Pirate Decries Piracy After Piracy Program Pirated

[Byers]

Okay, I will concede to you that, under your definition, I am a pirate and I'm essentially calling the kettle black. Now, let's see if we can put the outright arguing aside for a moment and try to have a thoughtful discussion again, if not for a moment.

Real quick, I'd like you to clarify something for me that may help me better understand your point of view. Why do you consider any form of copying a type of media to be piracy when it seems that your stance is pro-piracy? I use the word "seems" because that's the impression that I've gotten from your arguments, so if I'm off the mark here, you can go ahead and consider this post an apology while we're at it.

Oh I admit, I like to try out stuff without paying for it, particularly because so little really seems worth my money these days. If something truly outstanding comes along I have no problem paying for it. But those things are few and far in between. So for me it's either try out stuff I wouldn't normally give a chance if I had to pay for them, or only go with what I think is guaranteed to be great.
Occasionally one of those long shots will turn out to be something really great and I may buy it and support future endeavors by the developer/artist. A lot of the time it proves to be another exercise in mediocrity that doesn't really push the envelope in any way, whose release only to make a buck is so glaringly obvious that the thought alone of actually having spent money on it makes me physically ill. I guess that's a little dramatic, but not far off.

However, I don't really like nor understand the whole vilifying of anyone engaging in piracy, as so many of us do it to some extent, whether we choose to trivialize our own transgressions or not. In my opinion it raises awareness regarding quality and what's really worth spending money on, and even if some of these pirates are high school or college kids who wouldn't really buy anything right now, when they get a real job a few years down the line, I'm pretty sure they will. Probably not the titles for sale today, but at least more of that money will be spent on more worthy talent and encourage quality.
I hate the whole trend of big business turning the stuff that's supposed to be entertainment and art into a game of 'how do we get the most profit with the least effort' that every major entertainment industry has become more and more about.

And I'm not the one who thinks copying all these forms of media, like CDs, should be piracy, I leave that to the powers that be:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071002-sony-bmgs-chief-anti-piracy-lawyer-copying-music-you-own-is-stealing.html

http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/12/11/riaa.on.cd.ripping/

 

[sheic99]

So is that CD you burned for your girlfriend to listen to in her car, or any of those other numerous things you might have done without considering it piracy because it, like, didn't really hurt anyone and, like, everyone else does stuff like that. It's not really piracy unless it's someone else that does it, right?

You are completely wrong there. First it is not piracy. Pirates use machine guns to rob boats in the ocean.
Second, copyright law allows for copies to be made and distributed as long as no money is made and it is done in person. I can make a copy of any game, movie or album and give it to any person I want to and there is nothing illegal about it.

RIAA and music industry bigwigs disagree. Neither copying for friends or 'backing up' is covered under the fair use clause according to the powers that be.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071002-sony-bmgs-chief-anti-piracy-lawyer-copying-music-you-own-is-stealing.html

http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/12/11/riaa.on.cd.ripping/

The RIAA and music industry may disagree, but the lawsuit only stated that they were at fault for uploading music and has the potential to be shared with millions of people. And that it should be stealing, but is not yet.

"she advocated a view of copyright that would turn many honest people into thieves." Wishing does not make it so.

 

[sheic99]

Same goes for child molesters.

They don't get an easy time in prison when other inmates find out what they did.
I just don't understand why any guards ever stop the other inmates.

One simple answer. Guards have children or plan to have children at some point. "They see" it as an extended punishment.(What's in quotes is my interpretation of the situation).

No, I meant why do the guards stop inmates giving child molesters a hard time, when everyone knows how much they deserve it.

Because it is there job. At some point they would have to stop it to prevent themselves from being fired.

 

[Fangface74]

Best headline ever.

Needs more ninjas.

They were/are there, their just good....very good.

 

[Andy Chalk]

Second, copyright law allows for copies to be made and distributed as long as no money is made and it is done in person. I can make a copy of any game, movie or album and give it to any person I want to and there is nothing illegal about it.

Just to clarify your stance here, I take it your position on this is that because the act hasn't been declared explicitly illegal, it's therefore legal? Or is there something that actually legalizes making copies of games, movies and music and handing them out to everyone within eyesight?

 

[Twilight_guy]

Hum... it tastes... like iron... irony.
That joke was so horrible that I think I gave myself cancer.

 

[Doug]

...what has piracy got to do with cracking an iPhone so you can run whatever you want on it or use it on any network?

This is low, even for Escapist.

You misunderstand (understandably). When I skimmed, I thought the same thing, that this Crackulous must be something like iPwn/Jailbreak/etc. But, that's not what Crackulous is. Crackulous is for stealing. And it has been stolen. And it is hilarious.

Indeed! It tastes like victory! ...And jam...

 

[sheic99]

Second, copyright law allows for copies to be made and distributed as long as no money is made and it is done in person. I can make a copy of any game, movie or album and give it to any person I want to and there is nothing illegal about it.

Just to clarify your stance here, I take it your position on this is that because the act hasn't been declared explicitly illegal, it's therefore legal? Or is there something that actually legalizes making copies of games, movies and music and handing them out to everyone within eyesight?

I'm not sure of the actual law. But after a trial where the music industries sued an old lady because she sent a copy of the album to her friend through her email. I don't remember whether it was the judge or the record labels trying to save face, but it was stated that if she gave the copy to her in person, then it would have been fine.

 

[Andy Chalk]

I don't want to get all "pics or it didnt happen" here, but I think a bit more evidence than that would be in order. I'm actually not trying to be a dick about it (for once, usually I'm a bit more rabidly anti-piracy) but there's so much confusion and misunderstanding about the actual legalities of copyright, IP theft, etc., that if there is such legislation in place, I'd like the opportunity to actually learn about it.

 

[Anarchemitis]

Irony... Its taste is that of fine wine sometimes...

With a bit of nice cheese and good friends to enjoy it while talking about Piracy.

 

[Jake19539]

A Pirater getting pirated.

I find that hilarious.

EDIT: Yipes it seems there are more then one page, I feel silly for my comment now.