Perv on a Japanese Schoolgirl in Tekken Team's Project Morpheus Demo

[Not G. Ivingname]

I do have to ask, why are they using THIS to market Tekken? Tekken isn't a dating sim series, it's a FIGHTING game series. Really, this should be it's own game. There is a (disturbing) market for it, why not just make a game directly for them.

Also, the Oculus Rift is a great tool for a lot of games, but I don't imagine a fighting game (barring one in the style of Punch Out or something) really benefiting from virtual reality.

 

[giles]

I do have to ask, why are they using THIS to market Tekken? Tekken isn't a dating sim series, it's a FIGHTING game series. Really, this should be it's own game. There is a (disturbing) market for it, why not just make a game directly for them.

What? Who said they're using this "to market Tekken"? As far as I understand it, they're just the same people who work on Tekken..
Also considering the DoA series, this is right up the fighting game alley and actually pretty tame.

 

[Triality]

I do have to ask, why are they using THIS to market Tekken? Tekken isn't a dating sim series, it's a FIGHTING game series. Really, this should be it's own game. There is a (disturbing) market for it, why not just make a game directly for them.

It's Team Tekken. Not the Tekken franchise. There's no discussion about Team Tekken making an interactive VR simulator to market Tekken. Their simply spreading their technical expertise into other markets for their bosses at the top.

I refer back to my salient point about Namco Bandai wanting a piece of Konami's Love Plus pie.

 

[Brockyman]

Perv on a Japanese Schoolgirl in Tekken Team's Project Morpheus Demo

Well, the Tekken team has certainly made its audience clear...

Oh Japan. I mean, I'm sure that when VR first started gaining traction, people were wondering how they were going to find more... perverted uses of the technology, but you wouldn't have thought Sony would use such a demo in its official, pre-Tokyo Games Show press conference? Well, that's pretty much exactly what has happened, as the Tekken team has used the press conference to announce "Summer Lesson" - a Project Morpheus game where you perv on a Japanese school girl.

Summer Lesson puts the player in said school girl's room, where players will interact with the girl... in some way. That's about all the solid details we were able to ascertain from the short demo, but it had a very, very creepy voyeuristic feel about it, particularly when the player would get too close to the girl and she would pull back in discomfort.

The player is also shown nodding, or shaking their head, in response to the girl's yes or no questions.

While it's not explicitly explicit, it's certainly somewhat... disappointing to see Sony appealing to such a base instinct, particularly with all that female representation in video games controversy [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137184-Anita-Sarkeesian-and-Gamers-Against-Games] flowing around the web recently.

The demo will be playable at this year's Tokyo Game Show, which we will be attending, so we will be sure to update once we've gone hands (or eyes?) on with it.

Source: Sony [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D-Wr_3-E5U]

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It's been awhile since I saw an Escapist article follow no standards what-so-ever. This isn't a news story, and shouldn't be in the "news" section of any website. This is your own (culturally bias) opinion of this game, and should have been labeled as such, not as a news story. I probably wouldn't have been comfortable with it either, but present the facts and let me make up my own mind instead of defaming Japanese culture in a story that probably would result in a Warning if it was in the forum.

 

[lionsprey]

uh what? that looks less like a game about perving on school girls and more like a tech demo.

 

[LobsterFeng]

This might be a controversial opinion but if Japan isn't allowed to make weird perverted games anymore than who is?

 

[Lightknight]

However, I would be against pornographic depictions of a child even if it weren't actually a child and was just a construction.

So I'm trying to disagree with the individual's misappropriation of the term to apply to non-humans while simultaneously not trying to say it's morally acceptable to depict, even fictionally, children in inappropriate ways even though there's no victim in a fictional construction.

Why would it not be morally acceptable? Isn't the whole issue with pedophily and child pornography the damage it can cause to the children involved? So what is morally wrong with the fictional depiction of the crime?

Am I not permitted to be morally against any depiction of such things? Would you disagree that the general consensus is that even fictional depictions of it are wrong?

Though, let's be clear. The video shown in this thread isn't that. This is what you make of it. If you have a fetish for school girls then it's dirty. If not, then it's an interactive sim of some kind.

 

[rofltehcat]

Uhm... isn't this just a more interactive version of the graphical novel games that are so popular with some people? The whole setup sounds like it. Of course the perving in this game doesn't really seem limited to suggestive manga still images, as normal for these titles, but by the player trying to look up her skirt or down her cleavage.

Other than that it was clear that one of the first things developed for a VR system would be porn. I'm pretty sure there will be lots of far creepier shit. *shudder*

 

[TessaraVejgan]

I don't see a problem here. People as usual are making it out to be more than it is. I am looking forward to VN type of games using these things.

 

[Draconalis]

no one in their right mind refers to teenagers as 'children'

Ironically... the Japanese do.

They treat their teenagers as children till they reach the age of majority.

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For the record... Age of Majority and Age of Consent are two different things.

Example, the Age of Majority in the US is 18, the Age of Consent is set by state, and in Texas is 17.

"Children" in Texas can legally have sex.

So long as the child is 17, you cannot press charges for statutory rape.

So no matter how much you think sexualizing minors is a terrible thing, in some cases... they're legal regardless.

 

[Dango]

I can't take that man seriously with that shirt, haircut and sunglasses. He looks like the personification of lonely otakus.

Also I couldn't stop laughing at the motion the woman did for nodding her head, it's like you have to break your fuckin neck just to say "yes" to something.

