PETA Tries to Guilt Animals Out of Mafia Wars

Melancholy_Ocelot

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While I'm not entirely sure if this is true...I'll direct everyone to this link

http://www.blameitonthevoices.com/2010/04/peta-facts.html
 

ThrobbingEgo

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It's a social issue that they're addressing by voicing their side. There's nothing wrong with what PeTA's doing here. Pointing to other things PeTA has done (which you're probably misunderstanding anyways) is just a case of Ad Hominem Tu Quoque [http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem-tu-quoque.html].

Who they are doesn't automatically delegitimize what they say.
 

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The only good that's ever gotten out from PETA is their quite awesome ads. You know, the one's with the women against wearing fur...
 

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MaxChaos said:
The amount of ignorance in these comments is a bit alarming. The reason they're against this inclusion is to stop the promotion of animals as weapons. All the points they make in their statement are true, but I guess it's down to the individual to decide whether or not they agree or not.

A lot of the allegations against PETA that you mention ("don't breed with humans", renaming fish 'sea kittens') were either done light-heartedly or taken out of context.

HOWEVER PETA pretty much is the crazed militant uncle of the animal-rights world: we appreciate their hands-on protests and eye-opening investigations, but they've suffered so much PR setback that they can't help but be more than a joke in most people's eyes, which is a damn shame.
To suggest that Mafia Wars is promoting weaponized animals is as ridiculous as suggesting they're promoting murder, robbery, drug dealing, etc. I mean, you play as a Mafia don, so you're not expected to be a nice guy in that context, are you? Also, I think they harm animal rights activism more than helping by making them all look like a bunch of loons.
 

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So, a seal walk into a bar.

The bartender asks him what he'll have.

The seal says "Anything but a Canadian club."

PETA annoy me a great deal. Of course, I'm sure this applies to a great deal of people here. They put out blatantly misled facts and acct as if their "Shit doesn't stink". Bat shit crazy and pig shit stupid, they are.

EDIT: Not that all of them are so, this organization just makes my blood boil.
 

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Johnny Cain said:
Amazing that they're worried about the addition of animals to THIS title of all things.
Mafia Wars is little more than a calculator with pictures for buttons, but I suppose things have been going so well that PETA wanted to jump at something that seemed marginally questionable by their (more than a little) blurry standards.
Or maybe it's just something that a lot of people play, so the issue will likely reach that audience. Animal rights issues are societal problems, and if PeTA wants to succeed they have to reach people.

It's like you don't understand how activism works.
 

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*facepalm* i start to forget about you peta and then you pull this crazy shit.

More fictional people have been killed in video games than any fictional animals besides why does it matter no real animals are getting hurt.

you know what because of this im going to kfc for lunch today. XD yum
 

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Well, this is....dumb.


It's a game and clearly not to be taken seriously as the inclusion of tigers and lions shows.
 

Jared

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Well no shock there...doubt it will do much as it's just virtual -.-

PETA need to calm down...
 

ThrobbingEgo

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somekindarobot said:
MaxChaos said:
The amount of ignorance in these comments is a bit alarming. The reason they're against this inclusion is to stop the promotion of animals as weapons. All the points they make in their statement are true, but I guess it's down to the individual to decide whether or not they agree or not.

A lot of the allegations against PETA that you mention ("don't breed with humans", renaming fish 'sea kittens') were either done light-heartedly or taken out of context.

HOWEVER PETA pretty much is the crazed militant uncle of the animal-rights world: we appreciate their hands-on protests and eye-opening investigations, but they've suffered so much PR setback that they can't help but be more than a joke in most people's eyes, which is a damn shame.
To suggest that Mafia Wars is promoting weaponized animals is as ridiculous as suggesting they're promoting murder, robbery, drug dealing, etc. I mean, you play as a Mafia don, so you're not expected to be a nice guy in that context, are you? Also, I think they harm animal rights activism more than helping by making them all look like a bunch of loons.
The point isn't that Mafia Wars will cause people to murder animals. The point is, a lot of people play Mafia Wars, players may notice PeTA's campaign, and will be exposed to PeTA's side of the larger issue. I don't think that the game should be censored for a public concern that people will weaponize animals, but I do think this is a brilliant campaign, as it instantly becomes relevant to people who do play Mafia Wars.
 

