[Politics] Yang Gang 2020

[Marik2]

I'm here to shill for Andrew Yang, because he is basically the only guy who understands that we are in the middle of an economic transition to automation and we will have to use universal base income to help with the transition. He is the only candidate with the most policy proposals [https://www.yang2020.com/policies/] and is the perfect outsider to address so many things wrong with the current system. I know the DNC will undermine him, but it is good that someone is finally making UBI a mainstream murican discussion.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

On the one hand, reasoned political discussion on the nature of UBI and how effective it actually is in buoying the poor.

On the other hand, NEETbux!

 

[PsychedelicDiamond]

Universal Basic Income only makes sense when there are also stricter price controls stopping companies from just raising prices in accordance to it. Which would only work long term if one was to nationalize large parts of the private sector. Which, you know, I'd absolutely support but I don't find it very likely.

 

[Saelune]

I don't trust how popular he is with Libertarians.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

He has a lot of great Ideas, however, supporting him is a futile effort as he won't be elected. Outside of him being too much of an outlier at this point, his support of UBI will prevent him from being elected. I do hope that he is able to get some of his ideas onto the democratic platform, that is likely the best we can expect from his run at this point. I am not saying to not support him, just be prepared to throw those votes behind another candidate before it is all said and done.

 

[Hawki]

UBI is a nice idea, but from what I can tell, it's all that Yang's riding on.

Not that I can even vote of course, but far as I'm concerned, my hopes for the US 2020 elections are:

1) Get rid of Trump

2) Do something about the climate crisis

Pick your issues for third, fourth, and beyond place, but with Yang having a defeatist attitude towards point 2, I'd generally favour other candidates (though who I'm not sure, and again, doesn't technically matter for me).

 

[Pseudonym]

He's an interesting candidate, definitely serious in his thinking about policy. UBI is an interesting idea and would definitely provide a lot of people with a lot more easily comprehensible security which is both materially and psychologically good.

Though I don't like the fact that his UBI is supposed to replace other elements of the social safety net. I don't think you can live in the US from 1000 dollars a month and if you are disabled or need food stamps, taking that away for a 1000 dollars a month seems like you'd still not have enough. In addition, part of the appeal of UBI is that it is unconditional, and this one apparently kind of isn't. Another major downside of UBI is that it addresses the worst excesses of inequality but not its causes. Warren's and Sanders' plans to increase the minimum wage, have a wealth tax and institute some form of codeterminacy to give workers more power over the place they work seem like they would better address the causes of the problems in the US. As for the robots, people have been speaking about automation destroying jobs since the industrial revolution and it doesn't seem to have happened so far. Keynes thought we'd be working 15 hour weeks by now.

I'm being a bit negative now, but all in all he is certainly a very good candidate. He won't win, but I applaud his efforts to push some of his specific policies into the mainstream. This might lay the groundwork for more serious discussion about UBI and the like in the future.

 

[Marik2]

I don't trust how popular he is with Libertarians.

He has a lot of ex trump voters as well.

 

[McElroy]

Seems a bit one-sided. Who is the ying to his yang?

 

[Saelune]

I don't trust how popular he is with Libertarians.

He has a lot of ex trump voters as well.

That's what I said.

 

[Worgen]

I like Yang but he has no chance. Even if he did somehow manage to find a genie and get the nomination, I don't think he would win. He comes off as timid and I think trump would just roll over and meme against him too easily. I think Yang would make a good VP or secretary of state.

Realistically we are going to be stuck with Biden. I would really prefer Warren though or I suppose Burnie.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

I like Yang but he has no chance. Even if he did somehow manage to find a genie and get the nomination, I don't think he would win. He comes off as timid and I think trump would just roll over and meme against him too easily. I think Yang would make a good VP or secretary of state.

Realistically we are going to be stuck with Biden. I would really prefer Warren though or I suppose Burnie.

I dunno every time Biden opens his mouth he loses support. Hopefully he will lose enough support he eventually drops out. I am hoping Warren keeps up her momentum. Biden can't seem to get over his "foot in mouth" issues.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/joe-biden-fundraising-2020-1389857
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-tells-minority-voters-in-iowa-that-poor-kids-are-just-as-bright-as-white-kids/2019/08/09/4926be02-ba8e-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/joe-biden-gaffe-vice-president-parkland-shooting.html
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-gaffes-quotes-2020-election-1323905
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/26/biden-2020-fundraiser-switches-to-kamala-harris.html

It would have been better if Biden had never run tbh.

 

[Worgen]

I like Yang but he has no chance. Even if he did somehow manage to find a genie and get the nomination, I don't think he would win. He comes off as timid and I think trump would just roll over and meme against him too easily. I think Yang would make a good VP or secretary of state.

Realistically we are going to be stuck with Biden. I would really prefer Warren though or I suppose Burnie.