 

[Someone Depressing]

This seems to be communicating one of two things...

A) CNN is right and Japan is full of pedophiles.
B) Japan is still being infested with social simulators.

Which... well, it doesn't look like the horrible, all sexual monstrosity that some are making it seem like. Then again, that's all we can do - speculate. I just suppose we'll have to wait and see. After all, the girl seems to recoil if the player gets too friendly, and maybe it has some sort of in-game value that determines your relationship with the girl, and doing things like that will decrease it, or something to that effect.

Or it could make Rapelay blush like a whore.

We'll just have to wait and see. I suppose if it's innocent then, yay, Japan has not disappointed everyone ever.

 

[oldtaku]

Prediction: you will use the Move controller as a Hitachi Wand.

Because Japan.

 

[Draconalis]

I am using English and English allows me to define the world child to mean a human under the age of majority. If you don't want to use that English or you think it's bad, ok. But that has nothing to do with the validity of the definition.

This also means you can't be taken seriously.

Also, "your English" is flawed because it's not taking into account the variability of Age of Consent.

 

[burnout02urza]

This is a double middle-finger to the haters, and I approve entirely.

The dawn of a new age is upon us, and it is glorious. If this is anything remotely like what I think it's going to be like, it's going to be a guaranteed purchase for me. It's the first step to making an actual waifu simulator - To live out anime fantasies in real time.

Thank you, Sony. Thank you.

Amid the black ocean of political correctness, you are a beacon of hope to us all.

edit: I'll also add that it's not about sex, not really. It's about being able to interact with a character who doesn't have the utterly exhausting flaws of real women. Remember Love+? Remember why it was so compelling? Love+ didn't have any explicit content, and wasn't actually that racy.

And yet, it still sold like crack simply because the characters were immensely likeable - And yes, affectionate towards the protagonist. The Japanese have a way of writing romances that aren't as wearying as Western ones, for some reason...Though that's probably just my personal bias.

 

[6037084]

This just in Japanese culture is STILL different than western culture.
More news at 11

 

[Lightknight]

I am using English and English allows me to define the world child to mean a human under the age of majority. If you don't want to use that English or you think it's bad, ok. But that has nothing to do with the validity of the definition.

This also means you can't be taken seriously.

Also, "your English" is flawed because it's not taking into account the variability of Age of Consent.

It should also be noted that Japan actually has some areas with 13 years old being the age of consent. I mean, gross, but true.

 

[verdant monkai]

How is this perverted?

You are just sitting in a room with a girl as she asks you yes/no questions.

I'm sorry but if this is the worst people can find to showcase to accuse the Tekken people of the objectification of women, then the Tekken people are clean. Because this isn't exactly sexy, it looks more like it'd verge on boring.

 

[Ruisu]

However, I would be against pornographic depictions of a child even if it weren't actually a child and was just a construction.

So I'm trying to disagree with the individual's misappropriation of the term to apply to non-humans while simultaneously not trying to say it's morally acceptable to depict, even fictionally, children in inappropriate ways even though there's no victim in a fictional construction.

Why would it not be morally acceptable? Isn't the whole issue with pedophily and child pornography the damage it can cause to the children involved? So what is morally wrong with the fictional depiction of the crime?

Am I not permitted to be morally against any depiction of such things? Would you disagree that the general consensus is that even fictional depictions of it are wrong?

Though, let's be clear. The video shown in this thread isn't that. This is what you make of it. If you have a fetish for school girls then it's dirty. If not, then it's an interactive sim of some kind.

Well, sorry if I came off more agressive than I intended. I'm not talking about the video itself anymore too, just trying to discuss personal views about the subject of fictional characters and such. I'm genuinely curious about what makes you (and other people) uneasy on the fact of people enjoying the fantasy of something that in real life is condemned.

 

[Lightknight]

However, I would be against pornographic depictions of a child even if it weren't actually a child and was just a construction.

So I'm trying to disagree with the individual's misappropriation of the term to apply to non-humans while simultaneously not trying to say it's morally acceptable to depict, even fictionally, children in inappropriate ways even though there's no victim in a fictional construction.

Why would it not be morally acceptable? Isn't the whole issue with pedophily and child pornography the damage it can cause to the children involved? So what is morally wrong with the fictional depiction of the crime?

Am I not permitted to be morally against any depiction of such things? Would you disagree that the general consensus is that even fictional depictions of it are wrong?

Though, let's be clear. The video shown in this thread isn't that. This is what you make of it. If you have a fetish for school girls then it's dirty. If not, then it's an interactive sim of some kind.

Well, sorry if I came off more agressive than I intended. I'm not talking about the video itself anymore too, just trying to discuss personal views about the subject of fictional characters and such. I'm genuinely curious about what makes you (and other people) uneasy on the fact of people enjoying the fantasy of something that in real life is condemned.

Aside from the distaste of it? I suppose it comes down to the slippery slope argument that this may evolve into harming real children by supporting the consumption of this kind of stuff.

Sure, me killing people in video games doesn't translate into me killing people in real life. I get that. So I understand that this is a slippery slope argument that doesn't necessarily follow. But there's just something socially driving me to have an extreme distaste for anything that feels harmful to children. A bias, sure, but I also have a bias against murder so biases aren't necessarily wrong or bad when it comes to morality.

Can I ask you why you believe murder to be wrong (assuming you do)?