullshit. I'd swear that judging by their entertainment industry you'd think that life just ends for the Japanese man when he gets his diploma out of high school.
Life gets way more interesting out of highschool but maybe thats just for west. Maybe in japan you go to college and then march off to your 12 hour a day 6 days a week cubical job and stay there till you commit suicide in your depressing tiny tokyo apartment.

Easy there fella, let's not get bogged down too much.

But I too share the confusion about Japan's apparent love with the awkward, bashful high school girl aesthetic.

 

[WindKnight]

it reminds me of 3D animated hentai. Don't ask.

What needs to be asked, it's pretty self-explanatory.

OT: Well duh. Anybody expected Japanese game developers not to make something like this the moment they got their hands on a VR system? Ogling girls sells like hotcakes in Japan, just look at current anime. Sure, so it does in the West, but we tend to be a bit more discreet.

Funny thing is, when the most infamous hentai Urotsukidoji: legend of the Overfiend was released in the UK, there were perhaps 500 anime fans... and it sold over 50,000 copies, which also a lot better than it did in Japan.

Not gonna say some weird s*** doesn't come out of Japan, but we in the west sure love to gobble it up, and the primary audience isn't anime fans.

Why can't japan just get off its perverse fascination with a being a high school student with all its awkward bullshit. I'd swear that judging by their entertainment industry you'd think that life just ends for the Japanese man when he gets his diploma out of high school.
Life gets way more interesting out of highschool but maybe thats just for west. Maybe in japan you go to college and then march off to your 12 hour a day 6 days a week cubical job and stay there till you commit suicide in your depressing tiny tokyo apartment.

Easy there fella, let's not get bogged down too much.

But I too share the confusion about Japan's apparent love with the awkward, bashful high school girl aesthetic.

The majority of the stuff we're seeing is aimed at teenagers/young adults. Leaving aside Shojo (girls), the majority of stuff that gets proted over is either Shonen (boys) or Seinen (adolescent/young adult boys).