I dunno every time Biden opens his mouth he loses support. Hopefully he will lose enough support he eventually drops out. I am hoping Warren keeps up her momentum. Biden can't seem to get over his "foot in mouth" issues.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/joe-biden-fundraising-2020-1389857
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-tells-minority-voters-in-iowa-that-poor-kids-are-just-as-bright-as-white-kids/2019/08/09/4926be02-ba8e-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/joe-biden-gaffe-vice-president-parkland-shooting.html
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-gaffes-quotes-2020-election-1323905
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/26/biden-2020-fundraiser-switches-to-kamala-harris.html

It would have been better if Biden had never run tbh.

I would have prefered if he didn't run either, I mean the guy is like 76, decent chance that even if he won he wouldn't survive the full term. Plus, hes a pretty moderate candidate, I would much rather have a more progressive one, even if their economic policy is kinda ehh. But, I have doubts as to if he would fail enough to lose out on the nomination, he did bad during the first debate but from everything I hear, he did way better in the second.

 

[Saelune]

I like Yang but he has no chance. Even if he did somehow manage to find a genie and get the nomination, I don't think he would win. He comes off as timid and I think trump would just roll over and meme against him too easily. I think Yang would make a good VP or secretary of state.

Realistically we are going to be stuck with Biden. I would really prefer Warren though or I suppose Burnie.

I dunno every time Biden opens his mouth he loses support. Hopefully he will lose enough support he eventually drops out. I am hoping Warren keeps up her momentum. Biden can't seem to get over his "foot in mouth" issues.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/joe-biden-fundraising-2020-1389857
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-tells-minority-voters-in-iowa-that-poor-kids-are-just-as-bright-as-white-kids/2019/08/09/4926be02-ba8e-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/joe-biden-gaffe-vice-president-parkland-shooting.html
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-gaffes-quotes-2020-election-1323905
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/26/biden-2020-fundraiser-switches-to-kamala-harris.html

It would have been better if Biden had never run tbh.

I would have prefered if he didn't run either, I mean the guy is like 76, decent chance that even if he won he wouldn't survive the full term. Plus, hes a pretty moderate candidate, I would much rather have a more progressive one, even if their economic policy is kinda ehh. But, I have doubts as to if he would fail enough to lose out on the nomination, he did bad during the first debate but from everything I hear, he did way better in the second.

I am hoping for another Obama election with Warren, as in, I want Warren. I remember thinking 'Who the fuck is Obama? He has no chance', but then he won.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

I like Yang but he has no chance. Even if he did somehow manage to find a genie and get the nomination, I don't think he would win. He comes off as timid and I think trump would just roll over and meme against him too easily. I think Yang would make a good VP or secretary of state.

Realistically we are going to be stuck with Biden. I would really prefer Warren though or I suppose Burnie.

I dunno every time Biden opens his mouth he loses support. Hopefully he will lose enough support he eventually drops out. I am hoping Warren keeps up her momentum. Biden can't seem to get over his "foot in mouth" issues.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/28/joe-biden-fundraising-2020-1389857
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-tells-minority-voters-in-iowa-that-poor-kids-are-just-as-bright-as-white-kids/2019/08/09/4926be02-ba8e-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/joe-biden-gaffe-vice-president-parkland-shooting.html
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-gaffes-quotes-2020-election-1323905
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/26/biden-2020-fundraiser-switches-to-kamala-harris.html

It would have been better if Biden had never run tbh.

I would have prefered if he didn't run either, I mean the guy is like 76, decent chance that even if he won he wouldn't survive the full term. Plus, hes a pretty moderate candidate, I would much rather have a more progressive one, even if their economic policy is kinda ehh. But, I have doubts as to if he would fail enough to lose out on the nomination, he did bad during the first debate but from everything I hear, he did way better in the second.

I am hoping for another Obama election with Warren, as in, I want Warren. I remember thinking 'Who the fuck is Obama? He has no chance', but then he won.

I have been following Warren for a good number of years now, that was why I had wanted her, rather than Hillary to run in 2016.

 

[Leg End]

I don't trust how popular he is with Libertarians.

He's popular with Libertarians?

 

[Marik2]

I don't trust how popular he is with Libertarians.

He's popular with Libertarians?

And ex trump supporters.

 

[Shadowstar38]

I don't trust how popular he is with Libertarians.

He's popular with Libertarians?

And ex trump supporters.

Having looked through his policies on the site I'm struggling to see what these groups are getting pulled in by.

 

[Marik2]

I don't trust how popular he is with Libertarians.

He's popular with Libertarians?

And ex trump supporters.

Having looked through his policies on the site I'm struggling to see what these groups are getting pulled in by.

Money, and that about a good chunk of Donald supporters are starting to change their view now that they saw he's not a good president.

 

[Leg End]

And ex trump supporters.

Do you have a source or... where are you seeing he's popular with Libertarians? Ex-Trump, I can get. But Libertarians?