Police pepper spray 8 year old

[Catalyst6]

Why not? It's not a lethal weapon, after all, just painful.

And really, the only excuse that the mother could come up with was that they could have tried to talk him down? This wasn't a action film, with the cops diving through the door spraying bullets and pepper spray. I'm betting that since the kid was, y'know, *psychotic* they figured that the spray would be the most effective way of defusing the situation.

And what do you know? It was!

 

[Wayneguard]

Having not endeavored to find any facts about the situation whatsoever, I am going to add my opinion to the fray - cops: 1 child: 0. Justified or not, that's fucking hysterical.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Ah, my cousin did something like this recently. And they had to call the police to restrain him.
Depression, bi-polar, OCD and other mental issues plauge my family. In any case, when someone is in full meltdown, they aren't going to listen to logic. I think the police were justified.

 

[Nouw]

Very justified, if the kid had a weapon which could have been easily used to seriously injure someone you have to use weapons like tazers and in this case pepper spray.

It is the lowest of the low for handling situations like these.

 

[Omnific One]

It was totally justified. No question.

I don't care if your 8 or 80. Assault is still a crime.

 

[bdcjacko]

You know the fact that they had to spray him twice says how much of a rage the litte brat was in. 10 minutes to talk him down is 10 minutes too long.

 

[Wintermoot]

if it was like the police said it happened it was justified. But they could have just jumped him instead of peperspraying him.

 

[Saelune]

I was against the cops...until the kid seemed so non chalant about the "I wanted to use sharp objects if they came out on them"

If it was just chairs and sticks, then yes, too much but if that dog ever dies mysteriously, I would suspect the kid.

 

[Kakashi on crack]

If you've lived here in Colorado, you'd know three things.

1. Parents don't dicipline their kids enough

2. We're f***ing insane, especially the younger kids

3. Parents blame everything on the government

Could the police have abused their powers? Totally, but in my mind at least, they were completely justified. Schools in that area are known to have a lot of abusive kids, so if anything, we should be surprised that there aren't more shootings and deaths.

 

[Jursa]

Damn child pampering... If I had ever done anything similar and gotten pepper sprayed I would have also had hell back in home from my parents. I can't believe this mother is actually reinforcing this. If there is nothing mentally wrong with him put a cannibal mask on him and lock him away. Just because someone "can't control" themselves doesn't make their crimes nullified.

 

[GodofCider]

Hmm....

Totally justified... and it's just CS....Even allergic reactions to the stuff aren't life-threatening.

I think it's excessive force. Pepper spray can be leathal if the person has an allergic reaction to it.

Personally, I agree with loc978 here, on both points.

 

[Milo Windby]

See 8 year old having a hissy fit, what do? Clearly not just over power the brat and hold him in place until he calms down... no lets just be lil sissys about it and use pepper spray.

 

[Bandit747]

I would have tased the whacked out little brat

 

[Vorrent]

I think it was kind of excessive, a police officer should be able to handle an out of control 8 year old without resorting to pepper spray. I wasn't there though, maybe it was completely necessary to protect the kid from hurting himself.

 

[Bags159]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42449949/ns/today-today_people/

What do you guys think? Was this justified or totally not needed?

FUCK NO!!! HE'S EIGHT! You grab him and hold him down, you don't hit him with pepper spray. Why not use a taser or rubber bullets? Jesus, is it that hard to restrain an eight year old. I've held down kids a lot older than eight who tried to hit me with a stick. It's not even fucking hard. these officers should be jailed, after being pepper sprayed themselves. I mean, they did it to the poor kid twice. Once I could maybe except as just bad decision making and stupidity, but twice is either negligence or cruelty and absolutely unacceptable.

Wait, pepper spray hurts but tasers don't? So do people just lie about tasers then?

Completely justified IMO. Teachers can't so much touch students without a law suit any more, and I doubt there was a safer way for the police to subdue him. (Yeah, a 200 pound cop pinning down an 80 pound kid sounds really safe)

I don't understand why when little shits like this act out everyone rushes to their defense. When I was 8 I knew right from wrong. I could never have dreamed of doing something like he did.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Oh, for fuck's sake. Even the KID said he deserved it a little. If even an 8-year old with anger problems thinks he deserved to be pepper sprayed, is there really any question about this?

Besides, he's clearly over it. He wasn't traumatized or anything; he's fine.


I mean, the only reason to worry about an 8-year old being pepper-sprayed is that he might be, you know, scared or something. But he clearly isn't. Like I said, he's fine.

 

[duchaked]

I don't think it's right for an 8 year old to get pepper sprayed either...

well, until one just happens to go completely crazy with a stick =.=

 

[Lilani]

A pair of teachers trained to deal with troubled students overpowered by an 8 year old?

I call shenanigans.

You'd be surprised. Before the start of this past school year, the higher-up faculty of the elementary school my mother works at underwent restraint training--they learned how to properly and safely restrain children who are at risk of hurting themselves or others. It's an elementary[/o] school. The students are 3 and 4 at the youngest, and 9 and 10 at the very oldest. Yet within the first couple of weeks of the school year, the principle had to restrain a kindergartner who was completely out of control.

That restraint training is very new to our school system. So if the teachers in this situation weren't trained for it, I don't find it at all surprising they weren't able to succeed. They didn't know how/where they could grab and how hard. They weren't just thinking about what the kid was doing, they also had to be aware of what their actions could result in. Any bruises or accidental "bad touches" and their careers and possibly criminal records would be screwed up for life, given their school doesn't just go bankrupt from a lawsuit.

 

[duchaked]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42449949/ns/today-today_people/

What do you guys think? Was this justified or totally not needed?

FUCK NO!!! HE'S EIGHT! You grab him and hold him down, you don't hit him with pepper spray. Why not use a taser or rubber bullets? Jesus, is it that hard to restrain an eight year old. I've held down kids a lot older than eight who tried to hit me with a stick. It's not even fucking hard. these officers should be jailed, after being pepper sprayed themselves. I mean, they did it to the poor kid twice. Once I could maybe except as just bad decision making and stupidity, but twice is either negligence or cruelty and absolutely unacceptable.

Wait, pepper spray hurts but tasers don't? So do people just lie about tasers then?

Completely justified IMO.

lol yeah I was gonna say...pretty sure a taser and rubber bullets hurt pretty darn bad too

just all in a different kind of way as far as the pain goes

 

[chainer1216]

in an interview the kid said he was looking for somthing sharp to stab them with.

pepper spray? totally justified.

besides, the kid himself said he probably deserved it.