The guys in Wolfram HQ made a Pokemon database? On top of everything else in Wolfram|Alpha?
Do they even know how to stop?
Do they even know how to stop?
Pokemon Research Proves Squirtle To Be Best Starter
- Thread starter Cognimancer
- Start date
Charmander is the best starter. If you can beat the first two gyms with a Charmander, you've proven that you can finish the game. I prefer my difficulty up front because it forces you to learn fundamental lessons early on and not to simply rely on a single Pokemon to do your dirty work.
Of course Squirtle is the best starter- Neither Venusaur or Charizard have motherfucking cannons on their backs. Cannons>Wings>Flowers. Simple science right there.
Swampert 4 life, homie!Innegativeion said:Doesn't matter who you are, where you're from, or where you've been...
Swampert's got your number.
OT: ...and that's why I always go Water in terms of starters... That and Swampert... because Swampert... Enough said...
Though, now that I think about it, they REALLY need to balance out their region gyms to prevent these kinds of studies from happening... But, if you do do that... it takes out some of the fun of these age-long debates...
Hmmmm...
In Gen 1 there were like... 3 dragon types... and they were all from the same branch.kurokotetsu said:
That's why the "Dragon type" elite 4 used a Gyarados, Aerodactyl, Two Dragonairs, and a Dragonite... because fighting 4 dragonairs and a dragonite wouldn't really be all that interesting.
This speaks volumes, I have nothing more to say...Trivea said:
On a different note... what are they going to call the megastone for Dragonite? Dragoniteite?
Given how you can power through Kanto League with just Blastiose, Raichu, and Nindoking he is the best starter for that region.
Nah, man. My Bulbasaur crushes all!
Super effective against the two first gym bosses(don't remember how grass does against electric) and that's where it's the most important imo. Can't be arsed leveling other Pokemon that early just to beat Misty.
Super effective against the two first gym bosses(don't remember how grass does against electric) and that's where it's the most important imo. Can't be arsed leveling other Pokemon that early just to beat Misty.
I said naturally. Naturally as in "No TMs." any smart water user hooks them with an ice move but I meant naturally.Yopaz said:Except every water starter that can learn ice beam or blizzard... which is all of them...Terminate421 said:Everyone knows Piplup is the best starter because he evolves into Empoleon
and Empoleon is best:
Also Piplup can learn peck. He is the only water starter naturally capable of having a move super effective against grass types.
Bulbasaur is clearly the best to start with since it can take on the first 3 gyms with ease while Charmander is at a huge disadvantage in the first gym and at a quite big disadvantage on the second (also at a disadvantage in the third if it evolves to Charizard before it reaches that place), but he might be on to something with Squirtle.
However, combining Sunny Day and Solarbeam makes Venasaur a really powerful Pokemon.
I think I love you.CrazyCapnMorgan said:OK. The only Water type starter I give a Rattata's poot about is Empoleon. FOR IT IS THE ONLY RIGHT WATER STARTER POKEMON IN THE UNIVERSE! [sub]ahem...[/sub]
Let's look at the facts, shall we?
1) Empoleon is a Water/Steel type pokemon, and is the ONLY known Water/Steel type pokemon in existence. Even legendaries do not have this typing!
2) Though Empoleon is weak to Electric, Fighting and Ground type moves, its moveset covers ALL of its weaknesses. It naturally learns Drill Peck and therefore covers Fighting and Grass types, it can learn Ice Beam (which gives the middle finger to Torterra) and finally, it can learn Earthquake and therefore covers Electric types.
3) Empoleon has the highest number of resistances among starter pokemon.
4) It has the highest base Special Attack of all starter pokemon.
5) Of all HMs, the only one it cannot learn is Fly. (Friggin penguins...)
6) For those of you wishing to argue Swampert, I got two words for ya: Grass Knot. Empoleon can also learn this move.
7) Is named after Napoleon Bonaparte, one of history's most famed conquerors, as is the same height as its namesake.
He is the best starter.
I'm calling BS on science... anyway, I ALWAYS pick the Fire starters tho' Bulbasaur is the coolest grass type IMOCognimancer said:
On my Steel-type "Knight" themed team, he holds a special place in my heart. He also represents the greaves and boots, because he cannot fly.Terminate421 said:I think I love you.CrazyCapnMorgan said:OK. The only Water type starter I give a Rattata's poot about is Empoleon. FOR IT IS THE ONLY RIGHT WATER STARTER POKEMON IN THE UNIVERSE! [sub]ahem...[/sub]
Let's look at the facts, shall we?
1) Empoleon is a Water/Steel type pokemon, and is the ONLY known Water/Steel type pokemon in existence. Even legendaries do not have this typing!
2) Though Empoleon is weak to Electric, Fighting and Ground type moves, its moveset covers ALL of its weaknesses. It naturally learns Drill Peck and therefore covers Fighting and Grass types, it can learn Ice Beam (which gives the middle finger to Torterra) and finally, it can learn Earthquake and therefore covers Electric types.
3) Empoleon has the highest number of resistances among starter pokemon.
4) It has the highest base Special Attack of all starter pokemon.
5) Of all HMs, the only one it cannot learn is Fly. (Friggin penguins...)
6) For those of you wishing to argue Swampert, I got two words for ya: Grass Knot. Empoleon can also learn this move.
7) Is named after Napoleon Bonaparte, one of history's most famed conquerors, as is the same height as its namesake.
He is the best starter.
Thankfully for Charizard his speed is much faster than Torterra. Quick little fire blast and it's good night, thanks for coming.BanicRhys said:
Torterra doesn't even need to use a STAB move when he can learn Stone Edge.
Not that there are many Charizards to squish in Gen 4 PvE anyway.
I knew that I was right for picking Squirtle!
Now I need to run before I get caught by the inevitable shitstorm.
Now I need to run before I get caught by the inevitable shitstorm.
Which is why you switch to something that counters Charizard just like Charizard counters slow, physical tanks.bug_of_war said:
But... we're starting to stray dangerously close depths of hypothetical Pokemon battling, and that's a fight that nobody's going to win.
Someone's gotta take a stand. Someone's gotta say no and refuse to hypothetically fight.
Just like a grass type user, never able to finish a fight.BanicRhys said:
heh, yep we'll stop here
Whoops, my bad. Yeah none of the others actually learn ice moves by themselves so you're right. Sorry about that.Terminate421 said:I said naturally. Naturally as in "No TMs." any smart water user hooks them with an ice move but I meant naturally.Yopaz said:Except every water starter that can learn ice beam or blizzard... which is all of them...Terminate421 said:Everyone knows Piplup is the best starter because he evolves into Empoleon
and Empoleon is best:
Also Piplup can learn peck. He is the only water starter naturally capable of having a move super effective against grass types.
Bulbasaur is clearly the best to start with since it can take on the first 3 gyms with ease while Charmander is at a huge disadvantage in the first gym and at a quite big disadvantage on the second (also at a disadvantage in the third if it evolves to Charizard before it reaches that place), but he might be on to something with Squirtle.
However, combining Sunny Day and Solarbeam makes Venasaur a really powerful Pokemon.