Pendragon9 said:
Treblaine said:
Excellent! You bought the Gamecube and presumably you did not sell your PS2.
Now if you were open minded enough to buy the Gamecube and even enjoy Wind Waker (which I have also played and enjoy just as much) then why are you so inconsiderate of the DS or Xbox 360?
Because none of the games I saw could ever compare to modern classics like Wind Waker or Super Smash Brothers Brawl, or even Timesplitters. I think that was on the XBOX, right? It was a classic shooter with a fun story and quirky paradoxical gameplay. I just don't see anything these days that innovates from it. These days they're doing nothing but spending most of their time revamping Halo and Mario games. What I loved about the companies last generation was how they innovated in at least ten franchises at a time. With Nintendo, for example, if I didn't see anything on the Gamecube at the time, I could pop in the GBA and try out Metroid Fusion, which by the way was a nice return to 2d gaming and I truly don't get why people didn't like it that much. If Halo2 was getting on my nerves, I could simply pop in.... well, another shooter at my pal's house. Not to mention the Gamecube didn't force a Wiimote down my throat, and the old XBOX didn't explode on us 33% of the time.
Well for your consideration:
-Portal: Still Alive (extra content exclusive to 360 that even the PC doesn't get)
-Halo 3 (You apparently played Halo 2, the replay feature in this injects a new level of competition to online multiplayer)
-Condemned: Criminal Origins (new twist on first person survival horror)
-Gears of War 1 & 2: This is NOT a Halo revamp
-GTA4's DLC
-Dead Rising
-Mass Effect, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey
And for Wii:
-The ENTIRE of Virtual Console with scores of classic retro games, many from the most obscure platforms perfectly emulated.
-Metroid Prime 3 + Metroid prime 2 "Wii-release"
-No More Heroes (this is NOT Mario)
-Super Mario Galaxy (OK this IS Mario but just read the reviews, it is the Best Mario in over a decade)
-Super Smash Bros Brawl
-House of the Dead 2/3 (this is a big one for me, love Arcade shooters but hate feeding coins)
-House of the Dead Overkill
PS: you can plug in a regular Gamecube controller for most of these games if that suits you but the aiming advantage is often worth it.
Coming Soon: Monster Hunter 3, Red Steel 2, Fragile.
Research? Was I supposed to Google you or something? How can you possibly expect me to know what consoles you do or do not have?
You could have asked. I would've gladly told you. The consoles I've owned are: Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Gamecube, PLaystation1, Playstation2, Playstation3, Playstation Portable, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, and I think an old Atari at one point, probably at my uncle's house.
If anything, I'm a Nintendo fanboy at heart simply because I own more of their consoles then Sony brand systems. Much like how Ps2 owners switched to the 360 after not enjoying the new changes, I switched to the Ps3 because I couldn't see myself getting into the Wii.
Why don't I have a DS? Because I don't see many games worth my time. It sells like hotcakes covered in drugs, I know. But because it's popular doesn't make it worthwhile to everyone.
Besides, I have a friend who has a DS, and I gladly gave it a shot. I wasn't interested in the new Pokemon or the revamped Mario or the yugioh. Also, I'm getting tired of using a stylus.
You may be using the DS to less than it's full potential, many consider the "thimble Stylus" a cheap but vital accessory for the DS. It fits over the thumb or index like a thimble yet has a hard low friction point like a stylus that means it is as comfortable to use as a PC's trackpad as yet with the precision of the stylus.
I mean if you apparently liked Wind Waker on GC so much why are you not interested in Phantom Hourglass?
It takes two to tango. If you want this "argument" to end the power is all yours. Except I don't think you really want to end this little debate, the post before last was all fightin' words as well as making several big claims that I could hardly leave undisputed.
You may get the last word yet but you are going to have to work a lot harder for it than that.
What does it take to end this argument? I kindly asked for us to agree to disagree, but to no avail.
The point I'm making is that not everyone will agree that the Ps3 has failed this generation, and despite the market not in favor of the Ps3, I don't see dark clouds in the future. Well, I do see one Dark Cloud in the future, if you get my drift.
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Well, we may agree to disagree on the point of PS3's relative success or failure, but at the same time you make many other claims such as that Wii/360/DS are not worth it and the heavy implication that they have failed more than PS3. We have not settled that argument yet as you have still not properly explained your reasoning for why you were so open to GBA, Gamecube and XBox Original yet that same open-ness does not exist now for the Xbox 360 or Nintendo Wii/DS.
We can only agree to disagree when we have nothing left to debate but principal when there are still many claims to be scrutinised. If you are deliberately ignoring other consoles of this generation out of some misguided sense of loyalty then I would like to get to the bottom of that. If not ignoring, you could at least be holding a prejudice against them that prevents you enjoying them. I say that as I used to feel the same way back when I first got my PSP and PS3 but the feeling is transient, you grow out of it eventually.
I also won't 'agree to disagree' over facts. PS2 had 70% of the market in the last generation, now it barely has 20%. In market terms at least that is a failure. And as Wraithgadra said:
WraithGadra said:
A low install base isn't going to affect anyone's enjoyment of any console. What it will affect are the number and quality of games available on that console. I'm not talking opinions here, I'm talking business.
This is born out in 3rd party titles like Splinter Cell Conviction, Section 8, Raven Squad, Huxley as well as third party developers like Valve flat refusing to develop anything for PS3. Partly this is due to the difficulty of developing for PS3 another is how with only 20% of the console market and an even smaller part of the overall market (including PS2 and PC), there is not much incentive to develop for PS3.
Monster Hunter 3 for example was going to be a PS3 exclusive but switched to Wii instead.