[Politics] Trump, LBGT+ Ally
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Trump has nothing to do with a trans person doing fucked up shit. Epstein has nothing to do with a trans person doing fucked up shit. If the person doing fucked up shit wasn't a trans person, you wouldn't even care about this conversation. Where in the fuck, literally from what sources of information, are people twisting this story to indicate they're trying to excuse their bigotry with this story.
More importantly, why would bother responding to a person who isn't even talking about blaming trans people with this particular tyraid as if they even have the context for anything you're talking about or would even agree with it.
This entire thread turned into wacky shenanigans for no apparent reason.
Stop defending pedophilia. Defending pedophilia is wrong.
More importantly, why would bother responding to a person who isn't even talking about blaming trans people with this particular tyraid as if they even have the context for anything you're talking about or would even agree with it.
This entire thread turned into wacky shenanigans for no apparent reason.
Stop defending pedophilia. Defending pedophilia is wrong.
If that person wasn't trans, lots of anti-LGBT people wouldn't care about them doing fucked up shit.Shadowstar38 said:
I am not defending pedophilia, I am saying all of them are bad, regardless of their gender or orientation, and that includes straight cisgendered men like Epstein and Trump.
It basically always loops back into this non-sequitur doesn't it? Like, for fucks sake, it isn't like anyone in this thread was trying to defend other alleged predators so, you still brought this shit up for no reason.Saelune said:
Yaniv by all accounts is a shit person. Period. There's no reason to complicate this.
Technically I am bring us back on topic. This topic is literally about Trump and LGBT people.Shadowstar38 said:
I am not the one who brought Yaniv up. If you want to complain, maybe take it out on that person. But no, you just want to be mad at -me- specifically.
No. That's you assuming my motives again and...yeah no. Let's not do that song and dance again.Saelune said:
No one ever said any of that dude! Literally no one in this thread, nor the other one, ever said "Damn Jessica, I knew Trans were just pedophiles this whole time" Literally what I, others, and Blair White have been saying is Jessica Yaniv may or may not be trans(White says she is not, and I have no gauge one way or the other) and is using the trans identity as a literal justification for their predatory behavior. Yaniv is on record saying the reason she wants to see children naked and help little girls with tampons and pads is because she's trans, and that's what trans means.Saelune said:
And from the few videos of Blair white I watched she specifically says no, that is not what trans means, Yaniv is a "Period fetishist and is targeting children under the guise of being a transgender activist"
Look you can hate Blair for her politics, and I certainly don't agree with her support of Trump, and I will admit I legitimately didn't know she did 'cause I've only seen her Yaniv videos, but that is not an excuse to protect someone who admitted to the Canadian authorities there is child pron on her computer.
No one is mad at you. Literally. We are just pointing out this singular individual is a bad apple, making Trans people look bad, and Trump is being a major illegal asshole with his views.
No one is mad at you. I am just pointing out this singular individual (Blair White) is a bad apple, trying to make Trans people look bad, and Trump is being a major illegal asshole with his views.Silentpony said:
You got mad at me because I condemned Blair White, but you took it personally for whatever reason.
She's exhibiting classic gaslighting behavior dude. Probably best to quit while you're ahead. I myself regret bothering to respond at this point.Silentpony said:
So...I'm bigoted because I don't want adults to see children naked? Like I'm legitimately struggling here, bigoted means I'm against something that is considered good and I'm against adults having un-observed access to naked children...so that's a bad thing? That's the hill you're on?evilthecat said:
Just straight up, who do you think is a worse person, Blair White, a confirmed Trump support, or Jessica Yaniv an alleged, and legally investigated child at best predator, and worst molester/rapist?Saelune said:
'cause you seem to be of the bent that because Blair White supports Trump, nothing she says has value, ie Yaniv allegedly wants naked children, therefore Yaniv doesn't want naked children, all under the umbrella that Trump lied about his LGBTQ+XYZ support.
100% accurate according to my personal assessment. But you're free to disagreeSaelune said:
People are really into taking their own personal interpretations of situations, claiming them to be objectively correct and morally superior, and shaming everyone who steps out of line. Can we not?evilthecat said:
Shadowstar38 said:
Let me repost this, the response that upset Silentpony so much. The one where he claims I blamed him. Where does it say I blame him? Not even lying, I intentionally reworded part of it so as to not sound like I was blaming them, cause I wasn't.Saelune said:
Let me try and put this in terms you might understand.Silentpony said:
If someone goes in and accuses someone of being a sexual deviant who is pretending to be trans as a cover for their antisocial behaviour, it helps if they have not already made those same allegations against, for example, lesbian transwomen in happy, consensual relationships with women their own age.
When the same allegations are being made irrespective of whether there actually is anything seriously wrong with someone's behaviour, then an equivalence is being drawn between genuinely predatory and antisocial behaviour and.. you know.. just being the wrong kind of person.
Blair White has made her position clear. She does not like trans people. She has both explicitly stated that she does not like trans people, and has built a career on attacking other trans people. The fact that she has chosen in this instance to focus on someone who may be a genuine sexual predator is irrelevant, because that's not why she's here. It's not why her audience is here. This whole thing is just a continuation of what she has always done.
What Saelune and I can see which you clearly can't is that it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether we are actually bad people or not. To Blair White and her audience, we are all bad people. She could point a camera at any one of us, put some shitty clickbait title like "TRIGGERED TR*NNY FAIL" (obviously, without the slur asterisked) like she usually does, and we would get the exact same treatment.[footnote]I mean, I wouldn't even get that because I'm non-binary so I'd probably just be a "male feminist" or something[/footnote] That is how bigots operate. They do not care who we are, or what we have or have not done wrong because we are not individuals to them, we are interchangeable slurs. Our mere existence is already deserving of exposure, shaming and abuse, as Blair White has shown many times. We don't have to be sexual predators, we just have to be ourselves.
No that's the problem here. I posted that my understanding of Blair White was she was anti trans-predators. And your response was that White is pro-Trump...as if that mattered to the conversation at hand, meaning opinions = -opinionsSaelune said:
From what I've gathered your opinion is that Blair White is 100% evil for being pro-Trump, therefore anything she is against is automatically right. Blair White is against full grown adults interacting with naked children. Therefore adults interacting with naked children is okay by your opinion. That you feel, as a trans individual, to come to the either defense of a alleged child molester, or the attack of a Trump supporter, purely based on their political view? Implying that if either view was reversed, you would support it.
That if Jessica Yaniv hurt children but hated Trump you'd be okay with it, and it Blair White hated Trump but loved child pain you'd be against her