OOH! MONSTERHeart, Gildan just pointed out plot holes in you calling them plot holes! Someone better call 9-1-1, 'cause you just got BURNED!Gildan Bladeborn said:
Plot holes in "Avatar"
- Thread starter MONSTERheart
- Start date
Recommended Videos
This is more like it.D4zZ said:
Perhaps it's a wired line? Or they can amplify it enough to get it through the disruption? I mean the big-ass super gunship's missiles still tracked, and its sensors still worked, while the little gunships' trackers don't. Perhaps the larger craft, and buildings have enough power to get the signal through?
Also, glad to see you liked it! It's like Crysis, no? =P
StevieWonderMk2 said:
I still wanna know how he regained consciousness seconds after he put the mask on. I thought it took a few minutes at least. Though if Humanity as a whole had stepped in and helped the Navi it would have felt more like James Cameron was saying "we have a chance to become better" as apposed to "We are all such dicks." Maybe we will get to see future marines versus future mega corporations if Cameron decides there needs to be an AVATAR II. Think of it, the evil corporation decides to re invade. The Navi are getting their asses kicked then BOOM climax as marines and army rangers (or a varied force of UN troops) drop down in Heinlein style power armor with rocket packs on their backs and triple mini guns strapped to their arms. It would make an awesome action sequence. Or there could be a boycott of the companies products back on earth but that wouldn't be as climactic.
I suppose, but my point was that this is a film built on sterotypes.Canid117 said:
The "corporate" stereotype (fuck the world, fuck you too and may I say, this brandy is great), the military stereotype (HOOORAAAH), the scientist stereotype (I know a lot but am innocent), etc.
It just seems like a saturday morning cartoon.
Not really a plot hole but.
I have to wonder why the humans didn't unplug Jake and Dr. Augustine during the fight over the Home-tree immediately after it became clear they weren't helping. Obviously Cameron wanted the characters to be there from a story perspective but it doesn't really make sense for Colonel Badass to not ring up the base have them removed from the avatar pods.
No its the dragon things that connect to only one Na'vi, theoretically one Na'vi could have as many dragon things as he/she wantsGodavari said:
At the start you see some in the tanks they grew in, and its moving slowly, kind of like a baby. i think the idea is that because the avatar has partly the same DNA as the driver, the conciousness of the driver can flip between the avatar and the driver's human body, so when the conciousness is controlling the human body, the avatar is asleep (several times it is shown that when the avatar sleeps, Sully wakes up back in the pod), and when the avatar is being controlled, the human body is asleep, but when the human bady is in the pod, it seems to be with REM sleep. i think one thing the film tried to show was that at first, using the avatar was like a dream for Sully, (the leader of the avatar project tell shim to make the log while it is fresh in his mind), but as time progressed, it was like the time he spent as a human was a dream. this connection is what they were ending with the ritual at the tree of souls, fully transferring the conciousness into the avatar, leaving the human body dead, but more in the way that an amputated limb is dead - the main conciousness is intact and unharmedzeldakong64 said:
Whenever there was grass/trees (which was a lot) all I could think of was the Cryengine. It does seem to appeal to gamers more as well, the gamers in my group loved it and the ones that don't play hated it with a passion.Danny Ocean said:
Didn't get to see it in 3D though because we were late.
As far as plot holes go Avatar was pretty good. There were a few holes in the story but they weren't the kind that you can lose your train of thought in, alla shooter, but they were big enough to give you pause to think about it until the helicopter scene started which really should have been accompanied by flight of the bumblebees. For example it is never explained why unobtainium is so valuable in the first place so I guess you have to fill that blank in for yourself.
Jake fainted. A faint is when not enough oxygen is being transported to the brain. Recovering from a faint doesn't take more than 7 seconds. I'm guessing since the Na'vi administrated oxygen quite fast to Jake he didn't even require 7 seconds.Canid117 said:
The problem was that the unobtanium deposit was right under the home of a Na'vi tribe. In order to get to it, they would have to destroy the big tree which housed all those Na'vi. Do you really think the Na'vi would ever agree to get their home demolished?Canid117 said:
Cameron already said that if Avatar was successful a sequel would be underway. Worldwide, the film grossed an estimated $232,180,000 in its opening weekend with a budget of $237 million so it's pretty obvious an Avatar 2 is will be underway (Giving that this is barely the opening weekend and the movie's already almost surpassed its budget).Canid117 said:
I think the sequel will be a very dark movie. Think about it, the corporation will probably attempt to re-invade Pandora and the Na'vi really are in no shape to challenge that invasion force. Not only that, but most marines will deem the Na'vi beasts. I mean, the people who rebelled against the corporation only did so because they actually spent time with the tribe and learned about their ways, something which that invasion force never did.Canid117 said:
That really isn't a possibility. Why would anyone boycott a company which supplies them with a rare element that is extremely useful? This again hints that the sequel will have a very "dark" tone.Canid117 said:
I think hes asking why the grey haired colonel guy is so sadisticStevieWonderMk2 said:
The best way the movie could have ended in my opinion was the main guys avatar getting paralized that would have been hilarious
If you look at the few Avatars that remained on the planet, Norm was one of them. It was wearing his clothes, and had his face. Maybe they managed to save his Avatar somehow, after all, he only got shot in the shoulder.Simmo8591 said:
Mainly as a plot device, but logically it would be a good idea to have a bayonet because if the enemy creature (Na'vi or otherwise) gets very close, or the fight goes on until they run out of ammo, a knife on the end of your gun is more fun and less risky than punching them.DukeisClay said:
Fridge logic of my own: Why do all of the land creatures (I'm not sure about the flying creatures) have six limbs, and most have a tail, while the Na'vi only have four?
They go back to their dying planet cause they lost their way to live with the planet.StevieWonderMk2 said:
Well you don't need diamonds, gold or platinum to live, but they are a lot more expensive than water.StevieWonderMk2 said:
Unobtanium seems to be a metal that isn't avaible on earth. They are the only one to sell this and therefor rule the price. It's called a monopoly.
And of course greed is the major driving force. Guess why America didn't had universal healthcare till now. It's because America wanted it's people to be healthy. No, wait it's the opposite, FUCKING MONEY!
This is in no relevance to plot holes number one and two but when they actually destroy the hometree, the support columns on one side are broken but the tree falls in the opposite direction... the side that is still supported... pretty much one of the only flaws in the movie. And if you actually stare at the lens of the 3d glasses you can see your eyes... I was not bored enough to figure this out but my absent-minded friend did. Upon this discovery she decided on sharing it with me in one of the most important parts of the movie....
How the hell are these plot holes? These are just things you didn't notice.
No, It's FernGully.Booze Zombie said:
In my studies in neuroscience I've learned that the brainstem (basically the top of the spinal cord) controls all the autonomic nervous system, which is to say things like breathing and, you know, not dying. I imagine that the avatar bodies merely function at brainstem level unless a human pilot is patched in somehow (the movie isn't exactly clear on how that happens, but I'm not going to question the science since the resource everyone's after is called 'unobtainium'). One could remove the entire neocortex from a human and the body would continue to breathe and show reflex actions, but there would be no activity that most of us would consider conscious. In fact, you could entirely remove a person's head, prop the body upright on a treadmill, and the motion of the treadmill would trigger a walking reflex in the legs. The communication for walking, once a person has learned how, is basically a muscle to spinal cord loop. If you want to do something fancy, like dancing or gymnastics then other parts of the brain get involved.zeldakong64 said:
Can't you just enjoy the movie? The first one's not a plot hole and the second one is because that guy punched a hole in the glass. I'm not sure where that guy went, but it doesn't matter. It was still a good movie.