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somekindarobot said:
To suggest that Mafia Wars is promoting weaponized animals is as ridiculous as suggesting they're promoting murder, robbery, drug dealing, etc. I mean, you play as a Mafia don, so you're not expected to be a nice guy in that context, are you? Also, I think they harm animal rights activism more than helping by making them all look like a bunch of loons.
I'm not suggesting that, PETA is. I was just clarifying it for those who didn't seem to get it. And what it seems to me that PETA are trying to disestablish the link between certain breeds of animal (especially dogs) and violent crime, which is fair enough.

And they certainly don't harm animal rights activism - they give it more mainstream press than any other organisation, which is what's important. I agree that their public image is a little tarnished, but I made that point in my original post.
 

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ThrobbingEgo said:
Johnny Cain said:
Amazing that they're worried about the addition of animals to THIS title of all things.
Mafia Wars is little more than a calculator with pictures for buttons, but I suppose things have been going so well that PETA wanted to jump at something that seemed marginally questionable by their (more than a little) blurry standards.
Or maybe it's just something that a lot of people play, so the issue will likely reach that audience. Animal rights issues are societal problems, and if PeTA wants to succeed they have to reach people.

It's like you don't understand how activism works.
Oh I do, trust me.
I just think it's cheap, and have noticed that the splash of an activist statement/campaign barely lasts more than a week. Especially on the internet. Most of the people posting in this thread will probably disregard this issue come tomorrow :)
 

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As a vegetarian and someone who tries to avoid running over animals while driving, I have to say I detest PETA in every way possible. I won't claim they lack a good vision, but their methods bring nothing but harm to their movement. In short: PETA=batshit, misinformed and hypocritical morons bent on imposing their will on everybody else.
And to complain about the depiction of animals in a browser game is nothing short of ludicrous. Yet another organization in desperate need of retard fumigation...
 

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I've socialized with a member of the organization, before. She showed me a video of folks skinning live rabbits for fur. Now, this is strange because if the rabbit dies in a painful way, the fur becomes stiff and unusable. The skinners would have realized this and simply broken their necks quickly, painlessly and efficiently, as is the proper routine for skinning a rabbit for any purpose.

When I explained this to her and told her that the video was most likely PETA doing it themselves in order to gai nshock value, she didn't listen to me.

I was a mad/sad panda that day.
 

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Johnny Cain said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Johnny Cain said:
Amazing that they're worried about the addition of animals to THIS title of all things.
Mafia Wars is little more than a calculator with pictures for buttons, but I suppose things have been going so well that PETA wanted to jump at something that seemed marginally questionable by their (more than a little) blurry standards.
Or maybe it's just something that a lot of people play, so the issue will likely reach that audience. Animal rights issues are societal problems, and if PeTA wants to succeed they have to reach people.

It's like you don't understand how activism works.
Oh I do, trust me.
I just think it's cheap, and have noticed that the splash of an activist statement/campaign barely lasts more than a week. Especially on the internet. Most of the people posting in this thread will probably disregard this issue come tomorrow :)
But you heard it. And you can't unhear it. Make no mistake, this campaign has done it's job.
 

Johnny Cain

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ThrobbingEgo said:
Johnny Cain said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Johnny Cain said:
Amazing that they're worried about the addition of animals to THIS title of all things.
Mafia Wars is little more than a calculator with pictures for buttons, but I suppose things have been going so well that PETA wanted to jump at something that seemed marginally questionable by their (more than a little) blurry standards.
Or maybe it's just something that a lot of people play, so the issue will likely reach that audience. Animal rights issues are societal problems, and if PeTA wants to succeed they have to reach people.

It's like you don't understand how activism works.
Oh I do, trust me.
I just think it's cheap, and have noticed that the splash of an activist statement/campaign barely lasts more than a week. Especially on the internet. Most of the people posting in this thread will probably disregard this issue come tomorrow :)
But you heard it. And you can't unhear it. Make no mistake, this campaign has done it's job.
Exactamundo.
(This didn't need replying to I just wanted an excuse to use that word)